definitely, especially since a lot of the rumors of his discontent were before the public comments. i don't take everything coming out of the kawhi camp at face value.
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link
The Spurs are fully engaged in trade talks with several teams on Kawhi Leonard, including the Lakers and Celtics, league sources tell ESPN. Boston has long had the assets that the Spurs most covet in a potential Leonard trade.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 28, 2018
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link
Rumblings of a Godfather Lakers offer for San Antonio's Kawhi Leonard have rival teams wondering if anyone else can compete here. The latest summer of LeBron has officially begun...— Sam Amick (@sam_amick) June 28, 2018
GET THE MOTHERFUCKING FARM, POP AND RC
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
i dont think the lakers have a godfather offer tho
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link
if lonzo somehow ends up on the Spurs that would interest me
― ciderpress, Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link
lonzo seems like a great spur. his dad otoh...
and yeah lagoon otm, if anyone is capable of making the godfather offer it's boston. though not sure they should
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
wld be funny if they traded hayward tho for him lol
So @stephenasmith just said on @FirstTake that LeBron texted Kevin Durant about going to LA. LEGGGGOOOOOOO— Pablo S. Torre (@PabloTorre) June 28, 2018
― Hall of Fam (Spottie), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
― k3vin k., Thursday, June 28, 2018 12:44 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i cld be wrong but i dont think theyll deal horford or hayward cause that hurts their credibility with future big free agents, kyrie tho...
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link
just gonna lay it all on the table here i want them to trade kyrie for kawhi so the celtics can have a complete starting lineup of 6-8 guys
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
i need to see it
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link
its the culmination of the small ball era: mid ball
wing ball
― Hall of Fam (Spottie), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
kyrie or ingram + kuz?
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link
(celtics have much better draft picks to offer if it comes down to that)
This doesn't guarantee Kawhi Leonard is going to the Lakers this week -- since San Antonio could always trade him elsewhere and/or drag things out -- but league sources say of the Spurs: "They're ready" to move on from Kawhi— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 28, 2018
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link
what a world
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link
i think weve officially exited the "superstars dont change teams very often" era
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link
If kawhi has accomplished one goal, it would be making himself untenable to the spurs, so that their trading him seems inevitable. then, too, making sure the whole league knows kawhi wants to go to LA will scare off a lot of potential dance partners, upping the chances LA will get him.
and the only cost to kawhi has been totally shredding his reputation by making him look sullen, petulant, badly injured, and a very risky bet for any team wanting to give him a long-term max contract. success!
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link
this could get more interesting if there's a deal in principle and his medicals start getting shared
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, June 28, 2018 12:57 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
feel like the spurs might prefer kyrie as the lakers deal is really a rebuilding move
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
and the celtics as they are worried abt kyrie leaving next year anyway maybe wldnt even care about getting a commitment from kawhi
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
kyrie plus the SAC pick gets it done for me. can draft a future piece next year and continue being competitive this year.
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link
i kinda dont see the celtics throwing in either the sac or mem pick w kyrie, unless maybe if they were confident kawhi is fully healthy and he agrees to an extension
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
prob not, but spurs won't make that deal straight up
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
cld see kyrie + a celtics pick or a lesser young dude something like that
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
Potential offer sheet target for Indiana Pacers' anticipated https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/10123832431009751040M-plus in salary cap space, league sources tell ESPN: Orlando Magic restricted free agent forward Aaron Gordon.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 28, 2018
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
nice, nate duncan and those guys had gordon to the pacers in their mock offseason
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link
dude Lonzo to SA would be awesome
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, June 28, 2018 1:26 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah
Players have more freedom comparatively
But also two current factors we may not always have: a bunch of gms unafraid to let their nuts hang (ainge Morey presti etc); and the sheer gravity of lebron free agency
― gritty tigger reboot (agent hibachi), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link
+dubs dominance
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
dubs broke the league
― ciderpress, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/06/28/reports-spurs-want-celtics-all-in-for-kawhi-leonard-trade-talks-boston-slow-playing-it/
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link
as a Fan I don't want any part of this mess
― ciderpress, Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
bless this mess
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link
man i think there is a *lot* of bad info being reported.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link
well, i mean someone out here is going to be wrong about somethingis the opt-out deadline at midnight tonight or tomorrow?
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link
"Who the Spurs want to get deeply involved with is the Boston Celtics." what a way to make a living.
― scopin' VARs (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link
i mean its obvious celtics got the best assets but its also obv they dont want to pay market for nothing bc DEALS
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link
they also won’t pay market because kawhi is damaged goods.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link
shhhh he's probably fine
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link
even at 90% he's better than anyone on the celtics currently
another aspect to the whole Kawhi thing i just considered and correct me if i'm wrong on some points: that while the public didn't know it, it's likely that the team probably knew that Pop's wife was battling an illness that was likely going to take her life, and through all this he was coaching and handling the team, and Kawhi's absence and weirdness would be even worse in the context of all that, especially with Pop being a genuinely beloved guy and player's coach; Kawhi just acting in a way that was making Pop's professional life more difficult while his personal life was causing him ridiculous amounts of stress.
― omar little, Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
it would also explain a bit more a lot of the snappiness directed at Kawhi from certain guys, idk though, it's just speculation.
v v possible. altho nothing ive read indicates that kawhi had any beef with pop specifically, that most of his ire is with the org as a whole/med staff. but def fucked up.
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link
You say you want my trust and told me you were leavin'How am I to know that you won't do it to meYour tellin' me its different but what the hell is differentIf you cheated on pop you'll do it to me
― scopin' VARs (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link
From the outside looking in, Kawhi's uncle Dennis seems like a big problem ... like maybe bigger than Lavar? What do you think, bise?
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link
that the spurs would be asking for a ton for kawhi and that the celtics would be trying to offer significantly less than that just seems like... normal trade negotiations to me?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:14 (five years ago) link
of course, which is why articles about how the spurs really wish the celtics would put their best and final on the table are funny.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, June 28, 2018 6:05 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the narrative from Extremely Hurt Spurs Fans is that kawhi's uncle is pulling the strings and influencing kawhi so they can all live it up back home in socal. i don't think that kawhi would be passing up all this money* unless he really didn't want to be here. he's losing at least ~$30M by not signing this supermax extension, and if he gets traded to [non-LA team x] and signs with some other teams, that's another tens of millions of dollars he's passing up (which i why i think celtics should seriously consider taking on kawhi and then if he wants to leave, get some sign and trade stuff coming back their way. if he doesn't, yay for them).
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link