~~ Erotic Thrillers of the 80s and 90s ~~

in Sliver, they decided to cast Stone in the Michael Douglas type role. also the Billy Baldwin stuff is toothless because he's not even the killer, he's just a dopey voyeur.

My very Baptist dad took me and my little sister to Basic Instinct when we were kids. He didn't know it was a hard R type flick. Aside from the constant cringing, I remember being totally into it. "She's evil... she's brilliant!"

my podcast is doing 9 1/2 weeks of erotic thrillers curated by ilxor Mandee

She picked some good ones. Animal Instincts is a cuck cop movie.

Speaking as a hopelessly cishet person, the appeal of most of these men is going to elude me. That said, merely the fact that Douglas was a sex symbol for most of my lifetime is still bewildering. I mean, he was kinda roguish and self-mocking in Romancing the Stone but otherwise? Gah.

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Pop Falling Down into the VCR and just try to refrain from pawing yourself.

The one where he's married to Gwyneth is the most ridiculous example

wow i do not remember making this poll

a perfect murder

something like that anyway = xpost

xxpost What about that show where he was married to Karl Malden? I didn't buy that at all.

Also, Romancing the Stone was one of my favorite movies as a kid and I'm sure it impacted my ideas of romance and stuff and he was hot in that. He pulled up to her fucking apartment in NY on a yacht wearing the damn alligator on his feet. That is a badass move if I've ever seen one.

Falling Down is great.

But not in a erotic way, mind.

the men in these movies are rarely appealing imo

Bruce Willis in Color of Night is super blechhh just a couple years after being super cute in Moonlighting.

Is it the case that yr genuinely handsome doodz (Clooneys and whatnot) tend not to appear in erotic thrillers? Is this by accident or by design?

z-post yeah but he did go full frontal in the color of night

it was more of a side-frontal iirc

why am i debating bruce willis’ dingus on the internet

I guess because it's frowned upon in the workplace.

luv2frown at bruce willis’ dingus with my co-workers

their characters are pretty gross most of the time, probably keeps the good looking quality actors away

Whispers in the Dark ftw

Also used to recommend Fear all the time, then watched it again and was wholly embarrassed to have done so.

fear is an amazing, embarrassing movie

Generally, all the characters in erotic thrillers are gross or messed up... they're like the erotic side of noir.

To find the women appealing, you'd have to have an unhealthy attraction to danger and stupidity. Which is sort of the point with a lot of these movies.

there is not a (real) kathleen turner thread, so

this is great: http://www.vulture.com/2018/08/kathleen-turner-in-conversation.html

Do you have sympathy for actors who choose differently?

Certainly in terms of film, there is intense pressure to repeat successful characters. I’ll give you an example, but you mustn’t include her name. [Very famous Hollywood actress] has played the same role for 20 years. She even looks pretty much the same. She’s probably one of the richest women out there, but I would shoot myself if I were like that, only giving people what they expect.

my guess is Mariska Hargitay (who has only played herself or Olivia Benson in the past twenty years except for two small roles)

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/erotic-movies-ranked-worst-to-best/

99% thrillers, obv. (why are so many erotic movies thrillers??)

because if you add a thriller element you can say it's a dark exploration of the human psyche etc and so it has an alibi of semi-respectability, while if you make a happy sexy movie there's no fig leaf for the perving?

I've always found it weird too because dark explorations of the human psyche are kind of a turn-off

The Crush got slept on in this poll.

SHOWGIRLS (1995) 23% #127

lol bye

Spoilers.

It's not all that erotic, but I took a second look at The Mean Season last night (1985, Kurt Russell/Mariel Hemingway). I recently posted about how good The Grey Fox was on another thread; the Lightbox guy who introduced it talked a bit about Phillip Borsos's career, how he left Hollywood after The Mean Season because he was fed up, and how the movie was quite good.

It's not. It's okay for the first half, starts to get worse, and then the last 15 minutes are terrible. All through the film, the killer (who's in contact over the phone with journalist Kurt Russell) is shot so you can't see his face; it seems to be tipping you off that he's one of two people close to Russell, either his editor or the photographer who works alongside him, and that he's trying to teach Russell a lesson about journalists who gain fame through grisly crime. Suddenly they decide to show him; all the earlier subterfuge had no point at all. And then the killer (Richard Jordan) tries to do some actual acting, and he's awful. Russell (who I almost always like) and Hemingway aren't much better.

im all for the big reveal being that the killer is random more of that

Has anyone seen Night Train to Venice? I only recently became aware of it - 90’s gothic-erotic thriller involving Neo-Nazis, featuring Hugh Grant, Malcolm McDowell, and Nazi-era German star Kristina Söderbaum. It looks entertainingly batshit but every review I’ve seen basically says “you’d think this would be fun but it’s just awful and boring.”

(xpost) I was fine with the randomness of the killer, I just thought the false build-up was unnecessary.

There used to be multiple copies of these things in every used sale bin for three or four dollars; now whenever I want one, it's some ridiculous price on Amazon or eBay. Three I'm after (they're thrillers--they probably don't fit this thread exactly): Deceived (Goldie Hawn), Eyewitness (Sigourney Weaver/William Hurt), Storyville (James Spader). I saw the first two when they came out, not the third.

Oh man, I just threw away a copy of Eyewitness a few weeks ago. Watching it recently for the first time, I was kind of surprised that such a solid thriller with an A-list cast has been so completely forgotten... yet it falls rather short of greatness, and I'm in the process of forgetting it myself.

Damn. I think it was the film Peter Yates made right after Breaking Away.

Yeah with the writer of Breaking Away as well

Keys to Tulsa is the most Spadery Spaderness that ever Spadered.

Storyville is meh in comparison.

I feel like William Hurt must have made some bargain with the devil because for a while it seemed like he was in every movie.

Actually found Keys to Tulsa cheap, so went ahead and Spadered it. The thing that caught my attention with Storyville is that it's directed by Mark Frost, Lynch's partner on Twin Peaks.

Spader's whole career was just preface to his 12-step guy on Seinfeld.

The latest (or one of the latest) episodes of How Did This Get Made focuses on "Jade," and there is a lot of talk of erotic thrillers. Pretty funny stuff.

Deceived is on Disney+ (under their new “Star” imprint).

Damn, don't get it...Jade is a good example of what I mean. New copies sell on Amazon (Canada) for between $100-$600. Ten years ago, you would have found it any flea market or thrift shop for nothing. '90s erotic thrillers are turning into the 13th Floor Elevators and Chocolate Watchband albums of a different universe.

Apparently (I learned this from the podcast and, later, wiki)

An unrated "director's cut" version featuring additional scenes and more explicit sexual footage with an additional 12 minutes was later released to VHS, though it is now out of print; the theatrical cut was used for the subsequent DVD and Blu-ray editions. The planned unrated versions for DVD, LaserDisc, and Blu-ray were cancelled, due to poor sales of the unrated VHS version.

ty for tip, I greatly enjoyed them trying to decode the plot like The Big Sleep

nb: I have not seen Jade

watched wild things last night. absolutely incredible. i think it's lacking perfect erotic thriller dna but it is a wonderful movie.