you've already failed in some fundamental way when you have to resort to that option is the thing
― Number None, Monday, 2 July 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link
this match is one that makes me glad I quit gambling. can't imagine how many things I would have destroyed had I had money on Japan straight up.
I had a small bet on Japan to win, bet365 actually awarded it after they'd gone 2-0 up the suckerz
― shaqiri tip (nashwan), Monday, 2 July 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link
not a player you'd ever want to see near a starting lineup but i don't get ppl who act like he is utterly worthless, he's obviously a fantastic option to have with 10 mins to play
should only put Fellaini in with 8 1/2 minutes to play, imo
― supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Monday, 2 July 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link
Ba-dump-tiiii
― alomar lines, Monday, 2 July 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link
kind of looking forward to fellaini v brazil willian frodown tbh
― shaqiri tip (nashwan), Monday, 2 July 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link
tbf to Fellaini he is good enough to make 25 appearances for West Brom next season.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Monday, 2 July 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link
you think witsel is pissed that fellaini steals all the fro-tention?
― supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Monday, 2 July 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link
obv feel sorry for japan but that was the sort of amazing knock out game they've deserved for a while. still buzzing from that
― ogmor, Monday, 2 July 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link
Woman I work with fancies the shorts off Fellaini. Phew, not half.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Monday, 2 July 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
spoken like a true utd fan
you don't ever want to see a guy like Fellaini become a starting player for your team, i get that, but acting like you're above lumping it long in the last tens mins when your original plan isnt working (especially when the change actually works, as it did tonight) is such bullshit
― Windsor Davies, Monday, 2 July 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
Open mutiny against Martinez? FFS Matt
― imago, Monday, 2 July 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
Not to tempt fate but quite a drop-off of VAR madness since the knockout stage began no?
― shaqiri tip (nashwan), Monday, 2 July 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
i made such an insane noise when inui scored. lads, i love football
― ogmor, Monday, 2 July 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
so how many spurs goals is that now?
― I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 2 July 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
I count 14 from past and present players.
― Matt DC, Monday, 2 July 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link
there are levels to this thing. Obviously going long to the big lad is not a mortal sin in and of itself, it's when it's your only Plan B that it becomes a problem. And that's been the case with three consecutive underperforming Utd managers
― Number None, Monday, 2 July 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
sapporo beer commercial by the way if anyone hasn't seen it yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4wPEw4Ug0M
― F# A# (∞), Monday, 2 July 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link
Maybe the three consecutive underperforming United managers are to blame then.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
no shit
― Number None, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link
jfc
Lots of anger regarding a football player to deal with.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link
it's when it's your only Plan B that it becomes a problem
how many plans do you imagine the average manager has
― Windsor Davies, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link
hes greatfootball is great cant wait for the 48 team fifa world cups
― nxd, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link
xp one plan and a solid backup option seems like pretty good going to me
― Windsor Davies, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link
fellaini player manager knocking out spain in the round of 32 2k22
― nxd, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link
problem with utd is not that Fellaini = a rubbish plan b, it's that your plan A is so shit to begin with
― Windsor Davies, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link
I feel like I'm talking to a wall here
― Number None, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
Don't you get it WD, despite the fact that Belgium is a country of 10 millions and with limited ressources they shouldn't play ever Fellaini ever because he represents the long post-Fergie decline of United.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
you are genuinely quite dense aren't you
― Number None, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link
Perhaps yes, but I have the humility to face the fact that some more brillant football minds than you and I have used Fellaini in some high leverage footballing situations.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link
FFS take this to an ILF thread
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgflip.com/2damo3.gif
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link
The cutrently highest-performing (male) American in world football will be center stage tomorrow for England-Colombia… your referee, Mark Geiger! Lolololol this could be fantastic.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link
oh God, UEFA and CONMEBOL will learn how it feels to be CONCACAFed
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
Look it's not that Fellaini isn't legal it's just that his use speaks to the moral character of the user
― Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
Talking point of that game should not be about Manchester United imo.
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
idk NN i would quite like examples of these versatile teams that have two or more ways of breaking the opposition down
Fellaini is not good and you wouldnt ever want him to be your primary outlet, but i think when youre struggling to come up with ideas of how to win a game w/ 10 mins to go you could do worse than stick him on and kick it long to him. it isn't pretty but it obviously works, at least up to a point
repeating myself now but the problem with utd under their three consecutive underperforming managers is not Fellanini, it's there's been so little idea of how to win games by playing "properly" that you end up being reliant on a guy like Fellanini which apparently is beneath you
― Windsor Davies, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
wow two consec mispellings i should probably check myself out
― Windsor Davies, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link
is this a 'play the game the right way' argument?
― Hall of Fam (Spottie), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link
whole convo reminds me of:
https://youtu.be/g_wc9JvTXGc?t=1m45s
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link
On another note, every time Clattenberg offers an opinion I immediately believe the opposite
― Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link
repeating myself now but the problem with utd under their three consecutive underperforming managers is not Fellanini
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link
Was thinking it would be weird to have six European teams and only two South American teams in the QF but it happened at the last WC in Europe too. So that's nice for England maybe.
― shaqiri tip (nashwan), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
yeah alright that seems fair i am more than done
xp i don't really understand clattenberg's role in proceedings anyway, they never actually ask him what he thinks until after the decision has been made
― Windsor Davies, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link
The Clattenburg reservoir of correct opinion has been drip draining for many years. He called in some drainage experts a couple of years ago but it looks like they sold him a pup.
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link
<3 Clattenburg's accent if not a lot else
― shaqiri tip (nashwan), Monday, 2 July 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link
I agree with most of your points Windsor, hence my frustration. Utd fans know that the team has been dysfunctional on a number of levels for some time now. Fellaini is just a symptom of that dysfunction - if a rather large and obvious one
I'm happy to leave it there, but the thread policing is super lame
― Number None, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link
Sorry Number None I have been harsh, I just have some frustration myself when good not great players get swallowed by larger more powerful clubs and are misused there, a dude like Fellaini would probably fit better in my hometown-across-the-ocean club Bordeaux.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 2 July 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link
Usually European teams do better in European hosted tournaments is my knee jerk pub go to but I might be statistically limp. So to say.
Sometimes knees jerk correctly.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Monday, 2 July 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link