No Irish, No Yanks, No Clogs - FIFA World Cup 2018

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it is indeed the good spurs boy and only manager to successfully bring it home, alf ramsey

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if you liked possession football on those pitches you REALLY liked possession football

ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:14 (five years ago) link

Nobby Stiles, total footballer.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:15 (five years ago) link

I have suggested before that 1966 feels like it happened at least in part because it was the only time England had a manager who was tactically on point. Venables a possible exception.

Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link

Indeed, England went from playing Tom Finney and Stanley Matthews and losing 6-3 and 7-1 to Hungary to playing Alan Ball and Nobby Stiles and winning the World Cup.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:18 (five years ago) link

v impressed you got that so quick

ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:18 (five years ago) link

Hang on, Alan Ball was good!

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:23 (five years ago) link

"Colleagues" felt v Ramsey-ish and I do find him a fascinating and admirable dude

Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:25 (five years ago) link

One reason for England's more encouraging than usual performance this time round is probably because the trend towards a very fast, pressing game suits this generation of English players and a lot of them have come up under either Pochettino and Klopp (or both)*. Other recent England squads would try and take a patient, possession-based approach and just end up looking ponderous and/or panicking and reverting to just hoofing it up.

*The main exception here being the United players who look visibly liberated right now.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:26 (five years ago) link

xp damn... max kudos for that. it is a lovely and distinctive usage. I don't know much about ramsey or football history so it was perhaps more surprising to me

ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:29 (five years ago) link

My dad told me how when Ramsey first introduced Alan Ball into the England side, Ball went to him after the game and complained that all Ramsey had had him do was run up and down the wing for 90 minutes, to no obvious effect. Ramsey's laconic reply was basically "well if you don't want to play, that's up to you".

Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:45 (five years ago) link

fucking hell

. (Michael B), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 11:43 (five years ago) link

Hang on, Alan Ball was good!

Alan Ball was always looked down on in Scotland as exactly the sort of red-in-the-face huffin' and puffin' 100% effort footballer England had been forced to rely to do trashy things like win a World Cup. The general consensus in Scotland, post-Ramsey, were that England were hod-carrying hoofers who relied on hard work and physicality to overcome the refined ball playing of 5 foot 5 Scotsmen with beer guts and 20-a-day habits.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 12:00 (five years ago) link

That was always the thing in Scotland, you're beating us but you're beating us the wrong way.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 12:02 (five years ago) link

"hod-carrying" is such a weird insult -- i for one wd respect neymar ten times as much if he neymared EXACTLY AS NOW, except always carrying a hod

mark s, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 12:14 (five years ago) link

actual hod-carrier before he became a footballer: vinnie jones

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link

from hod-carrier to spear-carrier in 3 moves

Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 12:36 (five years ago) link

Had no idea Switzerland were ranked so highly. Of the teams remaining, only Brazil and Belgium are ranked higher.

Mind you, 5 of the top 10 have already gone home and Chile didn't even qualify

groovypanda, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link

lol @ that finish

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link

The Zlatan - now more than ever

. (Michael B), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link

Back pass rule is *the* bug rule change of the past, what, century- the game we know did, in a sense begin in 1992, just not in the way that sky sports would have you think.

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

big rule change

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

the bug rule change was key too tho

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link

really bad lack of precision on both sides.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link

iirc Jimmy Hill said the backpass rule would be the death of the game but unsure what his rationale was beyond an innate conservative fear of change

Pardew to Megson: "you've stolen my New Orleans bounce" (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link

Sweden's crosses and through balls have been comical

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link

xp
Yeah, that and substitutes.

The other big change (not really in laws but in interpretation) is the criteria for yellow and red cards is much stricter, which does change things quite a lot.

Tim, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

that should be a Pen

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link

The inability to cross a ball is surely not a modern phenomenon.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link

It just seems that way.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link

looking back at old games the quality of the pitch and ball seem to be as big a chance as any. the deceleration on passes and lack of bounce is amazing

ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link

players had no choice but to hone their hoofing skills

ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link

Sweden just looks bad

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link

not sure how zlatan slowly walking around chatting shit would have fitted into sweden's defend, counter and win set-pieces plan

ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

he could have strategically fucked an opponent's wife prior to the game

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

that sweden miss was hilarious

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

Switzerland not exactly making them pay for it tho

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link

It *is* Lawrenson. He must have a fucker of a headcold. And he must have been ordered to rein in the dickery.

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:03 (five years ago) link

Very subdued by his standards

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link

banner day for people in the stands, they're catchin lotsa balls

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link

they should let Sweden insert subs from other national teams

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link

aahaahahahahahahaahahahahaahahahahaa

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

Are you singing "We hate it when our friends become successful" ?

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link

sweden do this better than russia

ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link

Cornerfest 2018

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link

Switzerland playing as if they think they're predestined to score a goal

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link

that's Calvinists for ya

Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

Sweden deserved this one. poor on the attack but really disciplined defending throughout

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

And that's that.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari) wrote this on thread No Irish, No Yanks, No Clogs - FIFA World Cup 2018 on board I Love Everything on 30-Jun-2018

Sweden, ultimately, to win the thing.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link


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