POLL Those Years Ago: The Beatles Solo Careers Poll Results Thread

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my mom was on a trip visiting Liverpool last week and when they got on the Magical Mystery Tour bus the driver was like, "Paul actually just hopped onto the bus a few days ago". gg imagine that!

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 25 June 2018 00:08 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50A9cU4o0Lo

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 29 June 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link

all of that sounds v encouraging :D

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 6 July 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

so I ranked Paul's shit.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:14 (five years ago) link

that's p close to how i'd rank them myself -- i've definitely played his debut more than anything else he ever did.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

If he’d cut... “No Words"

lolwhat. best song on the album!

good writeups, cheers

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 November 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link

best song?!

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 November 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link

to me, it's up there. I wish it was twice as long

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 November 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link

"no words" was in my top five? it's totally the best song on band on the run

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

I love you, ILM.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 November 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

it's sublimely produced disco-ballad-rock.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 November 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

88. One of These Days - Paul McCartney (feat. Paul) (394 points, 7 votes)

I pretty much know duck-all about Solo Beatles, but “Temporary Secretary” (a recent discovery) led me to McCartney II — and the above closing track is a very fine song.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Saturday, 19 January 2019 20:49 (five years ago) link

McCartney II is pretty much the hipster/Pitchfork readers choice.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 January 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link

Yr starting at the wrong end of the list morris

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 January 2019 22:30 (five years ago) link

The first 4 or 5 tracks (and that final track) are great — for a minute I was like, “Is this gonna be a one-guy skewed bedroom-pop classic? — but then there’s some real bloozy shmooz in the middle. I do like a few of the instrumentals. I guess it was a big deal for a guy like McCartney to release an album full of that stuff, showing that he’s not weighed down by his rep?

It also sent me off listening to other stuff that seemed related in my personal taxonomy, like Fred Frith’s Cheap at Half the Price (that’s a lot more “unconventional,” of course).

i stan corrected (morrisp), Saturday, 19 January 2019 22:31 (five years ago) link

Nah, he'd already released McCartney ten years prior, which was mostly him pissing about at home. In between those two, it was all stuff with (Paul McCartney &) Wings and Ram (which was billed as a Paul & Linda album) ...

The first album released solely under his name (i.e. not Wings) to have high production values is Tug of War, which was designed to be a blockbuster.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 January 2019 23:26 (five years ago) link

The first Wings album sounds like it was written and recorded in the same amount of time as it takes to listen to it!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 January 2019 23:28 (five years ago) link

Hmm. I tried listening to the first McCartney LP, but it didn’t jibe (“Maybe I’m Amazed” notwithstanding)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Saturday, 19 January 2019 23:30 (five years ago) link

Usually I do dig “musician messing around with a multitrack and lots of instruments” type albums

i stan corrected (morrisp), Saturday, 19 January 2019 23:31 (five years ago) link

mccartney I is more interesting than mccartney II imo, the later album has some cool stuff but feels way blander than its reputation

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 19 January 2019 23:39 (five years ago) link

It's a mixed bag of stuff - 'Junk' and 'Teddy Boy' were songs that didn't make it onto The Beatles, I think 'Hot as Sun' was written pre-Beatles even (I'll have to double check that) ... most of the songs were just made up as he was recording. 'Maybe I'm Amazed' is the best song on there, IMO, and it's tempting to think of it as an obvious Beatles single had they stayed together.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 January 2019 23:44 (five years ago) link

The reputation of MII comes from its re-release during a particular time: the apogee of Hot Chip, Junior Boys, etc. Lots of stories praising "Secret Friend," for example.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 January 2019 23:46 (five years ago) link

The first McCartney is pretty much McCartney pissing about at home and trying to take his mind off the whole Beatles fall-out, whereas McCartney II was McCartney pissing about at home in between Wings projects and possibly trying to come up with something for the next Wings album. 'Wonderful Christmastime' came out of the same sessions.

Of course, the Japan thing happened and Wings broke up and a solo album was cobbled together from the demos.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 January 2019 23:57 (five years ago) link

one of these days >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe I'm amazed

flappy bird, Sunday, 20 January 2019 00:53 (five years ago) link

This isn't the controversial opinions thread.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 20 January 2019 01:14 (five years ago) link

one of these days >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe I'm amazed

no way. more like
one of these days >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe I'm amazed

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 January 2019 02:31 (five years ago) link

otm

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 January 2019 02:41 (five years ago) link

like mccartney ii isn’t the best mccartney record or anything but it’s got a lot of cool stuff on it

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 January 2019 02:41 (five years ago) link

McCartney II is pretty much the hipster/Pitchfork readers choice.

not Ram?

billstevejim, Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:06 (five years ago) link

I agree. It's not the best McCartney album but nor is it down there with his worst (Pipes of Peace, Off the Ground) and it does have some neat stuff on it. 'One of These Days' is a middle table McCartney song at best, though, whereas 'Maybe I'm Amazed' is one of his finest songs.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:07 (five years ago) link

Ram is another one beloved by hipsters and Pitchfork readers, yeah. I'm glad they haven't discovered Back to the Egg or Flowers in the Dirt yet.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:10 (five years ago) link

i don’t really give a shit about who particularly prioritizes ram, a great record

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:18 (five years ago) link

iirc it made vh1’s 100 greatest records ever, it’s reputation cant be isolated to pfork in the way mccartney ii’s can

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:22 (five years ago) link

i apologize for enjoying this pbr. i hope the other bar patrons don’t discover the wonders of peroni or modelo especial

budo jeru, Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:24 (five years ago) link

man, I've tried to like Ram but can't get beyond the obvious stuff and "Eat at Home." Give me Press to Play and Flowers in the Dirt.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:28 (five years ago) link

Alfred OTM, and I like Ram!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:34 (five years ago) link

“One of These Days” is one of those (rare) songs whose melody feels both ingenious/inspired and natural/“inevitable,” if that makes sense.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:34 (five years ago) link

Like, “someone had to compose this melody sooner or later, it makes perfect sense, and it’s beautiful”

i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:35 (five years ago) link

(But also — “it took a great songwriter to do it”)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:40 (five years ago) link

otm x3

flappy bird, Sunday, 20 January 2019 04:59 (five years ago) link

I understand hearing it as middling McCartney. but it's one of those simple, sad, understated songs that, if you they get to you and hit you at the right time, they become favorites, unspeakably beautiful and suddenly offering shelter, inspiration. I had McCartney II for three years and knew the song before I got stuck on it.

flappy bird, Sunday, 20 January 2019 05:03 (five years ago) link

“One of These Days” is one of those (rare) songs whose melody feels both ingenious/inspired and natural/“inevitable,” if that makes sense.

― i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, January 20, 2019 3:34 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Like, “someone had to compose this melody sooner or later, it makes perfect sense, and it’s beautiful”

― i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, January 20, 2019 3:35 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(But also — “it took a great songwriter to do it”)

― i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, January 20, 2019 3:40 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This pretty much sums up a lot of McCartney ballads to me. At his best, he makes it sound all so effortless.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 21 January 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link

i don’t really give a shit about who particularly prioritizes ram, a great record

Of course but I haven't heard every great record played multiple times in different coffee shops.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link

The echo on Paul’s voice on One of These Days is sublime.

The first /McCartney/ is pretty much McCartney pissing about at home and trying to take his mind off the whole Beatles fall-out, whereas /McCartney II/ was McCartney pissing about at home in between Wings projects and possibly trying to come up with something for the next Wings album. 'Wonderful Christmastime' came out of the same sessions.

Of course, the Japan thing happened and Wings broke up and a solo album was cobbled together from the demos.

I’ve certainly heard the Japan bust story before but never read that the McCartney II sessions were anything but an album proper. Where did you see this?

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 28 January 2019 05:34 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

I ranked his solo top tens. He had a lot.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 April 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link

Where’s Uncle Albert?

mourning joe (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 April 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link

ah yes -- corrected!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 April 2019 02:29 (four years ago) link

'My Love' and 'Live and Let Die' both far too low, but no complaints about anything at the top.

'Spies Like Us' is aural excrement, IMO. The sound of McCartney phoning it in and scraping the bottom of the barrel for a good idea.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 26 April 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link


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