Drinking In L.A. * Steal My Sunshine * In The Meantime * Get What You Give * Novocaine For The Soul

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The Eels song that fits musically but obvs ironically is 'Beautiful Day'

The clown with the frown
Drivin' down to the sidewalk fair
Finger on the trigger
Let me tell you it is quite a scare

etc.

nashwan, Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:41 (five years ago) link

something v post-Beck about this aesthetic

Dark Mavis (Michael B), Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:55 (five years ago) link

you get what you give >>>>

not sure i understand the parameters of this aesthetic

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:09 (five years ago) link

Gonna try to nail this aesthetic as:

- period of roughly '94 - 2000 with some exceptions
- funky/hip-hop influenced pop/rock but not firmly entrenched in any particular camp
- usually a one or two-hit wonder
- more of ten than not contains some lo-pass filter radio chatter or speakover
- could be American, but sounds more like people copying US music and getting it a bit wrong (even if they do turn out to be American)

how does this account for the two power pop songs in the poll

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:10 (five years ago) link

we should honestly do a full 90s one-hit wonder poll

Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:13 (five years ago) link

if we could ever finish arguing about who/what qualifies

Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:13 (five years ago) link

For some reason the inclusion of "In The Meantime" made me think of Letters to Cleo's "Here & Now". So I went to youtube to watch the latter song, and what was the suggested next clip? "In The Meantime". So then I loaded that and what was the next suggested clip? "You Get What You Give".

Of course Spacehog also makes me think of Boss Hog's "Whiteout" which in turn makes me think of Ruby's "Tiny Meat". So basically I am bad at this game.

Tim F, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:26 (five years ago) link

God I hate these songs. 'Steal My Sunshine' is probably the only one I could stand to listen to without hitting something, so that one.

emil.y, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link

if it was played regularly on radio 2 in the daytime then it doesn't belong here. see: New Radicals

(This may partially explain my hatred of it)

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link

Cake, How Bizarre and Scooby Snacks def fit though

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link

we should honestly do a full 90s one-hit wonder poll

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link

Heaven is a Halfpipe belongs so clearly here I had to check it was a different song from Steal my Sunshine

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:44 (five years ago) link

how does this account for the two power pop songs in the poll

― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, June 28, 2018 1:10 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I backtracked a bit on a previous post about the initial selection, which was picked before I really thought about it. I definitely think these are part of a wider constellation but Drinking, Steal, Bizarre, Susan's House, Loser, Scooby Snacks all seem to be quintessential. Dunno, this is really a bit of nostalgic fun for the '98 4 lyf crew

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:47 (five years ago) link

kind of weird selection. doesn't seem like a genre unless "came out in the 90s" in a genre.

i dont place "In the Meantime" next to "Steal My Sunshine". the former felt like a 90s indie rock take on Bowie glam, the latter like classic bubblegum pop. i loved "Meantime" so much when that came out but nowadays probably prefer "Sunshine". that loop is so fun to listen to.

i never understood the critical pants wetting over New Radicals. that band/song is entirely forgettable.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link

i have no idea where Spacehog are from. It seems to be the kind of song you either know and love or have never ever heard of

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link

Heaven Is A Halfpipe otm

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link

or opm, whatever

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:53 (five years ago) link

From Wiki:

Spacehog is an English rock band formed in 1994 in New York City.

so perfect

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:54 (five years ago) link

they're from LEEDS ffs

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:56 (five years ago) link

spagehog are originally from leeds.
and the opening of that track was used in a phone advert for years in the uk, hence the inbuilt animosity for many people.

xpost !

mark e, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link

(one of my mates had moved from Leeds and I think this was partly responsible for us playing it for like the entire year)

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link

what about White Town, 'Your Woman'? It's a bit English, and not the sunniest of songs but it has that phone-crackle '98 hip-poppy vibe going.

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link

one of spacehog married Liv Tyler
#spacehogfacts

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link

that lfo one posted above for sure. am I imagining it oe did it stand for Lyte Funky Ones

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:02 (five years ago) link

that Bloodhound Gang one too. God that was awful

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link

drinking in la is a great song

call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link

re space hog : lead singers brother then tried to cash in on the family z-list celeb status by forming kidsymphony.
got a 5 track promo ep, not sure the full album was ever released.

#spacehogfacts

mark e, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:07 (five years ago) link

weren't both brothers in Spacehog? or was there another one

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link

I backtracked a bit on a previous post about the initial selection

that’ll teach me to read the whole thread

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:12 (five years ago) link

In 2010, Spacehog guitarist Antony Langdon gained notoriety for his role in the controversial mockumentary starring Joaquin Phoenix I'm Still Here. Langdon, who was one of Phoenix's assistants as well as a musical partner, staged a falling-out with the actor during the documentary's filming and is shown defecating on the troubled actor in retaliation for an earlier argument.

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:13 (five years ago) link

weren't both brothers in Spacehog? or was there another one

another one - Christian Langdon

and checked, other then the 5 track promo ep, the album was never released.

mark e, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:15 (five years ago) link

that’ll teach me to read the whole thread

― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, June 28, 2018 2:12 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's cool - we're all busy :-)
(evidently)

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:17 (five years ago) link

None of these songs have anything in common. Anyway, “Steal My Sunshine” rules.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link

Smash Mouth - All Star

i mean now I'm just listing the worst songs ever recorded

there's only so far you can go with this vibe before it evolves into nu-metal/ Blink 182 landfill

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link

that lfo one posted above for sure. am I imagining it oe did it stand for Lyte Funky Ones

― kinder, Thursday, June 28, 2018 1:02 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark

oh god I think you might be right

Neil S, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link

here's another stinker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FEDrU85FLE

Neil S, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link

something v post-Beck about this aesthetic

My two nostalgic favourite post-Beck-type minor alternative hits from this era: Naked Eye by Luscious Jackson and Hand in Your Head by Money Mark.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link

Post-Beck is a pretty otm name. Commercial, vaguely ironic music that signals it's aware of hip hop.

Chris L, Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link

i probably meant Walking on the Sun by smash mouth, not All Star.

haven't heard that Money Mark track in years! Going down a nostalgia hole right now.

Marcy playground etc

kinder, Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link

These are all songs about being young and unsure of what to make of life.

The two first songs feel like pivotal moments in my teenage years. Have too many good memories attached to both and the nostalgia goggles wont let me hear them separate from those memories. Maybe they actually suck for someone hearing them for the first time, trying my best to hear them with fresh ears I can only gather all of the nominees are some weird one hit wonders even for the late 90’s.

I think I have to go with Len, I love the sample and the delivery.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:33 (five years ago) link

would like to refer everyone itt to this excellent blog http://pre-durst-blog.tumblr.com/

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link

Another post-beck hit I remember

butthole surfers - pepper

There should be separate thread for these, I feel like there’s plenty of examples out there.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link

I h-a-t-e-d the Young Radicals song – and I worked at VH1 at the time, so it played on a TV over my head 4-5 times a day.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

My two nostalgic favourite post-Beck-type minor alternative hits from this era: Naked Eye by Luscious Jackson and Hand in Your Head by Money Mark.


hell yeah

in a similar vein in my mind at least, folk implosion’s ‘natural one’

Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

<3 Money Mark. that song was on both his first and second albums but in different iterations

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link

None of these songs have anything in common. Anyway, “Steal My Sunshine” rules.

― i’m still stanning (morrisp)

Theme-wise they’re all about procrastination and depression.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link

Sadly I can't find Money Mark on spotty

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link

these songs are all a lot of fun, except Novocaine which I fucking despise, but "You Get What You Give" is the runaway winner here. Pure euphoria, would've been a hit in any decade, not sure if I could say that about the rest.

Also briefly considered Steal My Sunshine and In The Meantime, but the vocals and songwriting don't compare.

paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

Happily Surprised at how many people here like Hand in Your Head, I never hear it mentioned anywhere.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

Apparently Royston Langdon is a bigwig at Spotify now

paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 June 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link

The first three did get heavy airplay in Mexico don’t know about the US. Spacehog and Eels didn’t get any at all and I only knew about them by watching MTV’s 120 minutes (don’t know if you had that in the US but it was 2 hours of alt music including electronica and hip hop that didn’t get usual airplay from them)

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

I don’t remember watching the novocaine video though, I remember one with a singing carrot... “last stop this town”?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link

Yeah! You got it Moka

Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link

Not many singles from electro shock. Last stop and cancer for the cure was in American beauty but the industrial noise intro pretty much guaranteed it was a non single.

Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link

I was just in a shop where the Cardigans’ “Lovefool” staeted playing, and it seemed to fit the vibe of these selections in a certain way.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

I could see that

Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

i actually listened to the one citizen king album they put out. it's like beck except not good. anyways one of the members went on to mix j dilla records and the lead dude became an electroclash guy (mount sims)

just want to drop this useless knowledge

hackshaw, Monday, 2 July 2018 00:02 (five years ago) link

this lesser-known Swedish pop-rap hit is definitely part of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf8MR-EnSho

Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Monday, 2 July 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

classic UK examples

Mint Royale - Don't Falter
Five - Keep on Movin'
Ronan Keating - Life Is a Rollercoaster
Terrorvision - Tequila

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link

the first of those is on many of my playlists, the others never will be.

ledge, Thursday, 19 January 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link

"Life is a rollercoaster" does not belong

kinder, Thursday, 19 January 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link

cept it does

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 19 January 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link

explain

kinder, Thursday, 19 January 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link

well why not? Strong summery feel + upbeat but bittersweet (the latter an angle ever-accelerated by nostalgia) + somewhat ethereal production (Gregg Alexander). Fits this sort of thing to a tee I'd say.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:18 (one year ago) link

I getcha but needs at least a modicum of funky 'tude as well which Ronan doesn't have

well, that's patently untrue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mok8NznlEEE

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Friday, 20 January 2023 10:28 (one year ago) link

okay i take it back


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