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big brother is for people with no life.

angela (angela), Thursday, 21 November 2002 11:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

that's hardly controversial.

yes i have no life. what of it?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 21 November 2002 11:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

All "Just Say No" anti-drug ads are better films than 'Requiem for a Dream'.

Keith McD (Keith McD), Thursday, 21 November 2002 11:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

i mean two years ago i would have said exactly the same thing about bb. except then i did have a life. now i don't.

what harm does my not having a life do to you? is it, like, illegal?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 21 November 2002 11:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

so yes maybe your opinion is controversial because it got me going. and i try not to use cliches like "get a life" or similar because now i know what it's like from the other side.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 21 November 2002 11:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

i wasn't intending to get at you or insult you marcello. i was reminded of my opinion on big brother when i noticed the bbc news website had a sidebar about it, i came to post on this thread and coincidentally you had posted about bb. perhaps i should have been more tactful and not posted my opinion directly below yours. apologies for any offence caused.

angela (angela), Thursday, 21 November 2002 11:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

marcello, she didn't mean anything by it. oh sth controversial; i am going to send those CDs (i am being honest!)

nathalie (nathalie), Thursday, 21 November 2002 11:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

hey that's ok angie. don't worry about it. things are just pretty bad at the moment and i do tend to get over-sensitive even at the best of times. so, apologies accepted :-)

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 21 November 2002 11:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

however for calling me "angie" i'm not sure i'll ever forgive you!

angela (angela), Thursday, 21 November 2002 11:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

eminem should be tried at the hague for crimes against humanity.

angelo (angelo), Thursday, 21 November 2002 12:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

dr dre should sign milosevic.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 21 November 2002 13:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

1) Basic Instinct is actually a really good film.

2) Harry Potter is a kids book and adults reading it are morons

3) LOTR is Harry Potter for grown-ups (and thus still shit)

4) Freedom of speech won't feed my children

5) David Elleray's denial of Chesterfield a legitimate 3rd goal in the 1997 FA Cup semi-final was an act of class war.

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 21 November 2002 13:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

I wuv Sarah McLusty.
Wait - that's not contrcversial, is it?
I mean, everyone agrees with nabisco, right??

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 November 2002 13:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Now this looks like a job for me
So everybody just follow me
'Cos we need a little controversy
'Cos it feels so empty without me

Hum dee dai la la hum dei dei la la la la la
Hum dee dai la la hum dei dei la la la la la
Kids!"

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 November 2002 14:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Instead of spending fortunes keeping psychopathic serial murderers incarcerated for life, or killing them and thus bringing guilt upon ourselves, we should remove them from our lives, our efforts and our social costs by exiling them to solitary existence on an island/enclosure where they *can* manage to survive if they spend *every* waking minute of the rest of their lives searching for food/water supplies - until they then die of some health ailment which could have been treated by the society they tried to fuck over, and which has hypothecated the money saved from their incarceration into care for the elderly, the infirm, and the unfortunate.
'Caring Vengeance' haha

(1st person to mention 'Australia' is 1st on the boat...)

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 21 November 2002 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

ILE spends all its time talking about music now.

Alan (Alan), Thursday, 21 November 2002 16:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm not the greatest person in the universe ever.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am the greatest person in the universe ever.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

How is that controversial, Dan?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not everyone pays me homage. YET.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

*bows in obesiance*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

hashtags are more toxic to the US political climate than all the corporate money in the world

welltris (crüt), Monday, 30 November 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link

The left is unhealthily obsessed with moral purity.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 30 November 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

man alive otm

Treeship, Monday, 30 November 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link

the left a lot of my leftist friends who post a lot on facebook and a few writers they admire, basically

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 30 November 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link

the left are the worst

flopson, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

ban strollers

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 30 November 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

xp- actually Hurting, iirc i follow Doug Henwood on facebook because of a post you made on ilx about how he's fun to follow as a cipher into intra-left squabbles. too hooked on hatereading to unfollow :(

flopson, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link

The left is unhealthily obsessed with moral purity.

#mindBlown

xyzzzz__, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

xp I generally like Henwood, he just has a lot of weird hangers-on.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 30 November 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link

ah that wasn't clear, i meant hate-reading his comment threads and intra-left squabbles he links to. i like henwood a lot, even if he's a little too partisan/hard left for my taste. i actually met him under hilarious circumstances in montreal last summer. he was tweeting about feeling embarrassed to be seen reading HRC's memoir (which he was reading for the review that turned into his controversially designed book) at a montreal cafe, and i looked over and saw him at a neighbouring table with the book on his lap!

flopson, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link

Wow @ 2002 opinions. I've been pretty solidly pro-choice and anti-death penalty for a long time.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link

not every shooter is a terrorist

flappy bird, Monday, 30 November 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link

pretty uncontroversial there. if you're talking about the planned parenthood thing, almost no one in the media is calling him a terrorist. he's just a disgruntled gentle guy who was having a bad day and just happened to be near planned parenthood. these things happen

Karl Malone, Monday, 30 November 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link

Such a hapless goofball. You can't help but love him!

The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

i don't know if this is controversial or even an opinion but i do believe that if pro-life activists believe what they say about abortion is true (that it is literally murder and there has literally been one of history's greatest genocides going on in the US for years) there should be way more clinic shootings. think about the kind of behavior you would condone if you felt it was designed to stymie an actual genocide. otoh from the beginning of this year: "If we were in 30's Berlin we'd all be Nazi's," so maybe not.

Mordy, Monday, 30 November 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link

Not everything in the respective threads are racist/sexist/antisemitism

how dare you

Mordy, Monday, 30 November 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link

"otoh from the beginning of this year thread" i meant

Mordy, Monday, 30 November 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link

I sometimes feel similarly about people who are vegetarians/vegans for animal rights reasons. Why don't they at least push for anti-meat legislation more often?

I don't see how there is much of a case for abortion being a genocide by this definition, though, even if you think it is murder.

3xpost

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 November 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

think about the kind of behavior you would condone if you felt it was designed to stymie an actual genocide

you could go all the way up to genocide minus one

flopson, Monday, 30 November 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

fair enough - i was using genocide loosely to mean the intentional murder of huge quantities of people in a systemic manner. i don't think they're being discriminated against on account of their race or religion. xp

Mordy, Monday, 30 November 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

Pet breeds basically = killing dogs and cats for ornament and amusement.

And yet it's socially acceptable, even classy.

"Ooh, lovely dog! Is that a Glaswegian Sproinger Spaniel?" "Yes!" "I love their temperament. And such majestic bearing!"

"May I pet your dog? What breed is she?" "She's an Ethiopian Sticklefoot. Yes, it's rare for E-Stickies have this golden color, but she took a ribbon for Best in Show last month!"

I get that people may want a pet that works well for their household and lifestyle.

But with millions of dogs and cats being put to sleep for lack of a good home, any and all intentional breeding is like throwing gas on the fire. And failing (or refusing) to spay/neuter is equally reckless.

News flash: dogs don't give a shit about whether they're a Norwegian Bumbleneck or a Mexican Cockless. If an intentionally-bred pet is beautiful or noble, bully for you... but as for the practice as a whole, why not footbinding, or toddler bonsai?

the minor fall, the lemon lift (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link

I sometimes feel similarly about people who are vegetarians/vegans for animal rights reasons. Why don't they at least push for anti-meat legislation more often?

I'm (recently) vegan for a lot of reasons, not just animal rights, but I think greater public awareness of the consequences of factory farming and animal-based diets is more effective than legislation at this point. Also I'm not necessarily a bleeding-heart animal lover. I'm more interested in seeing people significantly reduce their consumption of meat/dairy/eggs/etc than in seeing everyone go fully vegan. Though at the rate humanity is trashing this earth, at some point most of us will be forced to give up animal consumption.

welltris (crüt), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link

Or we'll populate the seas w/ plankton and consume vast amounts of fish?

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link

people don't push for anti-meat legislation because it has absolutely no chance and it makes meateaters incredibly angry to even discuss the concept. otherwise reasonable people get visibly shaken and angry and begin yelling at good friends and ruining dinners and family gatherings, and even after the tension thaws out a little bit, during future gatherings there are countless side-remarks that fly around the room about how such and such was on the dinner menu to accommodate "the vegan" (even if you're not a vegan) and assumptions that the non-meateater is deeply disappointed at everyone around them and probably thinks they're a bad person because of how they eat meat. if somehow anti-meat legislation was ever seriously brought to the floor i'd strongly consider protesting against it just so that i didn't have to listen to the nauseating comments that everyone has on the issue. there's a stereotype about the vegetarian/vegan ruining everyone's good fun and lecturing everyone, but in my experience it's always been the veggies just eating their food and attempting to have a normal meal while numerous (well-meaning!) (?) friends and acquaintances interrogate them about what they are and aren't eating and why.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link

but i'm not bitter! i'm not bitter!

all of that was supposed to be read using the funny satirical jokey guy voice

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link

ppl who get angry that vegans exist should be executed

LEGIT (Lamp), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link

basically

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link

how about ppl who get angry that meat-eaters exist?

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link


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