thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

do people actually enjoy Skee Mask? that new album is like a really bad trip-hop throwback, I was astonished by how much of a slog it was to get through given how much praise it's been getting

I like it! Some of the songs are kinda goes-in-one-ear-and-out-the-other but others (like the last two tracks and 50 Euro) are really stunning. It doesn't really remind me of trip hop? If anything the rhythms on it are more jungle/d&b

It's like jungle/dnb but without any sense of thrill or edge, I thought it was just really polite and tasteful and cold. It's not the jungle of hardcore raving, it's just really plodding breakbeats and pads playing emo chords and I dont get the "future of electronic music from a creative genius" narrative certain publications are running with on it

"Breakbeats and pads playing emo chords" is probably why people like it but it just seems so timid to me in its execution

My interest was peaked so I'm taking a listen. So far it's really good, if not super original. Definitely draws a lot from the LTJ Bukem school of jazzy dnb, but with modern production standards. The beats are the main attraction, with the chords providing a nice serene base for the rhythms to explore. Really high quality with lots of subtlety that you don't often get with dnb. Not really made to light the dance floor on fire, but it's very nice on headphones.

Might be one too many slow tracks though...

albums are inconsistent but he's good

It's like jungle/dnb but without any sense of thrill or edge, I thought it was just really polite and tasteful and cold. It's not the jungle of hardcore raving, it's just really plodding breakbeats and pads playing emo chords and I dont get the "future of electronic music from a creative genius" narrative certain publications are running with on it

― boxedjoy, Monday, June 25, 2018 6:41 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is my problem with like 90% of post-2000 drum'n'bass tbf.

I'm listening to the first track now and I quite like it so far. Nice sound design. Maybe it's a matter of hype = false expectations with these things

do people actually enjoy Skee Mask? that new album is like a really bad trip-hop throwback, I was astonished by how much of a slog it was to get through given how much praise it's been getting

Felt pretty much the same way on my first listen (and never really liked his last record which had similar levels of praise.)

After a couple more listens it clicked for me, though ... love it now!

I don't like it, don't understand the hype. I mean, it's fine, but not what I'm looking for and nothing special imo.

I'm listening to the new Martyn album and it is stunning, likewise the new Beta Librae album also makes a lot of similar moves, but neither of them are getting anything like the acclaim this is

ski mask with nardwuar made me think he's a chill dude.

i really like this, don't care what anyone thinks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo9KXM60l4U

i'm more into andrea & stenny when it comes to Ilian Tape stuff

ski mask with nardwuar made me think he's a chill dude.

different dude (unless that's the joke in which case the joke is on me)

ilx has such a shit taste in indie. not sorry

ok fine let's give Rolling Search Engine Optimisation Fever another go

this opening track is 10000 minutes of the same boring riff

I don't really get it either, but I'm trying to assume something like "it's not you, it's me"...

it's definitely imago

i'm also not feeling Let's Bore G'ma

...bore huh

mood: strategising an ogmor-on-Mary-Lattimore on Parquet Courts

m8 I successfully navigate life and art without giving one second's thought to most shit du jour, try it! It's liberating!

Like why are you even engaging if it's dross. I assume it's dross. So I don't check it out.

i guess 'the discourse' is an overrated thing. i shall hereby tidy the house instead

Let a billion discourses bloom

listening to the beths. not bad! it's like...decent, formulaic indie with fair-to-good hooks we've all heard before. so it puzzles me why ilxors good and true are hyping it to the skies, feels like they're almost patronising it, forcing it to be their 'album of the year' as it's a cool look or w/e. i mean sure like it and write about it but there's massive cognitive dissonance between the album you're all talking about and the album i'm hearing

tldr: listen to the trust fund album as well pls

forcing it to be their 'album of the year' as it's a cool look or w/e

lj, i hate it when you do this, please stop

like i haven't heard the beths record but what if it were my album of the year? personally i'd say fuck you!

btw listen to the new low album

and you'd be right to! but given what else has come out this year i flatly refuse to believe this would be even close to your aoty. but i've been wrong before. i just don't understand the greatness of this album. i'm listening and i can't hear it

and yeah ok haha

It's a very narcissistic look to not only think you have the best taste (that's normal enough), but to actually doubt that other people are sincere in their own enjoyment of things outside of that

fine well i wish i just understood people better then

also, the album picks up at the end at least

it's a delicate thing to get right but I am not universally against ppl casting aspersions on my proclaimed love for certain things, sometimes there's some truth to it

sure, consider the posting history of rtc

btw i feel bad about getting mad at you lj so i've decided to finally listen to this trust fund album, will report back

It's a very narcissistic look to not only think you have the best taste (that's normal enough), but to actually doubt that other people are sincere in their own enjoyment of things outside of that

― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:11 AM (thirty-four minutes ago)

this is all some people have. nothing worse than a music critic who thinks/speaks of their opinions as fact.

credit to imago, though, i thought this:

i mean sure like it and write about it but there's massive cognitive dissonance between the album you're all talking about and the album i'm hearing

was gonna be this:

"i mean sure like it and write about it but there's massive cognitive dissonance between the album you're all talking about and the album it actually is"

big difference there that i appreciate

fine well i wish i just understood people better then

no you dont

(sorry)

if people can't talk about records they don't get in the "talk about records you don't get" thread where the fuck can they

(I haven't heard the full album; the tracks I heard were nice but not necessarily outstanding for me)

Fair enough I guess this should be a safe space for hating and strawperson-ing

yeah ilx really needed one of those

anyway i wasn't railing against the thread idea itself just the particular way lj did it so i'm confused

this thread should be burned to the ground

People can hate on what they want, but questioning other listeners' underlying motivations is a technically very difficult power-move to execute without looking small-minded and intellectually lazy, so in most cases it's a rhetorical manoeuvre best avoided or at least saved for real "in emergency break glass" situations, which is probably not "why do people enjoy this perfectly pleasant power-pop album".

Nah.

In the anachronistic spirit of this thread, I'll try to contribute to it once my to-listen list finally hits 2018, so if all goes well, some time next year.

xp

Without questioning anyone's motivations (for anything), I'm also a little surprised at the passionate reception for the Beths (it's fine, but I thought I'd like it more, based on descriptions).

But I've felt the same way about other stuff here recently that folks have gone gaga over. I wish I could hear more stuff with the same ears, I'd rather love stuff than not love it!