2018 NBA OFFSEASON

game sort of passed faried by. tough to be a big guy who can’t pass shoot or play defense in today’s game

yeah that's fair, plus i guess he relied on energy and explosion so much which have prob withered some w/ time

Kuzma, Ingram, Hart and two-first round picks for Kawhi … WHO SAYS NO?

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 28, 2018

the elephant in the room is kawhi playing only 9 games last season due to a leg injury of unknown provenance

+being a team killer

+you could sign him as a free agent in one year

+being a team killer

― sprout god (lag∞n)

if the spurs are actually culpable for any of this bs kawhis camp should have leaked details by now

Ok good I’m not the only one who would be extremely nervous about acquiring kawhi

There’s some chance he’s just never that good again right

missing a full season for any injury other than a broken bone is nagl

also kawhi is 27 tomorrow. happy birthday

Do we know for sure that the injury kept him off the court and not whatever behind the scenes aggro with the team?

I remember Parker and Ginobili intimating that he was healthy enough to play

Either way, nagl. I think he’ll never be the same.

Boston is allowed to trade for only one player (Kyrie Irving)

re: the injury, if you buy what kawhi's camp and doctors say, the spurs med staff misdiagnosed his injury as tendinopathy when it's actually ossification and therefore requires a totally different treatment, including more rest than what tony parker had (who DID have tendinopathy). so, if that's right, the spurs may have risked exacerbating his injury and isaiah thomasing him into getting re-injured before a contract year. if that's true, and various spurs reps were taking your injury news as basically made up or exaggerated or whatever, you might be kinda pissed and feel betrayed

+you could sign him as a free agent in one year

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, June 28, 2018 1:53 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not necessarily. if LAL gets 2 max dudes this summer, they're capped out. if they can trade for him they can add 2 FAs plus him plus a bunch of minimum contracts.

Sources on ESPN: Oklahoma City Thunder star Paul George informs franchise that he is not opting into final year of his contract and will become an unrestricted free agent. https://t.co/skRquzhnjb

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 28, 2018

heyooo

lets get messy

re: the injury, if you buy what kawhi's camp and doctors say, the spurs med staff misdiagnosed his injury as tendinopathy when it's actually ossification and therefore requires a totally different treatment, including more rest than what tony parker had (who DID have tendinopathy). so, if that's right, the spurs may have risked exacerbating his injury and isaiah thomasing him into getting re-injured before a contract year. if that's true, and various spurs reps were taking your injury news as basically made up or exaggerated or whatever, you might be kinda pissed and feel betrayed

― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, June 28, 2018 7:18 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that makes a certain amount of sense but at the same time i feel like the Spurs are so good at handling things normally that there's something iffy about how Kawhi and co. handled this, like his insistence on going to L.A. specifically vs merely wanting off the Spurs makes me feel as though he was both checked out and he had eyes for L.A. long before all this. My thought is the team kind of knew or had hints of this in some way and their frustration started to boil over.

def a weird smell

definitely, especially since a lot of the rumors of his discontent were before the public comments. i don't take everything coming out of the kawhi camp at face value.

The Spurs are fully engaged in trade talks with several teams on Kawhi Leonard, including the Lakers and Celtics, league sources tell ESPN. Boston has long had the assets that the Spurs most covet in a potential Leonard trade.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 28, 2018

Rumblings of a Godfather Lakers offer for San Antonio's Kawhi Leonard have rival teams wondering if anyone else can compete here. The latest summer of LeBron has officially begun...

— Sam Amick (@sam_amick) June 28, 2018

GET THE MOTHERFUCKING FARM, POP AND RC

i dont think the lakers have a godfather offer tho

if lonzo somehow ends up on the Spurs that would interest me

lonzo seems like a great spur. his dad otoh...

and yeah lagoon otm, if anyone is capable of making the godfather offer it's boston. though not sure they should

wld be funny if they traded hayward tho for him lol

So @stephenasmith just said on @FirstTake that LeBron texted Kevin Durant about going to LA. LEGGGGOOOOOOO

— Pablo S. Torre (@PabloTorre) June 28, 2018

wld be funny if they traded hayward tho for him lol

― k3vin k., Thursday, June 28, 2018 12:44 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i cld be wrong but i dont think theyll deal horford or hayward cause that hurts their credibility with future big free agents, kyrie tho...

just gonna lay it all on the table here i want them to trade kyrie for kawhi so the celtics can have a complete starting lineup of 6-8 guys

i need to see it

its the culmination of the small ball era: mid ball

wing ball

kyrie or ingram + kuz?

(celtics have much better draft picks to offer if it comes down to that)

This doesn't guarantee Kawhi Leonard is going to the Lakers this week -- since San Antonio could always trade him elsewhere and/or drag things out -- but league sources say of the Spurs: "They're ready" to move on from Kawhi

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 28, 2018

what a world

i think weve officially exited the "superstars dont change teams very often" era

If kawhi has accomplished one goal, it would be making himself untenable to the spurs, so that their trading him seems inevitable. then, too, making sure the whole league knows kawhi wants to go to LA will scare off a lot of potential dance partners, upping the chances LA will get him.

and the only cost to kawhi has been totally shredding his reputation by making him look sullen, petulant, badly injured, and a very risky bet for any team wanting to give him a long-term max contract. success!

this could get more interesting if there's a deal in principle and his medicals start getting shared

kyrie or ingram + kuz?

― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, June 28, 2018 12:57 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel like the spurs might prefer kyrie as the lakers deal is really a rebuilding move

and the celtics as they are worried abt kyrie leaving next year anyway maybe wldnt even care about getting a commitment from kawhi

kyrie plus the SAC pick gets it done for me. can draft a future piece next year and continue being competitive this year.

i kinda dont see the celtics throwing in either the sac or mem pick w kyrie, unless maybe if they were confident kawhi is fully healthy and he agrees to an extension

prob not, but spurs won't make that deal straight up

cld see kyrie + a celtics pick or a lesser young dude something like that

Potential offer sheet target for Indiana Pacers' anticipated https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/10123832431009751040M-plus in salary cap space, league sources tell ESPN: Orlando Magic restricted free agent forward Aaron Gordon.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 28, 2018

nice, nate duncan and those guys had gordon to the pacers in their mock offseason

dude Lonzo to SA would be awesome

i think weve officially exited the "superstars dont change teams very often" era

― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, June 28, 2018 1:26 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah

Players have more freedom comparatively

But also two current factors we may not always have: a bunch of gms unafraid to let their nuts hang (ainge Morey presti etc); and the sheer gravity of lebron free agency

+dubs dominance