Elvis Costello: Classic or Dud

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His vocal on Watch Your Step is one of his best.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link

possibly nieve's most measured and beautiful piano/organ

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

my 50yo Fall-mad housemate played me his 'my aim is true' LP the other night. it took a few goes round, but its such a fun album!

meaulnes, Friday, 6 July 2018 11:39 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

New album with the Imposters coming. I like the two songs he shared this week.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link

Under Lime being the better of the two.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

yeah Under Lime is a great song; haven't liked his stuff for quite some time. However, the album cover is in the running for the worst cover of all fucking time.

akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

Scroll past the bellend 2001 posts

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 23:07 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/ode-to-elvis-costellos-stellar-backing-bands-the-attractions-the-imposters-invisible-hits/

Thanks for this tylerw. Great to see Nieve and the Thomases get their due. That Rockpalast show is incredible.

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 October 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

the rockpalast show has probably the definitive version of "the beat"

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 October 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

Well it turns out that “Under Lime” might be the only song on the new album that I like.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 22 October 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link

sounded good, the album, but the tempos are too slow and the trademark ec melodies a little too fussy.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 October 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link

need to give the new one a little more time, but i like that it doesn't sound like EC is coasting — some interesting moves/arrangements.

tylerw, Monday, 22 October 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link

Could be the best album since All This Useless Beauty. But then again When I Was Cruel with 20 minutes shaved off it would be really something

PaulTMA, Monday, 22 October 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link

What would your 40 min ‘When I Was Cruel’ look like? Have to agree it drags on a bit.

Got ‘Look Now’, it’s good. No idea how it holds up to his recent material as the only other EC record I’ve bought since ‘When I Was Cruel’ was ‘Wise Up Ghost’, which I remember liking but haven’t gone back to much.

michaellambert, Monday, 22 October 2018 23:06 (five years ago) link

I think this is his best album in a while, but I don't love it.

akm, Monday, 22 October 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Current tour setlists look awesome, I wished I caught him here last week.

"All this Useless Beauty" (listening this morning) is such a nice collection of songs, I wish less of it was so mannered. I remember the tour behind it (the last as the Attractions). It came to Chicago the same night as the big Sex Pistols reunion, but I was all, fuck that, I want to see the Attractions again. But even the show was kind of mannered, so I guess EC was just in a mannered mode.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link

A mannered out of time.

(Open gole, soz)

Mark G, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

It came to Chicago the same night as the big Sex Pistols reunion

Weird, I don't remember those being on the same night. I'd seen Elvis with Steve Nieve a few months prior, which was pretty wonderful.

The Pistols played a fine show, but the Aragon was crazy oversold. They shoehorned what felt like an additional 500-1000 people in there, and it was really uncomfortable and annoying.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

Yeah, EC played at the Rosemont Theatre. Maybe it was the night the Pistols came back? The second reunion show? I think I saw that EC& Nieve show, too, either at the Park West or the I think the Cadillac Palace Theatre (both of which were EC&Nieve nights).

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

has he ever played "Opportunity" live? did he not play a lot of Get Happy when it came out?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link

I think I saw that EC& Nieve show, too, either at the Park West or the I think the Cadillac Palace Theatre (both of which were EC&Nieve nights).

I saw the one at Park West, and it was a perfectly intimate atmosphere for that show.

I...don't know what the Cadillac Palace Theatre is...(looks it up)...oh shit! That was the Bismarck! I saw Frankie Goes To Hollywood there in '84.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

XP

There is a live version from 1979 prior to the recording of Get Happy. The 1980 tour could be a weird one, lots of cover versions jostling with old favourites as well as songs from GH and AF.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

He opened with Opportunity when I first saw him in 1996.

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link

is that 1979 live version on youtube?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link

would love to see that, opportunity is my favorite get happy track

twin sinema (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

XP - Not quite what you're looking for but kinda interesting, a rough and ready version from '79, it's well known that EC had grown wary of stylistically repeating himself with the new songs he'd been writing and rolling out on the AF tour, so this version is before they changed the arrangements which made them more beholden to older soul music.

https://youtu.be/wuTcUvsdWiQ?t=24m28s

MaresNest, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 00:44 (five years ago) link

Oh and check out the version of High Fidelity too, it is kinda insane.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 00:47 (five years ago) link

holy shit this heavy version of Opportunity is incredible, thank you!!!

flappy bird, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 01:06 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

So I just now see that Steve Nieve had been doing online Facebook shows at home with his son and wife. Today, they have Elvis Costello on zoom or something, and they just collaborated on "45" and on "13 Steps." Nieve is gonna take a break after today, and then resume it in 3 days or so.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 May 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

Costello is proposing they do a longer set together next Saturday May 9 and include songs he hasn't sung before.

Now Steve Nieve is doing a Johnny Cash song "25 Minutes to go" by himself on piano. His son (?) sometimes joins on drums. Son also sang Green Day "21" with Steve N on piano, after Steve N did a music hall /broadway type take on Alice Cooper "18."

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 May 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

I've watched that before, after having been led there by EC's recommendation. I thought his French wife was playing the drums, at least when I was tuned in.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 May 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

She was just working the camera today and emceeing. Or did Costello say Sunday for next week? Not sure . I guess details will be out by the end of the week on one of their Facebook pages.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 May 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

googling tells me her name is Muriel Teodori, and her son does music under the name A.J.U Q. He was also sharing this on his Instagram live

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 May 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I wish it was just Costello (singing from Vancouver) and Naive (in France?) on these Facebook lives from Naive's page . Son's voice is too bombastic, and Teoderi is just kinda annoying. Costello singing Roy Acuff, Psychedelic Furs, and Pogues "A Pair of Brown Eyes" was nice, as long as the son and Mom weren't involved

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 May 2020 04:10 (three years ago) link

Costello doing “It’s All over now Baby blue” with just his acoustic guitar also was nice .

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 May 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

Nieve is proper spelling , oops

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 May 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

I once had a copy of one of Nieve's (very out of print) solo albums that had iirc a jazzy piano take on "Ghost Town." You can hear it and a lot of other stuff here:

https://soundcloud.com/steve-nieve-official/sets/keyboard-jungle-and-a

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 May 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

That was yesterday? The Color Tour or something, which they were going to try last weekend but had technical difficulties because of a storm or something?

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 May 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link

I had heard a rumor over the summer they were coming back to NYC but then it didn't happen they stayed in Vancouver, yeah.

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 May 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I found one of his solely albums last year.

Oh, and he has spelled it "Naive" and "Nieve" over the years. Neither are his real surname..

Mark G, Monday, 18 May 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7aQtVfB-88

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 June 2020 04:34 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I've been listening to IMPERIAL BEDROOM for a week and become temporarily obsessed with 'You Little Fool'.

Then I discovered that it had a proper early 1980s POP VIDEO.

https://youtu.be/RYmVfF3WX_Q

the pinefox, Friday, 19 June 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

i've spent time obsessed with every song on the album, even 'boy with a problem'

ACABincalifornia (voodoo chili), Friday, 19 June 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

That's good to hear !

the pinefox, Friday, 19 June 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

Love that album to bits. But I stopped paying attention to EC a long time ago and don't have any interest in anymore. Is there a thread where we talk about albums in our personal pantheon by artists that we no longer care for?

Boring, Maryland, Friday, 19 June 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

Oh crap, there's another one, and it looks like I created it. Sheesh.

Should I decide that I just can't keep up with Mr MacManus?

lol this is the point in the thread where I once again lament that there are only maybe 20 Elvis Costello albums (including three great b-sides and rarities collections) I would immediately put on with no reservations, plus a couple of live albums and other comps (like Girls, Girls Girls, which is its own thing), but maybe 6 or so albums that are only OK or a little boring. What a hack, right?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 June 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

Everything you say is true, JiC, but I just want to put it out there that North is actually colossally boring.

(For me it may be more like 10 albums My Aim Is True, Punch the Clock, All This Useless Beauty, Almost Blue, King of America, Kojak Variety, Spike, Brutal Youth, When I Was Cruel, maybe?)


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