No Irish, No Yanks, No Clogs - FIFA World Cup 2018

you're right, they don't need video replay for goal line review, but they do need goal line tech.

yeah but that's an automatic decision. There's no interpretation involved

I mean I guess I'm just being a dick about agreeing with you

all i want to know is should i watch ESP or POR at 11pm BST or whenever the fuck the bbc platform finally crunches through the data and makes it available

pogba goal was goal line tech iirc

Only caught the last ten minutes but Spain v Morocco sounds like the better game.

Russia will probably do a Netherlands 2008-style number on Spain now while Portugal beat Uruguay 1-0 on pens.

def catch iran portugal it was super entertainment the whole second half

didi hamann all but wearing a beret slouched in an rte chair lazily lamenting what weve lost with var, the emotion in the moment the beauty of a wrong decision become truth itself on the flawed platform of a man in black inarguable and unyielding, a metaphor for life itself.

spoiled by then whining in his pitiful reggie perrin mien that it doesnt even get everything right anyway as if he hadnt just contradicted himself completely

> whenever the fuck the bbc platform finally crunches through the data and makes it available

(i have a kickstart meeting tomorrow for the project to speed this up)

i think that if you start iplayer whilst the stream is running (ie before it ends) then you can rewind to the start and watch it from the buffer. buffer might only be two hours long though. after it ends you have to wait for the, yes, long transcode. it's complicated.

yes, here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcfour is the spain match, and if you'd've started within 2 hours of kickoff you could've seen the whole thing via the buffer (it's currently 56 minutes in)

BBC Blog, "Inside our UHD workflow"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/b56edd34-a1d8-4ef9-9d2d-1c93eda18f73

over 5Tbits per second streamed during ENG-TUN

(red card fwiw, he swung his arm back deliberately, if the other player had been 2 inches further away it would've been an elbow in the face)

https://www.reddit.com/r/footballhighlights/ has full games up more or less instantaneously

Also, wasn't there something in the Olympics where each team had a limited number of video appeals they could ask for?

the olympics also has horses and divin boards dyou want them too dyou

I was watching on iPlayer about 90 mins behind. Computer crashed at one point and was then told the game would be "available soon".

Then choosing to watching BBC1 live though (EastEnders) was able to rewind back to the football xps

thanks koogs and groovypanda!

i tried the buffer trick but there's no rewind on live streams w my roku stick, or at least none I've found

I tried the UHD live but it started buffering after a minute so I went back to regular tv

i watched Spain/Morocco in the end and that was some good shyt

Morocco so good

Ramos on the losing end of both their goals iirc

caught the portugal iran replay tonight, damn that was quite a ride!

spain morocco great too but by hod i could do without warren barton slobbering on about the magic of spain bleuch, i had to mute him

*god

barton's a tool

yeah the praise for Spain gets ridiculous sometimes. Sure, they combine nicely, but they hardly score (which is.. may I remind the commentators, the 'goal' of football)

to score and to prevent opponents from doing so, which comfortable possession is a very good way of achieving

Spain certainly had that whole keeping possession thing nailed last night.

I'VE scored goals, you'll need to do better than that to get me interested

There is an underlying utilitarian logic to football that, when adhered to strictly, produces something sublime like Don Revie's Leeds or the current Iceland team, something so perfectly efficient that it's just too much to watch.

I think that's true but I think the same is true of the Pep Barcelona side - a system implemented to an absurd perfection.

the transcendent blandness of harry kane has been enchanting me over recent seasons. he's a paragon of efficiency with just enough passion and ego to be effective without it hindering his performance. he's streamlined his game and his personality, always keen and ambitious but never overexcited, just eternally passing it into the bottom corner

xp (Each of these sides was dirty too, a perfect system can't tolerate the chaos of 11 human people trying to interfere.)

there is a collective ecstasy abt pep teams in full flow that goes beyond the unencumbered mind of a ruthless optimiser

agreed, i just didn't have adequate words.

I think that ecstacy's there in the Revie Leeds and maybe even in the current Iceland teams though [I dunno, maybe it's a different flavour that I can't really taste, I've never been one for the idea of 2playing football the right way" or whatevs]. The looks on the faces of the Icelanders when going down to that defeat against Nigeria, it was like they were waking up from a beautiful dream.

bbc punditry on the spain game was absolutely insufferable.. "sure they pass well but where's the GOALZ0RRR?>!!?!?!"

*Narrator*: Spain won the group

also the completely inevitable moan that "it's such a shame that VAR has affected the outcome of this match" on the offside call in 92' - which VAR CORRECTED. apparently it's quite alright if an assistant ref affects the outcome of a match. but once you double check it the World Cup is ruined.

Stopping the other team scoring seems to be more of a problem for Spain at the moment.

In the other game they kept banging on about how Portugal needed to win the group to avoid Uruguay but I'm not sure playing the host nation next is particularly preferable.

I think it is. Uruguay know how to get a job done. Russia are pretty much done for the WC.

Really mad I missed the 2nd half the Iran Portugal because I convinced myself that Quaresma's goal pretty much doomed Iran, so I went to a yoga class. I should give the whole 'taking care of myself' thing a rest for a while.

Saw the highlights but I really wanted the full VAR effect in real time.

Yeah but on only four occasions (out of 21) have the hosts failed to get to the quarter finals at least (and 13 times they've gone on to the semis or more) so I wouldn't be writing Russia off just yet xp

host nations have tended to be good at football though. is it only south africa that are def worse? obv 2002 was fruity but I'd still take those teams over this russia team

oh the USA mb, the only thing I remember about 94 was the penalty shoot out

USA, Mexico (a couple of times)?

Overhearing a guy in the pub garden yesterday during Uru-Rus explaining y
to his gf/wife that the kremlin had bought up all the refs and was rigging the whole competition. And that the russian sending off and comfortable win for uruguay was just a twist in the scheme, that obviously putin wanted russia to lose this one.

Weird thing was, I picked up no sense of indignation, or even resignation from this guy. He just seemed to think it was the most normal thing in the world, of course russia hosting the world cup would try and rig it. You've got to respect the local culture and all.

tbc: qatar

xp

South Africa only host not to get out of their group.

Then USA & Japan only hosts to lose first knockout game (Spain also failed to get past second round but that was when there was a second group phase with the four winners advancing to semis) xps

Its done with the sense of this secret knowledge. Had someone at work who said the Premier League champions were all decided in advance and would bore on about it (was sacked by the time Leicester won it so I don't know how he'd explain that). And you always have the guy who is telling you Nadal and Barcelona are on the good stuff too, just a different species of all sport is fake but I know. It goes into politica of course but I'll stop there. xps

Yeah but on only four occasions (out of 21) have the hosts failed to get to the quarter finals at least (and 13 times they've gone on to the semis or more) so I wouldn't be writing Russia off just yet xp

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btw, 4/21 is often enough. I would say if Russia were facing Portugal they'd have 40% chance. Against Spain its half that. Like, VAR would have to get involved *puts sunglasses on*

He just seemed to think it was the most normal thing in the world, of course russia hosting the world cup would try and rig it. You've got to respect the local culture and all.

Can't really blame the guy. Platini recently admitted they rigged the draw @France1998 tot give the host nation a better fate. France won that WC.

Seeding the host nation no matter how shit they are basically is rigging it in their favour, it's just that it's accepted within the rules.

I might have backed Russia to squeak through against Portugal somehow, just because Portugal look kind of shambolic right now. Spain have done as well but but Russia don't look like a team set up to defend so they should rip right through them. Wouldn't bet against there being four or five goals though.

I heard the Platini thing but without looking it up I don't see how that is rigging it. If you aren't very good you don't get through. That team went onto win the Euros and a few of them got a last hurrah in '06.

If manipulating a draw isn't rigging, then I don't know what is. Of course it won't guarantee a desired outcome, but it's rigging regardless.

The act in the first instance is rigging but I am not sure how effective it really was. Is Platini a master in 12 dimensional chess to map out this 'easier route' or something? Just want to see it more mapped out, is all.