Oh ffs, this is apparently now an Internet Talking Point:
http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/05/is-hip-hop-over.html
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 12 May 2008 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link
"Easy-E's bemused inventiveness"?, "the oeuvre of Biggie"? Could you be more annoying?
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― Billy Pilgrim, Monday, 12 May 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link
something about the poll at the bottom of that article is hilarious.
xpost
― horseshoe, Monday, 12 May 2008 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm v curious about the comments but i have a strict lol fuck salon policy
― gff, Monday, 12 May 2008 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40127000/gif/_40127544_students_203152.gif
Yay! Death to Hip Hop!
Posted by: Neil | May 12, 2008 2:27:25 PM
― Bodrick III, Monday, 12 May 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
white people are people too
only white working-class men in swing states, silly.
― marc h., Monday, 12 May 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link
his opinions are fucking stupid and pretty CHALLENGING but not really all that uncommon, it's that he's basing those opinions on incorrectness assumptions of "fact" that is most infuriating
-- J0rdan S., Monday, 12 May 2008 21:02 (1 hour ago) Link
Dude weren't we just saying this about our own opinions the other night
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 12 May 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
at the super jackoff sesh
― and what, Monday, 12 May 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Just saying that being pathologically certain of the accuracy of your aesthetic judgments seems to be a job prerequisite for lots of critics.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
can i chall-ops myself
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Let's get back to deriding this clown
crank dat i like wu-tang better than soulja boy
-- max, Monday, May 12, 2008 10:06 PM (55 minutes ago)
wuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link
why do lameos like wu tang
― kl0pper, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe Paul Kix could move to the UK and moan about dance music like all the boring, wrong pricks here have for the last twenty years.
― Bodrick III, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Change of pace, y'know?
― Bodrick III, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
he grew up in the ghetto in los angeles, & has in his office a remote-controlled john deer combine. it is equipped to harvest corn.
-- deeznuts, Monday, May 12, 2008 4:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
major lols
― deej, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
"Its dances are silly, its beats infantile, its rhymes lazy"
It was always like that. A disgrace to the genius of black culture. Compare its best to anything by Gil Scott Heron and the Last Poets, its chief inspirations. And that's the 70s, not a great decade for anybody's art. Go farther back, say to the second Miles Davis Quintet, John Coltrane or Ornette Coleman, and you'll really feel sad. Want decent rhymes? There are generations of great black writers and poets. For great songwriting, check out the R&B movement of the 40s.
lol stanley crouch
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link
anyone who still reads salon deserves this shithead
― gershy, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 03:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I am sorry to report this, but hip-hop is no longer cooler than me.
This guy sounds like he's been waiting to "report this" all his life
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link
haaaa
and ya
what people said about... SALON.
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 03:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Please let me be as cool as hip hop, please let me be as cool as hip hop, please let me be as cool as hip-hop... YES!!!
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link
And that's the 70s, not a great decade for anybody's art.
So much RONG.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 09:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean, all over this article and everything else cited here, too.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 09:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Hispanics/Conservatives fite article is OK.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 09:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Funny that most/all of the letters that rate "editor's choice" or whatever are dissing the article.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 09:48 (fifteen years ago) link
hahaha there but for the grace of god
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't know the moron who wrote this article to care about his opinions, but I know a lot of y'all well enough to be kind of disappointed that you can still entertain yourselves with threads about articles like this every 6 months.
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:52 (fifteen years ago) link
are we grounded?
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link
anyone who's doomed to willingly repeat the same thread this many times doesn't need further punishment.
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:12 (fifteen years ago) link
i cant be arsed to read all of that article - seems so predictable but cant say i disagree that most new hip hop leaves me cold/bored. i like crank dat, low, etc etc as much as the next man but not in the same way i might have liked what was coming out say, a decade ago. or even as much as i liked saltshaker, get low etc.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link
This thread could be my new Macarena-zation fantasy.
― briania, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link
this reads like one of those fake columns they do at the onion
― J.D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link
otm
― Bodrick III, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link
No way. Crouch undoubtedly considers the R&B songwriters of the 40s to be hopeless sellouts.
― Sara Sara Sara, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgMgLjMghuk
― fantasimundo, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Most of what he criticizes "Crank That" for could equally apply to "Rapper's Delight."
― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Do you notice any similarities between ILMers getting worked up about people criticizing rap and right wingers getting hot and bothered over gay marriage? They're both equally predictable.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link
You must create some interesting slashfic.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link
it's funny how humans are!!!!
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link
s1ocki i love your voice-of-reason zings but you're kinda going overkill with them lately :(
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
s1ocki no longer cool sez white dude on ILXOR.com
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Don't worry guys, Sage Francis and Scroobius Pip are gonna make hip-hop relevant again.
― Bodrick III, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
The article is very boring and stupid and tl:dr. It's a shame it's a "talking point on the internet", because that probably makes it successful for the people who commission pieces on salon.com, and they'll likely want to put up more work in a similar vein. Sometimes I think the best thing to do w/such pieces would be to totally ignore them.
― Pashmina, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
We are witnessing nothing less than the Macarena-zation of a genre
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link
hip-hop died when the first Iowan saidWhen will the awful / dance crazes end
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link