it is indeed the good spurs boy and only manager to successfully bring it home, alf ramsey
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/29/59/9f/29599f0d6880ce4fdb314fe22aa79850--ipswich-town-lions.jpg
if you liked possession football on those pitches you REALLY liked possession football
― ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:14 (five years ago) link
Nobby Stiles, total footballer.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:15 (five years ago) link
I have suggested before that 1966 feels like it happened at least in part because it was the only time England had a manager who was tactically on point. Venables a possible exception.
― Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link
Indeed, England went from playing Tom Finney and Stanley Matthews and losing 6-3 and 7-1 to Hungary to playing Alan Ball and Nobby Stiles and winning the World Cup.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:18 (five years ago) link
v impressed you got that so quick
― ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:18 (five years ago) link
Hang on, Alan Ball was good!
― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:23 (five years ago) link
"Colleagues" felt v Ramsey-ish and I do find him a fascinating and admirable dude
― Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:25 (five years ago) link
One reason for England's more encouraging than usual performance this time round is probably because the trend towards a very fast, pressing game suits this generation of English players and a lot of them have come up under either Pochettino and Klopp (or both)*. Other recent England squads would try and take a patient, possession-based approach and just end up looking ponderous and/or panicking and reverting to just hoofing it up.
*The main exception here being the United players who look visibly liberated right now.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:26 (five years ago) link
xp damn... max kudos for that. it is a lovely and distinctive usage. I don't know much about ramsey or football history so it was perhaps more surprising to me
― ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:29 (five years ago) link
My dad told me how when Ramsey first introduced Alan Ball into the England side, Ball went to him after the game and complained that all Ramsey had had him do was run up and down the wing for 90 minutes, to no obvious effect. Ramsey's laconic reply was basically "well if you don't want to play, that's up to you".
― Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:45 (five years ago) link
bloody hell, this story:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/03/mikel-john-obi-father-kidnapped-world-cup
― I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link
fucking hell
― . (Michael B), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 11:43 (five years ago) link
Alan Ball was always looked down on in Scotland as exactly the sort of red-in-the-face huffin' and puffin' 100% effort footballer England had been forced to rely to do trashy things like win a World Cup. The general consensus in Scotland, post-Ramsey, were that England were hod-carrying hoofers who relied on hard work and physicality to overcome the refined ball playing of 5 foot 5 Scotsmen with beer guts and 20-a-day habits.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 12:00 (five years ago) link
That was always the thing in Scotland, you're beating us but you're beating us the wrong way.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 12:02 (five years ago) link
"hod-carrying" is such a weird insult -- i for one wd respect neymar ten times as much if he neymared EXACTLY AS NOW, except always carrying a hod
― mark s, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 12:14 (five years ago) link
actual hod-carrier before he became a footballer: vinnie jones
― I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link
from hod-carrier to spear-carrier in 3 moves
― Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 12:36 (five years ago) link
Had no idea Switzerland were ranked so highly. Of the teams remaining, only Brazil and Belgium are ranked higher.
Mind you, 5 of the top 10 have already gone home and Chile didn't even qualify
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link
lol @ that finish
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link
The Zlatan - now more than ever
― . (Michael B), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link
Back pass rule is *the* bug rule change of the past, what, century- the game we know did, in a sense begin in 1992, just not in the way that sky sports would have you think.
― Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link
big rule change
the bug rule change was key too tho
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link
really bad lack of precision on both sides.
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link
iirc Jimmy Hill said the backpass rule would be the death of the game but unsure what his rationale was beyond an innate conservative fear of change
― Pardew to Megson: "you've stolen my New Orleans bounce" (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link
Sweden's crosses and through balls have been comical
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
xp Yeah, that and substitutes.
The other big change (not really in laws but in interpretation) is the criteria for yellow and red cards is much stricter, which does change things quite a lot.
― Tim, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link
that should be a Pen
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link
The inability to cross a ball is surely not a modern phenomenon.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link
It just seems that way.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
looking back at old games the quality of the pitch and ball seem to be as big a chance as any. the deceleration on passes and lack of bounce is amazing
― ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link
players had no choice but to hone their hoofing skills
― ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
Sweden just looks bad
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link
not sure how zlatan slowly walking around chatting shit would have fitted into sweden's defend, counter and win set-pieces plan
― ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link
he could have strategically fucked an opponent's wife prior to the game
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link
that sweden miss was hilarious
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
Switzerland not exactly making them pay for it tho
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link
It *is* Lawrenson. He must have a fucker of a headcold. And he must have been ordered to rein in the dickery.
― Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:03 (five years ago) link
Very subdued by his standards
― Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link
banner day for people in the stands, they're catchin lotsa balls
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
they should let Sweden insert subs from other national teams
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link
aahaahahahahahahaahahahahaahahahahaa
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
Are you singing "We hate it when our friends become successful" ?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link
sweden do this better than russia
― ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link
Cornerfest 2018
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
Switzerland playing as if they think they're predestined to score a goal
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link
that's Calvinists for ya
― Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
Sweden deserved this one. poor on the attack but really disciplined defending throughout
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link
And that's that.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link
Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari) wrote this on thread No Irish, No Yanks, No Clogs - FIFA World Cup 2018 on board I Love Everything on 30-Jun-2018Sweden, ultimately, to win the thing.
Sweden, ultimately, to win the thing.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link