xp this thread is a different, older thread than the thread about the guy from Tool (where the "he did nothing wrong" stuff was coming from)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link
ah, thanks. i was thinking specifically of this comment on the maynard reddit thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/ToolBand/comments/8trvn3/woman_on_twitter_accuses_maynard_of_sexually/e1a50qc/
Passes for Maynard are different than the normal backstage pass for the show. A couple examples I can think of (and one I own that I received personally when they were out of normal ones) has a collage of women in KISS makeup sucking dick or other sexual acts. An APC one had a picture of Maynard in Roman garb that said "Have you serviced your gladiator today?" or something similar. There are no illusions about what you are there for.
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Maynard makes an appearance in the room, might make some chitchat, and then leaves. His security staff will then approach whichever 1 or 2 women that Maynard has selected for the night
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link
I was thinking more about accounts of former groupies in general (not necessarily Tool fans). I wonder whether redditors' reactions would be the same now.
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― pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link
yeah that comment is both a) gross and b) consistent with stories I've heard about other musicians
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link
most groupies aren't getting raped though. some people are just down to fuck a famous person.
― how's life, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link
some people are also in their teens
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link
As if (s)Tool couldn't be any more repulsive.
This is not surprising in the least, but reprehensible all the same.
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link
I won't be checking notifications or DMs here anymore. If Maynard James Keenan sexually assaulted you, please get in touch: cclipper✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧A few have already shared. The list is growing. #MeToo #TimesUp https://t.co/dtsKimQuLH— Iwas17HeWas36 (@IWas17HeWas36) June 27, 2018
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link
Fucking scumbag. He owns an osteria in my town (good pasta but I hated seeing his stupid po' face staring out at me from a wall of his books behind the bar) and a wine tasting room plus Puscifer shop in next town. Wonder if this it'll hurt them.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link
A line about the accusations had been added to the "Personal Life" section of his Wikipedia page when I checked it out earlier this week, but I see it has since been removed.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link
fuck men tbh
― stoker (Ross), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link
Maynard keeps it classy.
Many thanks to those of you who saw right through this despicable false claim that only does damage to the #metoo movement. And shame on those of you who perpetuate this destructive clickbait. As for my delayed but un-required response, I had my phone off. You should try it.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link
What an arrogant cunt.
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link
I’m sure JMK is a creep but those anonymous tweets are just her word against his. If that really happened she should go to the police, and the ex-bf could confirm his side of things.
As for the reddit post, as icky as it all sounds and big if true, , it doesn’t sound like sexual abuse? Makes it seem like they go there willingly and upright knowing it’s for sex.
I don’t doubt that it could all be true but really, not only tweet about it, go to the fucking authorites and sue this assholes.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link
Statute of limitations.
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link
Oh, that makes sense. Either way this way has toured all over the US and there are states where it’s up to 30 years for rape allegations. If he’s actually raped someone 20 years ago and got away with it, I suppose it wasn’t a one time thing.
I don’t know enough about US law but even if theres stature of limitations could her testimony help a more recent case against him?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link
Hrm. The whole thing is gross and sad but several people have pointed this out:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgwSiMKWsAAEWh5.jpg
So basically someone (also anonymous) responded to the Keenan accuser’s Twitter claiming they were raped by Trent Reznor in 1994. Thing is, both accounts were created within an hour of each other. And strangely the Reznor accuser’s account (which has no other tweets) was actually created just *before* the Keenan one.
After people started noticing this the Reznor accuser account deleted their comment. Not definitive proof but it seems fishy and indicates an attempt to create an impression of support and to sow further chaos.
I’ve heard rumblings about this being 4chan related—the Keenan account wasn’t noticed by most people for days but supposedly there was stuff about it in 4chan almost immediately after it went up. If you’re wondering about the kind of sick fucks who actually would go out of their way to set all this up, there’s your answer.
In any case it’s ugly business all around.
― latebloomer, Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link
Even if the allegations are false, Maynard's response couldn't be more defensive and dickish.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:47 (five years ago) link
^^^
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 29 June 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link
I mean that kind of shit destroys careers I’d be pretty mad too if I didn’t do it.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 29 June 2018 01:32 (five years ago) link
Maybe something more like: "I didn't do it. I never did anything like it. Nobody else will come forward with evidence that I did" would have been more appropriate.
― beard papa, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:10 (five years ago) link
Continuing to believe the victims, as always, but even if it’s not what’s going on here the idea of 4chan goons making false accusations to poison the well is so out of my frame of reference, and yet so immediately plausible as something they’d do, that I’m suddenly kind of nauseous.
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Friday, 29 June 2018 02:12 (five years ago) link
xpostsOr anything that didn’t make him sound guilty as f. Here’s the thing — if he has truly had as many “consensual” (or so he believed) backstage encounters as seems to be whispered/alleged, I bet he has been wondering if an allegation like this would surface at some point, and he’s sweating it now. Just conjecture, of course.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 29 June 2018 02:15 (five years ago) link
even if he did nothing wrong, he's a fucking moron at best if he thinks that statement was an appropriate response
― Simon H., Friday, 29 June 2018 02:48 (five years ago) link
michael gira is also a fucking tool
― stoker (Ross), Friday, 29 June 2018 02:54 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JWdh-F1xdQ
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
know who seems like he's never raped anyone and probably never will? that Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
― del griffith, Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link
TOOL EUROPE TOUR 2019
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link
New album August 30. They've been playing two new songs live.
Anybody feel like taking odds that their conspiracy-theory/Bill Hicks-superfan BS will have curdled into full-on Joe Rogan-ism? CTRL-F the lyrics for the word "snowflake" and I bet you come up a winner.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link
yeah pretty safe bet there'll be a "Hooker With a Penis II" but for bloggers
― Simon H., Wednesday, 8 May 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link
You could always listen to the Wheel album instead -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwzkhM0SRQ8
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link
what, new album already?
― StanM, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link
I still give Lateralus the occasional spin but it's about ten years too late for me to give that much of a shit about this one.
My prediction is that it will be acceptable but easily forgotten like the FNM reunion album
― like him hate us? Sure you are. Its in the cool aid. (ultros ultros-ghali), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link
wow that Wheel track really is Tool cosplay huh
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
all metal is cosplay tbf
― Simon H., Wednesday, 8 May 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link
Album has a title: Fear Inoculum
― octobeard, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 06:04 (four years ago) link
https://preview.redd.it/n4ftezr7x4e31.jpg?width=811&auto=webp&s=aa84b17bb0834927e22d9b9c83ac7222cdb0d42e
― StanM, Saturday, 3 August 2019 13:05 (four years ago) link
(just in case: it's a joke obv) - their 5 albums are all in the iTunes top 10 right now though: https://loudwire.com/tool-itunes-top-10-albums-songs/
― StanM, Saturday, 3 August 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link
"hilarious" joke
Anybody feel like taking odds that their conspiracy-theory/Bill Hicks-superfan BS will have curdled into full-on Joe Rogan-ism?
mjk was just on joe rogan
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 3 August 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link
He's been doing interviews with Rogan since at least 2013
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 3 August 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link
I mean these guys are pretty much scumbags no?definitely the dumbest/worst band that I like
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 3 August 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link
It's just the singer who is a roof, though. right?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 August 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link
doof, not roof. autocorrect!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 August 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link
Danny the drummer seems like a nice enough guy, totally based on this Youtube video tho'
― MaresNest, Saturday, 3 August 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link
"doof" might be...understating things
https://www.google.com/amp/s/consequenceofsound.net/2018/06/maynard-james-keenan-sexual-assault-allegations/
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 3 August 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link
Thought that was disproven?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 August 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link
I recall he issued a sneering denial, and there were some inconsistencies in the timeframe of the anonymous tweets, and that was the end of it.
― 60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Saturday, 3 August 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link
https://www.theprp.com/2018/06/29/news/suspicious-findings-suggest-anonymous-maynard-james-keenan-trent-reznor-rape-allegations-may-be-a-hoax/Nothing totally conclusive, but yeah
― circa1916, Saturday, 3 August 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link
Tbh I’m surprised there hasn’t been a rash of 4chan-y creeps making bogus accusations to intentionally muddy the waters for #metoo, but that’s for another thread.
― circa1916, Saturday, 3 August 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link