there are fewer b-sides overall but many of them are quality. all the various s/t bonus tracks are great
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 2 July 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link
Enh, the self-titled's non-album material was pretty strong, but the 4:13 Dream stuff was hit or miss. 'Down Under' and 'Without You' are decent.
Same with Bloodflowers. There weren't really any "b-sides" from that album, but the outtakes and related recordings from the time are kind of meh.
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Monday, 2 July 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link
"Spilt Milk" is from the Bloodflowers era and is all time.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 July 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link
It's alright. Definitely the better of the "lost" songs surrounding that album.
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Monday, 2 July 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link
Coming Up, the Australian bonus track, was deeply meh, but I don't know what else was an outtake from around then. Of the two new songs for the Greatest Hits the next year, Cut Here is great and Just Say Yes is underwhelming but tolerable.
While I'm posting, here's Wolf Alice clashing Boys with Boys Don't Cry for an Australian radio session:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg1ocz7TUL4
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 00:26 (five years ago) link
Really enjoyed the Hyde Park event yesterday evening. The sound could have been a bit better, but it was an interesting mixed crowd and good atmosphere. I stood rooted to my spot for the whole set and my knees were 'locked' when i went to move: the old person's personal indicator of a good gig.
― Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 8 July 2018 10:37 (five years ago) link
I was going to go but I asked a friend if they were interested when it was first announced and they said the sound is always shit in Hyde Park because of draconian noise level restrictions so I gave it a miss, the ticket price made that decision easier
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 8 July 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link
Hi dere. I’ve got a question that’s probably been asked or answered a dozen times, perhaps by me, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that part of Robert Smith’s guitar sound was an intentional detuning of some of the strings, perhaps making the high E string a bit sharp. Now I can’t find this anywhere so I am asking for a friendhere while the thread is live.
― Pwn Goal Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 July 2018 13:07 (five years ago) link
That's a good question! I know RS (like other guitarists) had an epiphany that what the chorus effect was doing was in essence just detuning his guitar, so I can see how he might make that leap, though in practice it seems a pretty imprecise way to go. I know he did use a six-string bass - tuned up? - as his guitar quite a bit, which also throws off nailing his sound, at least sometimes.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 July 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link
Yeah I saw something about a Fender VI, I think it was
― Pwn Goal Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 July 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link
Here’s something about that. Interesting that he wrote “Primary” on one but then used a Precision to record it.
― Pwn Goal Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 July 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link
Link I meant to add: http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3687
― Pwn Goal Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 July 2018 13:56 (five years ago) link
Sad news
Andy Anderson, Former Drummer For The Cure, Reveals He Has Terminal Cancer
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2019/02/20/andy-anderson-the-cure-cancer/
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:09 (five years ago) link
Saw that yesterday on reddit.
I swear, if we're ranking the members of the Cure just based on how cool they looked in their tenure with the band, Andy wins easily. One cool bloke, to be absolutely clear.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link
ticket ballot is open for four nights of them playing Disintegration at the Sydney Opera House btw
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link
Really is awful news about Anderson. Hoping Robert mentions him at the HoF ceremony for sure.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link
So, so sad.
― Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 21 February 2019 03:30 (five years ago) link
Aw no, absolutely shit news. The most underrated of all the Cure drummers.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 21 February 2019 04:27 (five years ago) link
this is horrible news, didn't know or realize that he also played druns on The Glove album.
― Bee OK, Friday, 22 February 2019 00:48 (five years ago) link
Such horrible news. I always enjoyed listening to live performances from their 1984 tour and his drumming was a big part of that.
Coincidentally, according to this Chain of Flowers post, Andy Anderson, Phil Thornalley, and Matthieu Hartley will not be inducted into the Hall of Fame as former members of the Cure.
― Ex Slacker, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 02:54 (five years ago) link
That's just bullshit. They played on records and were touring members.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 03:55 (five years ago) link
Agreed. It feels wrong to me to not induct the rhythm section that played on 'The Lovecats' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 07:19 (five years ago) link
It's bullshit if they leave 'em out but let Reeves in, who has played over a hundred shows now but only done three tours in seven years as a member, and never been contracted to play on a Cure record (I think? since Wrong Number was recorded by Cogasm)
otherwise, ehh, don't the Hall make inexplicable line calls about who's admissible every year?
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 07:37 (five years ago) link
Yeah they have some weird standards in that regard.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link
Sadly, Andy Anderson has now passed on.
https://www.post-punk.com/former-drummer-for-the-cure-andy-anderson-has-passed-away/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link
Just saw this on Twitter. Holy shit
― Duke, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link
It's with a heavy heart, I have to report the passing of a Cure brother.Andy Anderson was A true gentleman and a great musician with a wicked sense of humor which he kept until the end, a testament to his beautiful spirit on the last journey. We are blessed to have known him.— Lol Tolhurst (@LolTolhurst) February 26, 2019
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link
Best Cure drummer, I just saw a clip of a show from the early 90s where they were playing music from his era and wow I missed him.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 23:54 (five years ago) link
The world just got a lot less cool.
Andy🤜🏻🤛🏿Andy
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:14 (five years ago) link
this is horrible news, RIP.
going to have to play The Top tomorrow.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 01:43 (five years ago) link
My favourite Andy momentshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFCNikO5TmAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd8uz2e7fskhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pgc3fgh27c
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 03:15 (five years ago) link
So sad.
The Top was the Cure album I ignored the most when I was a teenager as to young me it sounded like a band that had lost its way a bit - like it crawled out of the darkness, made a couple of great pop songs and didn't know what to do about it. Over the years it has grown and grown on me and the drumming was a big part of that.
RIP Andy
(have to disagree with Matthew about "One Hundred Years" on Concert though. Andy never quite nails the crushing oppressive magnificence of Lol's studio effort - for me it's Lol's finest moment as a Cure musician)
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 09:04 (five years ago) link
I agree the studio version crushes (altho I have a lingering suspicion it’s not all Lol) but that Concert version is like a cruise missile
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 11:22 (five years ago) link
Well it's a drum machine in studio - part of why it didnt work live for a while
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 11:44 (five years ago) link
They were on fire in '84, the London performances that some of the Concert tracks were taken from are all time.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 12:25 (five years ago) link
Thanks, thought I was nuts for thinking that. Those 84 shows are wonderful.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 12:45 (five years ago) link
Recordings can be found here, if you scroll down about two-thirds of the way.
http://cureforall.eklablog.com/1984-c215966
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 12:57 (five years ago) link
💙from pearl thompson's instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/BuXUxlZn5qE💙
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link
This is heartbreaking, this concert was posted by Andy Anderson himself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoqxwFyTywI
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 20:25 (five years ago) link
just finished watching that full concert. not sure if Andy is my favorite Cure drummer but he was good. back to the concert, it is like an end of an era concert. they, of course, recorded The Head on the Door next and it changed the Cure forever. it was their second phase, i count Three Imaginary Boys as the first phase, and they were going in a full pop direction after The Top album. the Cure have always been a fantastic live band and this concert is special.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 28 February 2019 00:47 (five years ago) link
My take on Cure drummers - Lol: there for the camaraderie, great at the minimal, atmospheric beats early Cure required; Andy: along with Phil, helped Robert break his impasse and move into pop, powerful drummer whose style was an addition but didn't quite gel; Boris: perfect Cure drummer, creative, deft, deceptively technical; Jason: has been there longer than anyone else.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 February 2019 02:15 (five years ago) link
RIP Andy, I didn't understand the Top until I was older but I listened to Concert about two thousand times.
And he really left Hawkwind to join the Glove? That is pretty awesome.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 28 February 2019 03:33 (five years ago) link
I tend to think of the Cure as having four different eras, each one neatly marked by each drummer: Early Years (Lol), The Lost Weekend (Andy), Classic Era (Boris), and Late Period (Jason).
― Ex Slacker, Thursday, 28 February 2019 04:28 (five years ago) link
And he really left Hawkwind to join the Glove? That is pretty awesome.whaaaaaat
The Glove is one of my favorites, RIP Andy
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link
And he really left Hawkwind to join the Glove?
he did not fuck about, my friend.👍🏻
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 1 March 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEA-ewhvs2Q
― MaresNest, Saturday, 16 March 2019 13:20 (five years ago) link
http://www.capetalk.co.za/articles/341782/we-ve-always-rejected-the-convention-says-the-cure-frontman-robert-smith
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 12:23 (five years ago) link
So, the 4:14 Scream idea sounds like it's been canned in favour of a whole new album.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 12:24 (five years ago) link
what an unexpected development
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 12:35 (five years ago) link
jeez guys just release the deluxe edition of Wish already
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:21 (five years ago) link