Grateful Dead live, Dick's Picks etc - S&D

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i do want to read that new book about the post-Jerry years that just came out, should have some juicy stuff in it.
The Rolling Stone mention, not really a review, that I saw (may have been more coverage later) cited the shocking tale of how Lesh and Weir cruelly went Furthur, leaving the other Dead behind. I had previewed a Furthur show in Columbus OH, did a little background, seemed like just another GD sidetrip, like all of 'em have done at one time or another. They had the Garcia clone from Deep Banana Blackout, a couple relatively young but experienced hands on drums and hopefully non-toxic keys, plus the possibility of unlisted guests, as at earlier gigs, non-outrageous ticket prices etc., whole thing seemed okay. Apparently ended when Weir fell down onstage, but that was furthur down the road.
A thing on the Phil Zone site in late 90s where he announced that he was disgusted with at least some of the other Dead, the ones who wanted to use the Vault as collateral in a venture with Microsoft, according to him---suppose there might be *some* lasting fallout from the Phil Zone over this, and maybe that's in the book as well.

dow, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:01 (four months ago) Permalink

Oh no, sorry, he wasn't from DBB; this was the crew we got with Lesh and Weir:
The original lineup also included John Kadlecik of the Dark Star Orchestra on lead guitar, Jeff Chimenti of RatDog on keyboards, Jay Lane of RatDog on percussion, and Joe Russo of the Benevento/Russo Duo on drums.

dow, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:33 (four months ago) Permalink

Although Lane may have already split? I didn't actually attend, so no idea (assigned a preview, not a review).

dow, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:35 (four months ago) Permalink

Furthur retained much of the characteristic style and texture of the Dead. In addition to performing many of the songs regularly played in concert by the Dead, Furthur tried to "keep it fresh" by routinely adding new material to their setlists. This included many songs resurrected from the Grateful Dead's extensive songbook, including several rarely or never performed live, like "Alice D. Millionaire", as well as several cover songs from bands including the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, the Band, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Ryan Adams, Van Morrison and the Clash. They also regularly performed some new, original material. Now I wish I'd gone!

dow, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:02 (four months ago) Permalink

Deep Dark Banana Star Blackout Orchestra. (It's hard to keep all them jambands straight...) xxp

Get aboard the flappy bird, departing gate 19 (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:16 (four months ago) Permalink

was there always a vague affinity from jam bands towards the talking heads? it's something i've noticed lately. there's even a band called 'pink talking phish' which i'm sure is just... something

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:22 (four months ago) Permalink

Post-Jerry: The Dead > Dead & Co >>> Furthur in my experience. Phil was great but he's nowhere near the player he used to be and Otiel in dead & co is an upgrade with a sweet voice for ballads and having a DSO's Jerry impersonator up front was creepy. My advice is don't let Mayer scare you away, he takes a backseat to Bob and deeply respects the music.

BrianB, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:22 (four months ago) Permalink

How was Trey w Dead & Co. or whatever they were called then?

dow, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:26 (four months ago) Permalink

i was driving lyft the night byrne played mpls and i picked up a carload of jam band dudes from colorado

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:28 (four months ago) Permalink

thanks for picking us up dawg, though we weren't loving the tunes -- did you say it was some band called Loutallica?

tylerw, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:30 (four months ago) Permalink

Vernon is a shy violet with no spine.

this is really misinformed, vernon can actually belt when he wants to & is an outstanding, very well-rounded musician

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:33 (four months ago) Permalink

The Dead w/ Warren Hayes >> The Dead w/ Trey. Trey's not bluesy enough to stand in Jerry's shoes.

BrianB, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:43 (four months ago) Permalink

xxxp
In the times I tried (and failed) to get into Phish, it flummoxed me how they loved stuff right in my zone like the Dead, Talking Heads, and VU's Loaded -- yet I could find no way into their own music (including their covers of that stuff).

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:48 (four months ago) Permalink

this is really misinformed, vernon can actually belt when he wants to & is an outstanding, very well-rounded musician

― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, June 28, 2018 5:33 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're right, I'm only familiar with For Emma, Forever Ago (which I loved), and his wishy-washy Grammy's speech, which was 6 or 7 years ago. I haven't kept up with him.

flappy bird, Friday, 29 June 2018 16:53 (four months ago) Permalink

i was a mayer skeptic for a long time but saw them at citi and thought he did a great job of largely taking a backseat while injecting some (relative) youth and energy into the lineup. he really killed the guitar on help -> slip -> franklin and his voice works pretty well on bluesier stuff like hurts me too. it's taken them some time to find their groove together but i'm feeling this tour a lot.

oiocha, Friday, 29 June 2018 17:28 (four months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

god dicks picks 8 is good, the acoustic set and the other one -> cryptical envelopment -> cosmic charlie -> casey jones -> good lovin (with a really wild driving jam on a track i normally can skip) stretch is insane. trying to make it through every dp on spotify. what a great time to be a dead fan.

oiocha, Saturday, 15 September 2018 03:54 (two months ago) Permalink

i was a mayer skeptic for a long time but saw them at citi and thought he did a great job of largely taking a backseat while injecting some (relative) youth and energy into the lineup. he really killed the guitar on help -> slip -> franklin and his voice works pretty well on bluesier stuff like hurts me too. it's taken them some time to find their groove together but i'm feeling this tour a lot.

You’re taking the piss right

calstars, Saturday, 15 September 2018 04:05 (two months ago) Permalink

i think that now i'm easing closer to middle age i'm gonna get super into the dead, just feels right imo

gbx, Saturday, 15 September 2018 20:06 (two months ago) Permalink

i found my two favorite dick's picks at the record shoppe, vols 3 and 4 just sitting there right next to each other :)

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 15 September 2018 20:52 (two months ago) Permalink

i think that now i'm easing closer to middle age i'm gonna get super into the dead, just feels right imo

this has been me over the last 2 weeks. 45 was the magic number as it turns out.

Dicks Picks 3 has been in constant rotation

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 16 September 2018 05:15 (two months ago) Permalink


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