WestWorld: ...Where nothing can possibly go worng!

I wanna live in that

I'm not sure I'm sold Pinkman, but I really liked that S3 trailer. Visually it looked incredible.

he was good in that Hulu cult tv show, The Path

which is saying something bc The Path turned into hot garbage almost immediately

Re-reading my own posts to prepare for S3. Clearly I am a host

Just rewatched final 2 episodes of S2 and still had to read some recaps to work out what was going on

I'm more enthusiastic about the show's return than I'd normally be, and I think I figured it out:

I want to be murdered by hot robots in 2020

definitely beats the suddenly-plausible alternatives

I hate this show but obv will watch it all.

no spoilers but what I want to know rn is why are they in Tony Stark’s house and when will he show up?

no fucking clue what was going on last night.

is this one of those things where one of the Nolans makes a plot that is so straightforward that it seems puzzling? because... there wasn't that much going on

I liked it, agree that the plot was fairly straightforward, but did like all the details they put into the future setting, such as the Über app for career criminals. Also, while it was easy to guess that Aaron Paul's character wasn't really talking to his friend, and that the friend was dead, I thought he was merely heading his voice in his head, so the eventual was neat and thematically fitting. Seems like this season will be more about how practical AI tech might develop from what it's doing now, rather than the more fantastic theme park versions of the previous two seasons.

"so the eventual revelation was neat"

With the two year breaks between them, it's kinda hard to remember what happened in the previous seasons, though. When I was watching the episode, I'd completely forgotten Tessa Thompson isn't playing a human anymore, rather than one of the hosts who replaced her human character in the previous season. I was only reminded of it when I read a recap of the season 2 finale after having watched this one.

No one remembers what happened in Season 2, and frankly revisiting it might ruin Season 3.

I thought last night's episode was a good start to a new status quo.

(I have the vaguest memory of what happened in Season 2, but holy shit, that was a muddled mess and aside from maybe an episode or two I'll never watch that season again)

I agree that season 2 was a mess, but I liked it how they were willing to break apart the concepts of the first season to go deeper into the themes they're interested in... There's only so much you can do with the theme park setting and the "robots gaining consciousness" idea, and it seems with this season they're leaving those even further behind. It's rare to see a big budget TV series where you can't really predict at all where the plot might land.

I mean, the plot of the first season was thrilling, but the idea that "you shouldn't enslave sentient beings, even if they're AIs" has been explored in sci-fi so many times, it would've been boring if that was the whole point of the series, so I'm happy they moved on from that in the second season.

cool new actors

counterpoint: the plot of the first season barely existed, except as a container for a puzzle box that, when opened, turned out to be completely empty

i look forward to shakey-izing this thread all season. namaste.

It's bewildering even when restructured into a linear timeline. Wish it has more to say than, "woo! consciousness is cool; also, humans suck."

Enjoyed this episode too

Y'all watched the post credits scene, right?

yup

I would definitely endorse *not* watching the recap junk that follows, though. I accidentally let it roll for a couple minutes and it's very much "people who work on the show discuss the plot with less intelligence than a random coworker at the water cooler." I scrambled for the remote as soon as they said something about the gig-economy-for-crimes app being "blockchain"

The architecture they choose to highlight in this series was already really good, but it really stepped up in this episode. Not sure if you caught it, but the shot where Pinkman was walking and talking to "Francis", there was a four-way intersection in the background where none of the vehicles slowed down or stopped - they just timed perfectly not to collide. This was referenced later in the episode about "perfecting traffic" (or something similar), but I thought it was a cool detail even if it didn't get called out specifically.

oh yeah, that was the other thing I heard before I shut off the commentary -- effusive praise for Singapore

you just know it's all about how futuristic and nice it is, and not at all the actually dystopian parts -- because they're getting budget breaks to film there

the “do crimes” app is a creation of the giant society-running ai, right? seems pretty contrived and a way to let the dissatisfied and aggrieved people have a fake release valve

tonight’s episode was profoundly stupid

really been hoping this season would make things interesting again but nope

It's more interesting than some other shows I'm watching, so...

At some point I just turn my brain off for a minute and watch hot robots kill people and mech robots smash through Calatrava architecture

This season has been gorgeous to look at with some really excellent episodes, but yeah last night's was super dumb. Which is frustrating, since an episode focused on Tessa Thompson deserved much better.

Last night was a really revealing episode in that, at it's best, the show often allows you to assume the showrunners have a master plan and have everything mapped out pretty thoroughly, but, no, they are indeed just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

it was very much an episode that was meant to place certain characters in positions for further plot, with the Hale/William development bits that fell flat

idk, every show gets a few of these but it didn't do anything that exciting, even if I enjoyed a few moments

giant robot pulling a kool-aid man through the wall was nice

the theory I saw alluded to elsewhere that would be a goofy twist: there is no Serac, he's a creation of the Rehoboam AI that thinks he's the brother

oh god, that is what they're gonna do with Serac, isn't it? Seems so obvious

Mostly I've been liking this season for the visuals and the ideas they play with. It would be nice if those ideas could cohere into a story that makes sense but given previous seasons I don't expect it anymore. This season has shared a lot of similarities with Person of Interest, Nolan's previous show, which was also entertaining with some truly moronic plot turns and character decisions

OK, i confess, the classic JRPG story beat of “now we must fight our way into a secret base to get some clues from a schizophrenic AI” has me interested again

nice CAS drone action as well

really need emp-hardened cores on the hosts if they’re going to keep battling

At least last night's ep was super entertaining. Thought the Clementine fight at the beginning was pretty cool, though I'll admit to still being confused as to what exactly the Dolores/Musashi is supposed to be accomplishing.

Also why Musashi's old friend there that ended up beheading him said Delores was doing his image a disservice or whatever. Because really, she's so far removed from any personal motivation. Gotta have a badass line to reintroduce a character to the audience but otherwise I was all "what does she care?" Showrunners forgot this scene was way more complicated than the typical good guys slaughtering bad guys scenario maybe.

I think maybe the Nolan scripting issue is not explicitly reminding the audience of the plot twist.

All you have to know is that the Dolores that is currently Charlotte Hale has flipped, and has now leaked information on Musashi-Dolores, to Maeve’s team

there’s probably a really dumb essay to be written about the mind-body problem and how Maeve’s group are essentialists about the physical form and the Charlotte/Dolores character is fumbling through that idea

Oh I get what happened with Charlotte flipping, but I have no idea how Musashi-Dolores was working towards main Dolores' goal. Did I miss some exposition about his moves?

Fashion aside: I'd wear Delores's transforming dress if I had the body for it. Inspired by Hussein Chalayan (2013) or perhaps by way of Evan Hirsch (2019).

I do not know who shared this video to give them credit or know where it came from but what I do know is that I love this dress and @evanrachelwood works the hell out of it ✨#Westworld pic.twitter.com/hsfO1u8kZI

— Maks (@Maks_Allyn) April 27, 2020

Still watching and just about enjoying. The human characters in this have never been westworld's strong point and this season has just reaffirmed that, can there be anyone in the entire world that cares about Caleb?? This season has really soured me on maeve and at this point I'm generally satisfied with Dolores being awesome each week. Bernhard still the absolute yawniest worst.

Isn’t the entire point that no one has cared about Caleb as a person?

His mom did, but she was an outlier, so she got tooken

l meant anyone in the entire audience that cares that noone cares about Caleb

Everyone still watching this show is an outlier

Just catching up on this and wondering how the computer is able to cope with perfect physics simulation and AI indistinguishable from the real thing. But it gets overloaded reading the wikipedia page on imaginary numbers that any maths student understands by the end of 6th form ( ok maybe 1st year undergrad)?

But also I am enjoying the futuristic shit and explosions and attractive people being cool