defend the indefensible: "kokomo" by the beach boys

Mike Love died for your sins!

It's true! Wait and see...

let's see, what would I prefer - "teenage symphonies to God" or a pop song that goes well with a rum & coke? no fuckin contest yo, Dom I got the next round

I don't have a problem with the song itself, per se, but hearing it inspires mental images of John Stamos and the rest of the Full House gang, which I'd prefer not to have.

my ding a-ling >>>all other chuck berry songs

mikin' love out of nothin' at all

i just remembered that my family tree includes people with the surname 'love'.. maybe i'm related to mike?????!

i know someone who is related to him and met him in person; no joke. He was every bit as cheesy in the flesh as you'd imagine, from the story my friend related to me.

a pop song that goes well with a rum & coke?

since when did we start using "go well with" to spin "could curdle"

this song is mind torture from start to finish

this song might actually be why i hate the beach boys. my sister used to play it obsessively when we were young.

I guess the divide here is whether or not you had to withstand the song nonstop in 1988? I was 0 yrs old so back then all I ever heard was the Muppets version a couple of times

this song is bullshit~

best beatles song: free as a bird

lol

cue some contrarian asshole saying "b-b-but it is!"

a pop song that goes well with a rum & coke

But to paraphrase what many have sung, some things go better with coke...like approx. 100,000 pop songs (and actually quite a few of those teen symphonies to God).

Actually, I just heard it again and the chorus features a more agreeable chug than I remember. But the rest of the song doesn't. I don't hear how the accordion makes it special at all. And it's still a song abut repressed homosexuality. No gay guys like it. I know - I asked them.

abut = Freudian slip

I give in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckQCvTqswUw

I guess the divide here is whether or not you had to withstand the song nonstop in 1988? I was 0 yrs old so back then all I ever heard was the Muppets version a couple of times

for me the dividing line is I have always found Brian Wilson insufferable and his acolytes more so, so this song has the dual benefits of 1) not being a B.W. song and 2) trolling B.W. fanboys

i find the beach boys pretty annoying in general, but this is like all the worst qualities of typical beach boys shit amped up to 11 with a dose of fresh hell in the mix

oops. sorry for posting it on the 1p3 list.

dude that list is full of all kinds of crap, don't worry about it! haw

mikin' love out of nothin' at all

Tonight I celebrate mike love for you

watching.. waiting.. for you to justify mike love

Terry Melcher

"do it again" (a late '60s BBs hit that i'm pretty sure has minimal BW involvement) is a pop song that goes well with a rum and coke. "kokomo" is a fuckin' piece of shit. raise yr contrarian standards, etc etc.

raise yr contrarian standards
^^this

Agree with whomever lists Carl Wilson as "Kokomo"'s sole saving grace - It's one of the last times he recorded with the band IIRC.

And attn J0hn: there are many non-BW BBs recordings that are enjoyable without the accompanying baggage. Sunflower and Surf's Up alone proved that.

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I'm not being contrarian when I hate Brian Wilson & most old BBs records, the first time I heard classic Beach Boys I was a young kid living in southern California and I said (paraphrasing here) "ick what the fuck is this garbage that sounds like ass, get this shit out of here" it was only years later I learned some people thought all that horrible squalling sound was somehow good.

"do it again" is ok though I'll give you that one. would still rather listen to "kokomo" though

"This Song Wants To Sleep With You Tonight" - funny title.

i want to kiss them for their wonderful music.
-- ethan, Friday, November 9, 2001 5:00 PM (6 years ago)
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I guess there were worse stuff in the charts at the time, but stood beside their classic 63-73 output, this is downright indefensible.

"Kokomo" was sure-as-fuck better than the movie that introduced it.

brian was involved in do it again you know

...and it ain't 'til I die nor sail on sailor.

yeah I'm aware dude it's not like I mindlessly hate him in a "if he's on it, I hate it" style - there are a few exceptions and "do it again" is one of them

it was in response to

"do it again" (a late '60s BBs hit that i'm pretty sure has minimal BW involvement) is a pop song that goes well with a rum and coke.

brian wrote and produced the track, having stated pride in that drum sound eternally since (and sampled by air)

would much rather listen to jimmy buffett than this shit

yeah i totally wouldve figured if j0hn hated the beach boys his except for song would be 'sail on sailor', seems right up his alley. also really really cant figure out how someone could prefer 'kokomo' to 'wipeout'.

not sure what this means, but van dyke parks contributed to both good vibrations and sail on sailor

as for wipeout, i wonder if polydor A&R was like, hey, Run-DMC crossed over with aerosmith -- so we've talked to the beach boys' mike love about something similar...and fatties were like wtf?!

I can't figure out what's particularly exceptional about "Do It Again" that sets it apart from vast swathes of the BBs catalog. Song about girls and surfing and w/dense vocal arrangement over a standard r&b chord structure = over half of all BBs songs (at least!)

I mean sure nice odd drum effect but come on

b-b-b-but it came out in 68!

i'm a friends kinda guy though

well then of course they got chubby checker on 'the twist' and i'm sure at the very least phonecalls were made for 'baby you're a rich man'.

around this time?
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and by around this time, i mean really AROUND this time

*rimshot*

hey I dig "Let's Do It Again" (and "Friends") a lot - my point is that making an exception of hatred for that one particular song solely because of its drum effect/sample history is a little uhhhhh waht

i think you're combining thoughts of different posters shakey

clearly, i'm too much of a fan to discount nearly anything by them. kokomo is just about the only thing i don't like. hell, i fucking stop my life just to see what carnie is up to.

the other dudes on this thread be hatin' "everything but..."

I'm convinced that Full House killed the Beach Boys' reputation for good. It doesn't matter how much acclaim rock critics pile on Smile or Pet Sounds. It doesn't even matter if Brian's right there onstage performing Smile or Pet Sounds. To generations, the Beach Boys will always be Uncle Jesse's favorite band.

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