No Irish, No Yanks, No Clogs - FIFA World Cup 2018

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I'd argue that football has a pretty huge impact on the standing of the UK (or England at least). The Premiership is one of the few things that people round the world actually like about this country.

― Matt DC, Thursday, July 5, 2018 11:57 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Most def. Success or otherwise of England team has little to do with that though?

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:07 (five years ago) link

hoo is clive and wat is nick b's reference pls

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:08 (five years ago) link

oh wait, clive tyldesley? doh

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:08 (five years ago) link

nick's reference is a david squire cartoon

imago, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:13 (five years ago) link

*squires

Images from England v Norway set to the lyrics of 'The Dead Flag Blues' by Godspeed You! Black Emperor: pic.twitter.com/8rcbkP1lia

— David Squires (@squires_david) September 6, 2014

imago, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:15 (five years ago) link

haha, I hadn’t actually seen that before

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:17 (five years ago) link

ilx has mocked squires for stuff like that iirc but some of his stuff is p good and ilx-y. narcissism of not having a guardian deal

imago, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:18 (five years ago) link

phitch is right: patriotism is clearly unnecessary to get behind the team

ogmor, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:21 (five years ago) link

squires did a lovely shawshank wenger one

ogmor, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:21 (five years ago) link

now quite interested to remember which dweebs hated on him

imago, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:27 (five years ago) link

I didn't know that cartoon (just knew the GY!BE lyric) but that's ace

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:29 (five years ago) link

TWP panel is amazing

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:30 (five years ago) link

now quite interested to remember which dweebs hated on him

― imago, Thursday, July 5, 2018 11:27 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

turns out it was nakhers and myself

imago, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:36 (five years ago) link

-_-

imago, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:36 (five years ago) link

I'm going to go out on a limb and say his output might be varied enough to merit a few different reactions

ogmor, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:38 (five years ago) link

So we had a sweepstakes in the work, £5 a pop, 32 teams picked, sealed in envelopes till the quarter finals. The envelopes have just been opened... guess who I got? Here's a clue, they're still in it.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:41 (five years ago) link

sealed in envelopes i can understand, but until the quarter finals?

koogs, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:45 (five years ago) link

(here everybody was saying which team they had before all the tickets had been picked, which just seems wrong)

koogs, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:47 (five years ago) link

Good idea waiting till the QFs I think. Everyone is excitedly going round, asking who got Brazil, who got France, who got er ... England.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:51 (five years ago) link

would be great if tom now had to support england tbh

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:55 (five years ago) link

Wouldn't it just...

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:56 (five years ago) link

Tom's attempts to jinx already have him sounding like a belligerently overconfident hackett shirt inglan guy tbh

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link

lol tom. my advice - try and sell your team for a tenner, if only to keep your dignity intact

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link

lol i actually kind of agree with phitch?

viz
1: supporting ENG is in no way an index of patriotism (as an internationalist i naturally think patriotism is bad not good,but that doesn't invalidate his argument)
2: the nation's "standing, liberty, wealth and security" are p much unrelated (the premiership is much more important to standing and wealth, the latter being the only really daft bit of his claim re the WC -- and even then it's surely largely an indirect effect)
3: "covertly violent game full of cheating, ham acting and sneaky assaults" how is this inaccurate? it just made me think THIS IS WHY I WATCH IT, I LOVE THAT STUFF

obviously he's a hateful weirdo who shd go away, but it's not as if he has a high opinion of the politicians who currently "represent" the country either, he utterly despises them and hates the direction everything is headed

mark s, Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:11 (five years ago) link

There's been no violence at this World Cup - either off the pitch (thankfully) or on the pitch (sadly).

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:14 (five years ago) link

Imago if you could get Nilmar back for the QFs it would be appreciated, I'd be interested in his take on this England generation.

(On that note I looked up the 2012 squad yesterday and dear oh dear)

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:15 (five years ago) link

The papers always babble about an economic boost as a result of England doing well in a tournament. Last ten years, do that math.

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:15 (five years ago) link

There's been no violence at this World Cup

the tournament is ruined

mark s, Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:17 (five years ago) link

Also I'd guess that England are reasonably well-supported and followed in quite a few countries that never get near the World Cup? I'd guess that eg Brazil are way in front (and god knows why you'd choose England in that scenario) but the Premiership factor must come into it.

The England team in general and England fans in particular are almost certainly detrimental to the standing of the UK.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:18 (five years ago) link

Not convinced that Tuesday's result did much for productivity yesterday.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:19 (five years ago) link

English football teams and footballers were popular abroad, long before the EPL, of course.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:23 (five years ago) link

the difference between this england side and all predecessors is that kieran trippier vaped before the penalty shootout pic.twitter.com/EPKrg2pJsb

— hua hsu (@huahsu) July 5, 2018

, Thursday, 5 July 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link

(^^^hua hsu the only person as far as i know who's written for the wire AND the new yorker)

mark s, Thursday, 5 July 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link

that's our boy

ogmor, Thursday, 5 July 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link

Aaron Mooy is another confirmed World Cup vaper, not that it did the Aussies any bloody good!

calzino, Thursday, 5 July 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

One of those working class lads whose culture Corbynistas refuse to acknowledge or understand...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/05/son-former-royal-aide-forced-apologise-england-graffiti-moscow/

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 July 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

my local district league club is the type of thing Stuart Maconie would probably think is grass roots and working class because the mostly m/c gammon that frequent it's sports bar swear and have regional accents, tribal tats etc, after they have parked their £20 g cars, working class culture my arse!

calzino, Thursday, 5 July 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link

lol £20 k cars, obv a £20 would be very w/c!

calzino, Thursday, 5 July 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link

Rufus Hall, 20, a business management student, was on his way back to Britain last night after being fined £35 by a Moscow court for scrawling ‘England’ in red face paint over the statue in honour of a dead Russian footballer.

Hall appeared in a video apologising for the graffiti.

“I love this country for the two days I've been here,” said Hall, standing in what appeared to be a stadium corridor, while still wearing his England shirt and with a flag tied around his head. “I would never disrespect the country. I respect the history and had I known this would offend people I would never have done it, and I wholly apologise.”

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 5 July 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link

poll. options:

rufus
business management student
£35
with a flag tied around his head
had I known this would offend people I would never have done it

imago, Thursday, 5 July 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link

+ I wholly apologise

imago, Thursday, 5 July 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link

remember ppl complaining about our discussing a belgian footballers performance in a game in this world cup itt

now its just ppl rightly unbothered about uk politics thread doing it here instead

it's fifa's fault for not organising games on all days

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 5 July 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link

if i had my way this would be the only thread on ilx

ogmor, Thursday, 5 July 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

ever

Ludo, Thursday, 5 July 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link

is marouane fellaini doing enough to promote england and english values during this world cup?

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 5 July 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

Today I discovered that Fellaini has an identical twin and I just don't know what to do with this piece of knowledge.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 July 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

does he play football? even if he doesn't, you could still throw him on in the 80th minute to stand in the box if you need a plan B. for a fraction of the price i'd imagine.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 5 July 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

Maybe he sends him to matches in his place on occasion

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 5 July 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

Doppelgängly.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 5 July 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link


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