Killing Joke -vs- Steely Dan

Steely Dan has way more good records. But aside from The Royal Scam, I never listen to the Dan on purpose. Whereas I still play the first and third Killing Joke records with some frequency.

Killing Joke are totally goth in the broad sense. That's part of what's good about them.

They're not fucking Goths and never were, for cryin' out loud. DO YOUR HOMEWORK, PEOPLE!

In all candor, comparing Killing Joke to Steely Dan is like comparing power tools to rice cakes.

All I know is that, the first time I ever heard Sisters of Mercy, I thought "they sort of sound like Killing Joke, but not as good."

Again, I think this begs a greater discussion as to what constitutes a Goth band. Don't think this is the thread for that.

"In all candor, comparing Killing Joke to Steely Dan is like comparing power tools to rice cakes."

...sarcastic rice cakes with unlimited funding and the best session players that money can buy.

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Listen to "Complications" off the s/t Killing Joke record while staring at the cover of Fire Dances. Then get back to me on who's goth.

Eat a big bag of your own filth, throw it up and rub it all over yourself, and then get back to me, Nate.

Killing Joke are only "goth" in the same way that Siouxsie and the Banshees are "goth" or for that matter Dead Can Dance are "goth" IE a bunch of goth bands ripped them off something rotten. There's a world of difference between KJ and, say the mission or sisters of mercy, not least KJ are GREAT and do not SUCK.

Haha! I'm going to have good dreams now. Thank you Alex. :)

Alex rules when he's all bent out of shape.

I dunno, I have my doubts about the Alex in NYC reunion tour.

Dude sure likes Killing Joke, I'll give him that.

No, it's a family of your family Thanksgiving party, cocksmoker.

-- Alex in NYC, Sunday, November 25, 2007 1:46 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

Eat a big bag of your own filth, throw it up and rub it all over yourself, and then get back to me, Nate.

-- Alex in NYC, Monday, November 26, 2007 12:47 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Classy!

-- Alex in NYC, Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

WHY I DISLIKE ALEX IN NYC, A LESSON IN THREE PARTS.

dickrider is way more original than cocksmoker fwiw.

later kj albums get really samey

dickrider is way more original than cocksmoker fwiw.

oh yeah dickrider is up on some vanguard shit, you never hear that from, like, everybody

I think it's a really lame insult because it boils down to "you're showing too much enthusiasm" = really? eat shit, then, asshole

ok now i see why trolling wrong and i am sorry

I prefer his earlier work.

naw, it's more than showing too much enthusiasm. it's blind fanboy bullshit, an inability to admit that maybe your tastes are not for everybody, and CONSISTENTLY deriding those who disagree with you. xpp

Why does the cobra bite me when I put my hand next to its mouth?

Used to be more of a surprise factor.

Wait, people are still getting butthurt over Alex in NYC?

people are still saying butthurt?!

butthurt is a good word.

Better than dickride?

Not that I agree with the analogies, but why is a band that's an analogous to a power tool better than a band that's analogous to a rice cake? Rice cakes may be bland, but power tools just make me think of blunt masculine energy, which I rarely find appealing.

power tools go right to my hips : (

Let's take the transcripts of arguments between 6th grade boys on the back of school buses, parse them, and judge the insults. I am sure this will bear fruit!

If you fell into a cave, and it was full of power tools and rice cakes, I bet you'd be way more into the rice cakes.

Or you could use the power tools to drill through the walls and get out.

well if the cave has free utilities then you might as well just live there

rice cakes are good w/cream cheese

im going to add some rice cakes and cream cheese to my fresh direct order

Turning into a TITTWWS thread.

J0hnD. is capt. save-a-controversy. p.s. u madddd

can't wait 4 his willfully naive rebutt-al!!! XD

Power tools are mostly battery operated now, ya know.

And if you fall on a big pile of them, you can just use another one when the previous one's battery runs out.

Look, I got this "escape from a fucking cave" thing all worked out in my head.

maybe you could fashion the rice cakes into a ladder using the power tools

I think I once read a Walker Percy novel based on a famous philosophical conundrum similar to this one.

Ricecakes In the Ruins

Yeah, that was it.

I have zero history with Alex (I'm still very new here), but his comment made me laugh out loud at the end of a long day. He's ok by me. :)

WHY I DISLIKE ALEX IN NYC, A LESSON IN THREE PARTS.

It's well beyond mutual, ass monkey!

So the more ds, the maddddddder u r?

Why must people be so utterly humorless?

Killing jokes.

I laughed.

you're so vain
you probably think this thread is about you

This thread was composed as a retort to this thread, so yes -- it might as well be about me.

PS: Up yours.

this looks like a cool cd:

2000 VA- Gothic Club Classics audio
A double-CD collection of true gothic club classics! Not any Bauhaus, Nephilim, Xymox or Mission song, but their absolute best, most recognized, and most essential tracks for the newly converted: The Mission UK's Wasteland, Bauhaus' Bela Lugosi, The Clan's Louise, X-mal's Incubus Succubus II , Killing Joke's Love Like Blood, Nick Cave's Weeping Song, Fields of the Nephilim's MoonChild, and several other leading gothic bands like Dreadful Shadows, Love Like Blood, Inkubus Sukkubus, Theatre of Tragedy and many more. 28 songs.

so does this one:

2006: VA - A Life Less Lived: The Gothic Boxaudio
"A 4-disc box (3 CDs + DVD), with 53 songs and 12 videos originally released between 1978 and 1998, this boxed set provides a uniquely comprehensive listen into the largest underground scene in the world. Long before its black velvet and pale skin fashions crept into American malls, Goth music represented an underground movement led by fans who favored songs that tapped into the antisocial energy of punk but celebrated dark introspection, tempestuous atmospherics and visual panache. Rhino brings together influential bands that rarely or never participate in Gothic music compilations to create a fascinating cross-section of all matters pertaining to Goth. The box set includes essential classic hits from the founders of the gothic rock movement including Bauhaus, Joy Division, The Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, The Jesus And Mary Chain, The Mission UK, Echo & The Bunnymen, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds, Love And Rockets, Fields Of The Nephilim, Ghost Dance, Peter Murphy, The Danse Society, Clan Of Xymox, Xmal Deutschland, Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, The Damned, Killing Joke and many more."

well if the cave has free utilities then you might as well just live there

qft