"it's not good for baseball in that situation" -- unwritten rules being broken, playing baseball the wrong way

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i think that mainly players don't want to feel embarrassed. pitch framing isn't really directed at your opponent so much as at the umpire; an ideal umpire shouldn't even care where the catcher's glove is.

as to why stealing signs is bad and the hidden-ball trick is good, i have no explanation

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

i'd almost argue the unwritten rule is "don't get caught by the hidden ball trick"

challops trap house (Will M.), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

Former third baseman Matt Williams used a different technique. On more than one occasion, he asked the runner to step off the base so that Williams could sweep the dirt off it, then tagged out the runner when the runner complied.[4] This worked twice.[5][1]

omar little, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link

lmao

In the minor leagues, in 1987 catcher Dave Bresnahan of the Williamsport Bills pulled an unusual hidden ball trick against the Reading Phillies in the Eastern League. With a runner on third base, Bresnahan switched catcher's mitts and put on a glove in which he had secreted a peeled potato. When the pitch came in, Bresnahan fired the white potato down the third-base line, enticing the runner to sprint home. Bresnahan then tagged the runner with the baseball which he kept in his mitt. The umpire awarded the runner home plate for Bresnahan's deception. Bresnahan was banned from the league for the incident, but the fans of the Bills loved the play and the team eventually retired Bresnahan's number.[19][20]

omar little, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link

15 years ago i played in an adult wood-bat league -- my team was all the leftovers who weren't on or picked up by an established team, and we lost every single game. and i broke a lot of bats, but not in a fun way -- they just kind of splintered instead of blowing up like the big leaguers' do.

but i did pull off the hidden-ball trick as a first baseman. and since i am a sad old man i will bring it up every time it's mentioned on this borad

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link

xp. that's amazing

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

lol

Baseball's biggest problem isn't strikeouts or analytics or pace of play.

It's curmudgeonly broadcasters that piss on the current game and players. You know what's a bad way to sell a product to young fans? Screaming "get off my lawn!" every night. pic.twitter.com/GhnT3TdXeu

— Joe Giglio (@JoeGiglioSports) July 29, 2018

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Monday, 30 July 2018 03:47 (five years ago) link

I think it’s at least a little bit fair to be disgruntled at some nerd telling you where to hit the baseball

faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 9 August 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

I think he’s probably just mad that no one is telling him to hit baseballs this year

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 August 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

Wish he had just retired a Nat :( but I guess the chance to keep hitting baseballs has a draw of its own

faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 9 August 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

i dont blame older players for feeling that way.

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Thursday, 9 August 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

one of the bigger names to retire as a tacoma rainier

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 August 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

i think someone should suggest the Saberseminar sell SuperNerd t shirts next year

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:49 (five years ago) link

unwritten front-office rules

Believe the Tigers were about to get big bites on Shane Greene -- until a non-contender blocked him on the waiver wire. That's legal, but front offices don't forget the obstruction. Among non-contenders, it's viewed as a low blow.

— Lynn G. Henning (@Lynn_Henning) August 23, 2018

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 August 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

There's disrespectful batflips, and then there's this.....pic.twitter.com/mmnVrkVfOb

— Cut4 (@Cut4) September 11, 2018

mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link

44 second home run trot

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link

kinda like Burt Reynolds entering the Tonight Show set in 1978

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6lkdeJ3gPk

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

maybe goose gossage is the way he is because of how long it took george brett to get around the bases here:

October 10, 1980: George Brett hits a three-run home run in Game 3 of the ALCS. The Royals sweep the Yankees and win their first American League pennant. #RaisedRoyal pic.twitter.com/rbwFmeosi6

— Kansas City Royals (@Royals) October 10, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

I think it was Ron Coomer the other night who was talking about how it used to be if your team was playing a meaningless game on the last day of the season, everyone just wanted to go home, so if a batter saw more than three pitches in an at-bat, they were fined by their teammates. Not even a kangaroo court situation since it was the end of the season, just immediately pay $50 or $100 if you see more than three pitches. It was a pretty funny anecdote.

na (NA), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Here's my unwritten rule: There is literally no bad time to hit dingers. https://t.co/dkBVMWrAXP

— Michael Baumann (@MichaelBaumann) May 18, 2021

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 03:58 (two years ago) link

wow i just caught up with this. fuck larussa. unbelievable.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link

You’d think sticking up for your own players would be an important unwritten rule...

I honestly hope the Sox have a bad skid of losses and LaRussia’s gets ripped apart by fans and the team alike. I am so grossed out by him at this point that I want his own players to just ridicule him openly

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

i would prefer that the sox keep winning and larussa get another DUI and gets ripped apart by fans and the team alike

na (NA), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link

i dunno - if two DUIs wasn't enough to prevent him from getting the job, I'm not sure three will have any effect.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 19:57 (two years ago) link

It's good that everyone under the age of 65 who doesn't have a sports media job appealing to Boomers thinks LaRussa's full of shit.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 20 May 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

Hate can be very therapeutic, so a gift for everyone.

https://www.billjamesonline.com/r_e_s_p_e_c_t/

(I knew instantaneously where he'd come down.)

clemenza, Thursday, 20 May 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link

"Yermin the Vermin"...fuck this guy.

In my house are many Manchins (WmC), Thursday, 20 May 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

bill the pill

na (NA), Thursday, 20 May 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

yermin the vermin doesn't even work unless you mispronounce his name

na (NA), Thursday, 20 May 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

Has a reporter asked if the Minnesota Twins’ feewings were hurt? That seems to be the germane issue. And an important one in baseball, that famous respecter of players’ feewings.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 20 May 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

"Yermin the Vermin"--only skimmed, missed that; ugh.

clemenza, Thursday, 20 May 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link

how about “bill the dipshit” it has a ring to it

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 20 May 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

I love how swinging at a pitch is considered reprehensible but then throwing at a player in retribution is totally ok according to the "unwritten rules"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 May 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link

jeez, bill james, cut it out

In the great movie "Gran Torino", Clint Eastwood pats a young child on the head, only to learn that this is considered highly offensive in the Hmong culture. It’s an unwritten rule.

We are, of course, in the middle of a controversy involving the unwritten rules. Yermin Mercedes, who is no relation to his cousin, Vermin Gran Torino . .

Anyway, the thing that has just happened, between Yermin the Vermin and Tony LaRedneck, has very close parallels in my life, your life, and everybody else’s life.

Mercedes, of course. . . and I mean no disrespect by joking about his name. . .but

Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 May 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

i haven't seen gran torino, so maybe i'm missing some connection to it and "vernin"? james has clint eastwood on the brain

Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 May 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link

If an established position player is pitching then swing all you want imo.

This is not a triple A pitcher trying to get a job in the majors and they are adding to his era in a blowout, the other team basically called in the L.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 21 May 2021 01:23 (two years ago) link

Astros broadcast just said that A's fans stand out to them because they seem to boo only players from the 2017 team, and not ALL of the current Astros like other fans do.

— Gabe (@925mlbfan) May 20, 2021

:)

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 21 May 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

i believe that the best fans in baseball will also boo the proper players

Karl Malone, Friday, 21 May 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

Wonder if Springer will get such a treatment.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 21 May 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link


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