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the category of whiteness was created to allow the enforcement of racism against people who aren't white, and the category persists, so it's not unreasonable to accurately describe yourself as being in that category. But yeah if you feel any kind of dare I say "pride" or even "affinity" about being white you are probably a Nazi

(same with the category of "men", and sexism, tbh [controp ])

I'm starting to feel like self-identifying as 'white' is basically a hate crime of sorts.

a white person saying ‘i don’t identify as white’ is p cringed idk

cringey*

I geddit. There's a thin line between that and 'not all men' except, like I say, 'whiteness' is more ideological than strictly descriptive. Feels like one can identify as, say, being of Western European origin and acknowledge one's status as a beneficiary of a white nationalist hegemony while still refusing to self-identify as 'white'.

surprised nobody's mentioned that the controp is no controp exists

lads

it’s been a stressful week deems

I'm white btw

self-identity is one thing. have a blast w it. call yourself whatever you want in your own house, or in private, or among your friends.

but stepping into the real world of other people that don't live in your bubble... that is a different story.

hmmmmm

idg how it would work if you got pulled over by the cops. i guess you get the benefits from outward appearance all the while secretly thinking "hahah jokes on them i don't identify as the kind of person who gets these benefits i am getting right now"

tbh if I see Americans identifying themselves as of “Western European origin” that’s more of a red flag than “white”.

otm

saying you're white if you're white is fine

but lotsa people, not just racists, use white (or "non-white") as a way of implying that whiteness is the norm, or the default, which is obvs definitely not fine

The notion I propose would, I think, have to be a pretty overtly and vocally political act, not just a matter of circling 'other' on a form and smugly grinning at your cleverness. Totally get the qualms about talking up European origin, as well (immediately calls to mind the naming conventions of the Palin clan et al). It's about a whole lot more than just saying the words and seamlessly returning to your world of bountiful privilege, is what I'm saying here.

ah for god's sake will ye stop

Look, I'm just doing what the thread title told me to do, my dude.

i know i know have at it.

controp: when yr football team is twelve goals down the ref should send everyone home early

they have that rule in uhh recreational softball, I don't think anyone minds

twouldve improved my mood tonight is all

I'm white btw

As a sheet.

i think rattlesnakes encountered in a metro public open space with [debatable traffic level, something like 'regular, hourly traffic'] should be killed summarily by park employees. To discourage visitors seeking to encounter or kill snakes, killing by a visitor would be subject to a [debatable amount] fine.

Now I want to know what the other side of this controversy is. I guess it involves trapping and releasing rattlesnakes?

we should totally release the rattlesnakes, into hospitals and schools

It's only just.

It’s the only way to revitalise the stale whacking day tradition

lol

silby i think it's basically mtb-y, youngish, hardman-y newbs to our trailsystem getting hyper "deal with it" about buzzworms. and i would agree with them that robust local ecosystems are very desirable.

and most commentary on forums is more funny "loook at this snek from my day out" stuff. but i'm like, not into getting bit by a snake, and while i do understand the risks of actual backcountry, i also know with all the new people in town, there's dogs and new user groups in the local parks. https://www.5280.com/2017/11/front-range-fraught-rattlesnakes/

I like how your local glossy magazine's url is all numbers like a Chinese casino

"We’ll monitor it and if everybody [referring to the rattlesnakes] goes to bed, we’ll open it early."

A+ use of editorial brackets here

"goes to BED?! goes to a terrifying nest of vipers is more like it!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERMA1NLFh2k

not sure where to post this but here it goes

so i'm watching the calgary stampede and i like it and i also love horses

i'm watching the chuckwagon races and i find it entertaining but i know so many of these horses get put under incredible amount of stress and many die or have to be euthanized

i feel kind of sad about it? i have mixed feelings i guess

like i sometimes daydream about having a little space outside the city with a horse or two to just get away and treat them right because they're such beautiful creatures

i remember when i was younger i'd go to the pne and watch the horse demonstration and the pacific spirit horse show in the agrodome and thought they were pretty amazing

I feel lucky that the local Oregon rattlesnakes are among the more shy and retiring of venomous pit vipers. Taken as a whole, they just want us all to get along.

when I'm out in the country (almost always on bike) and I meet a couple or a group on horses, I enjoy greeting the horses when appropriate. Broke horses, like tame dogs, have social understanding that commands sympathetic consideration from me. I guess all horses should get my sympathy, but seeing the awareness between horses and riders has an odd next-level effect on me.

horses, like dogs, develop a trust relationship with their owners/riders, because they are social animals who instinctively follow their leaders. when asked to sacrifice themselves, they will trust their leader and give until they give out. it's wretched of people to abuse this trust by asking for their horses full measure of sacrifice, all in the name of winning a stupid meaningless 'chuck wagon race'.

Agree on the treatment of social animals. oddly I think one reason I have a strong cat allegiance is that they are highly social, but not strongly hierarchical to any household order. theyre just people in your space really.

some are a-holes. but the best are the best people I know.

re rattlers, fuck no, they are alien. controp

Ya I don’t mind killing/eating those guys

a place near my office has amazing klapperschlange soup. It's spicy and delicious.

Social media, including ilx, should shut down whenever there is an extended heatwave. Pretty much everywhere is getting like Do the Right Thing.

Or perhaps I should log out and read a book.

The first seven words would have sufficed imo

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there are no bad obsidian sarcophagus jokes

that can be remedied in a hurry

people who identify as asexuals desserve more respect and visibility in our more sex positive times...

Have there been any self identified asexual characters/people out in the mainstream? I can only think of Todd from Bojack.

Stephen Fry, but he's married now so I'm assuming he isn't claiming to be asexual any more.

Hmmm. One can be in a romantic relationship without wanting sex.

True. I'm not sure that's what's going on with Stephen Fry, but who knows?

And who cares, is more to the point where Stephen Fry is concerned.

back in the day morrissey and boy george! not not with each other obv