Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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have never been more impatient for a company to fail than Spotify

https://media.pitchfork.com/photos/5b3a854a8b7610470d0dd7a4/2:1/w_790/drake-spotify-2%20(1)%20(1).jpeg

Milton Parker, Monday, 2 July 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link

Yes, once Spotify fails you'll definitely never encounter Drake on Apple or Amazon...

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

Almost given up on Daily Mixes. I appreciate that it's designed to give me the same or similar artists all the time as it's comfort zone stuff but for some artists it never varies the song choice.

yea it is weird, some of my daily mixes are made up of stuff i haven't listened to in a year, but the stuff i listen to all the time now isn't even there

marcos, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:24 (five years ago) link

I still play Daily Mixes because they are convenient but i'm pretty tired of seeing the exact same songs by the same 5-10 artists every day in there for months. For example, i've only ever been served Making Plans for Nigel by XTC.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

The "daily" part doesn't really seem to be true. I wish these changed a lot more.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

are labels the reason why youtube recommendations are 100x as good as spotify recommendations?

ogmor, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

Song Radio >>> Daily Mix I feel but I overlooked the former as an option for too long and maybe there's no substantial difference

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link

lol YouTube recommendations are the worst

niels, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

Spotify contender for best technology for music listeners since radio

niels, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

are labels the reason why youtube recommendations are 100x as good as spotify recommendations?

Ah yes, you listened to a song, next here's a man skateboarding nude with razorblades in his scrotum, followed by two girls eating chillis.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link

That doesn’t happen to me – I get on-point recommendations of other songs.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 00:18 (five years ago) link

Lol the best technology for listeners since the radio is crazy talk

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 00:59 (five years ago) link

Dan Ingram is turning over in his newly dug grave.

Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link

youtube has the song mixes and recommends me a lot of foreign out of print records and other obscurities, as well ofc as street guitarists, kids dancing to rap, live recordings and other things outside of spotify's purview, and spotify recommends me blondie, liars, carl craig and paul mccartney

ogmor, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 07:52 (five years ago) link

I mean, I like spotify a lot and would pay quite a bit more for it if the money went to artists but in terms of recommendations it can't compete and I'm wondering if this is a user/bottom-up approach beating a labels/top-down one

ogmor, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 07:54 (five years ago) link

it isn't that much of a difference, everybody's* music listening and discovering is mediated by labels, directly or indirectly

* with the possible exception of people on a message board

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link

I think there's a case to be made for the "bottom-up" approach being maybe superior, with Wikipedia (imperfect though it may be) as an obvious use case, given how much it's come to be relied upon / cited. Unlike Wikipedia, though, stuff gets pulled from YouTube all the time. Just look at any years-old ILM thread with a decent number of embeds.

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 July 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link

when yr being recommended out of print stuff I think it's safe to assume labels are not involved

ogmor, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link

Seems like much ado over little to me, but I guess Spotify has learned their lesson...

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link

... or they got enough $$$ from the label that a few refunds is trivial

Simon H., Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

I assume "a few refunds" is trivial in general for most companies

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

imagine asking for a refund for that.

Hall of Fam (Spottie), Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

was more annoyed by spotify's promotion of its own voice control technology

scopin' VARs (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

I hope this isn’t coming out of your bonus Glenn

calstars, Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

surely glenn has come up with a more interesting name for that pay genre

scopin' VARs (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

Every time somebody hits Next on a Drake song before the end, I get $.0001 for each second remaining. People laughed at me when I originally made this deal. "Who are 'Drake' and why would people need to skip them?"

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 6 July 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link

good analysis imo at the FT here (t.co link to get past the paywall, but google "Spotify: Drake-oil salesmen" if the link doesn't work

https://t.co/5PvVMWlO8E

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 7 July 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

The rogue KING has another new track out.

I laughed when this showed up as "Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark" on my release radar tho:
https://open.spotify.com/track/3EJfmzhb9CNJT43ZGOP88U?si=LNlogGsdS0S-NdOte6Cd4Q

Jeff W, Saturday, 7 July 2018 08:34 (five years ago) link

Got both of those too - also a Squeeze that Spotify thinks is that Squeeze but isn't. This is definitely happening more often lately.

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Saturday, 7 July 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link

I got that "OMD" track too. Guessing those aren't guest bars.

DJI, Saturday, 7 July 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link

Someone should rap over OMD's 'Sacred Heart' though.

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Saturday, 7 July 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

Maddeningly, when I save a playlist on my iPad, it saves as ARTIST - ALBUM, but when I do it on the desktop app it saves as ALBUM - ARTIST

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 8 July 2018 09:52 (five years ago) link

Maddeningly, when I save a playlist on my iPad, it saves as ARTIST - ALBUM, but when I do it on the desktop app it saves as ALBUM - ARTIST

This desktop behaviour appears to be a recent change -- I have an old playlist folder to which I drag albums as playlists on my desktop, and all previous entries are ARTIST – ALBUM, but suddenly now, newly dragged albums are named ALBUM – ARTIST. Grr.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

hey uh pretty sure that new Fucked Up song is...a different Fucked Up

Simon H., Friday, 13 July 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link

i’ve been reporting these mixups when they show up in release radar by clicking the three dots on the right hand side

maura, Friday, 13 July 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

ah!

Simon H., Friday, 13 July 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link

Spotify just reminded me it’s fhe weekend and that it’s time to lay back and relax and maybe chill to some jams
No shit bra?

calstars, Saturday, 14 July 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link

A few weeks ago it offered up a playlist — “Songs to Test Headphones With” (192,347 Followers)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Saturday, 14 July 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link

The summer rewind playlist I got this year is really good!

I've seen “Songs to Test Headphones With” before--seems to be mostly "dads who are really into music" stuff iirc? Steely Dan, Roxy Music, etc

Dan I., Sunday, 15 July 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

Hey, but after checking it out I see that now Spotify has the real recording of Axel F! I think it was some fake 3rd party recreation before...

Dan I., Sunday, 15 July 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

Glad to see 'Songs to Test Headphones With' includes Happiness Is Easy by Talk Talk, that song was always my go-to for that back in the Discman era.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 15 July 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

probably my single biggest gripe about the mobile app is that when it decides you're offline -- which has little or nothing to do with whether you're actually online -- the app is unusable until it decides you're online again, which can take ages

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link

Oh yes, that is bad. It's about my only gripe really, apart from the startup time.

Alba, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link

I don't get that - you have premium, right? When it thinks I'm offline it still lets me play tracks I've downloaded.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

Smae here

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

..."downloaded"?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I have premium. I'm not talking about tracks I've downloaded but about ones I want to stream.

Alba, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

Which is mostly the way I listen, given that I have unlimited data but only 64GB on my phone.

Alba, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link


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