A PS4 Thread: Because You Had to Play "Knack"

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Plus was $50 less than the even on-sale Pro.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 June 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

josh how do u not have the bluest balls

get zelda played and then get that PS4 opened and TLoU absolutely caned

||||||||, Monday, 18 June 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link

lol

gj Josh welcome

and yes get TLOU for sure

Nhex, Monday, 18 June 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMyCa35_mOg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 02:11 (five years ago) link

In the meantime, my shortlist is Bloodborne, The Last of Us, Dark Souls Remastered, and maybe Horizon Zero Dawn (because it's $10 at Best Buy). Maybe Uncharted 4? Most of these games seem to be $16-$18 used, about $20 new, with the exception of Dark Souls Remastered and, I dunno, God of War? Had preordered Wolfenstein II (and mia Dark Souls) on Switch, but if it's a good game I might just cancel and get it for PS4. Other suggestions? These seem enough to keep me going for years. Shadow of the Colossus? That game seems sad.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 02:16 (five years ago) link

i really loved uncharted 4. hitman is cool too. i mostly play fifa.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 June 2018 02:28 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not a big sports games fan.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

Fallout 3? Fallout 4?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 02:53 (five years ago) link

Fallout new vegas, tbh

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link

Good place to start?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link

That one, that is, rather than the other ones? I get the feeling game sequels are a bit like porn sequels; it really doesn't matter if you've seen the first five. I read there's a long stretch in Uncharted 4, though, for example, where if you haven't played the others it just totally lacks any emotional resonance.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link

Just the best game of the three, I think. You could start with any of the three and be fine, I think. Controversial opinion but playing just one of those three is enough, I think.

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:01 (five years ago) link

you can get a combo pack of Wolfenstein I and the DLC expansion for it for ~$20 usually now if you want to try that out before jumping on II

there's also Return of Arkham/Arkham Knight and Shadow of Mordor if you like your open world brawler action

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:10 (five years ago) link

Is the expansion pack ... The Old Blood? There are lots of versions of lots of these games. Confusing coming in late!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:30 (five years ago) link

that is correct

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:53 (five years ago) link

Thanks. Couple of other quick questions re: games: is there anything specific I need to look out for when buying used, besides the usual (scratches, etc.)? A lot of used games come with the disclaimer that, say, activation codes could be missing and things like that. That's mostly promotional stuff, right? Any used game in good condition will still be playable? And none of this shit comes with instructions anymore, right, so booklets and inserts are not vital?

Also, just like Switch, there's no difference between physical and digital games (besides size, transferability, convenience), correct? And if a game did have DLC, that downloads to the system, but I assume only works when I have the physical disc in?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 11:41 (five years ago) link

Used games are fine - the DLC you miss varies on the game. For fighting games, for instance, they often include an extra character, which I wouldn't want to miss. Most of the time like you say it's some cosmetic DLC or an FPS weapon or something like that. Honestly, though - there are always so many sales at any given time on digital and physical, I see no reason to ever buy used unless it's something rare, out of print, or not available on PSN.

There's even less difference between physical and digital on PS4 because most games require a full install, which can be between 10-50 GB! And yeah, on the disc versions you need the disc in the tray to play DLC.

If you're going to get into a heavily multiplayer game like Street Fighter or Call of Duty it's tempting to just get digital for the slightly better load times and ease of access.

*That said, I'm a proponent of physical media in general and say always go with physical if you can, because who knows when the digital apocalypse will occur and you'll lose access to your stuff. It does annoy me when "GOTY" type editions come out, and nowadays it's almost always the base disc + a download code for the season pass, when last generation you would get everything on disc.

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

Dammit Josh now you got me jonesing to take the plunge, I'm going to the mall today and might not be able to resist going into Gamestop for that used Slim I ogled last week...

Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

Josh when was the last time you had a mainstream console? There might be last gen games also worth checking out... Have you played RDR? GTA V? Skyrim?

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link

not to mention all the non-switch indies, like inside for example

||||||||, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

Sum total of all I have owned, ever (give or take a Coleco and Atari 7800, iirc): OG Nintendo, GameCube, Wii (which I hacked and loaded with shit), Switch, now PS4. Never had a powerful HD console, never played games on a computer, so there's a big backlog of stuff. Would consider Red Dead Redemption, no interest in GTA (I don't think) or Skyrim (I don't think). I like the immersive worlds (from what I have seen) of the SoulsBorne games, and also I'm a sucker for cool graphics (which being a Nintendo guy I've never really gotten). I had never played Doom but have been enjoying it on Switch, so might buy it again to have it run and look better. My like of Doom is leading me toward Wolfenstein, too (and maybe II).

Will PS4 play PS3 games, like Fallout New Vegas or Red Dead Redemption? Or do I have to pay for yet another subscription service?

I think I'm pretty set on indies for the Switch, there are plenty. The reason I got a PS4 was for the heavy hitters and exclusives.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

PS4 is not backwards compatible with PS3, but there's a (paid?) streaming service that lets you play PS3 games on the PS4.

Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

Bah. See, I don't want to do that, given how slow I am I like the limitation of having a few games on hand.

Inside, fwiw, is supposed to be coming to the Switch. But today I cancelled my nebulous preorder of Dark Souls for the Switch, because for the life of me I cannot imagine playing it on such a little screen. Hollow Knight, otoh, is a joy on the Switch screen.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

Ooooh there's a lot of previous gen games you can check out then, like Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, Batman: Arkham Asylum... many of which have gotten remasters on PS4.

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

Yeah, would totally appreciate any must-buy list. Though I do think I am largely set with several hundred hours of potential play on the titles already on my radar (in addition to games I have on the switch).

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

(Like a very stable genius, I bought TLOU and the Mass Effect trilogy for my PS3. Anyway, Mass Effect is good!)

Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link

Prey maybe. The Dishonored games. Nier Automata. the Just Cause games. maybe AssCreed Black Flag. u're not interested in JRPGs right or i'd highly recommend Persona 5. Titanfall 2 has a fantastic short/tight single player campaign. there's a Bioshock collection you should check out if you haven't played any of them. have you played any of the Dead Rising games? 1 + 2 are both great. deus ex: mankind divided isn't great but it's good. the new tomb raider reboots are good. some of the more recent saint's rows games are fun. if you've never played spelunky now you can.

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

Don't feel bad Lee, I've still got dozens of titles in my 360/PS3 backlogs

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

What's the word on Hellblade? I think that might be my first buy.

Martin Landau Ballet (Leee), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link

What are good jrpgs for ps4 ? I have persona 5 and a tales game, that’s it.

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link

Hellblade looks good but I get the sense that it's a walking sim and/or on rails.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link

I could be tempted to get a PS4 if Red Dead Red II gets good reviews.

Also, in a really impressed-old-person way, I just think the graphics on things lately are amaaaazing. Like they're even starting to solve the uncanny valley, almost.

That said - I had a PS3 for ages but I kept forgetting it was there. I really dug Portal 2 and Braid. And Red Dead/GTA IV, but they made my hand hurt if I played them too much.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

Also I can't imagine anything on a PS4 would be better than BOTW

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

What's wonderful about BOTW (which I have watched my kid play) is its innocence. It's deep and rigorous but you're not stabbing zombie spider monsters in the ass or blowing off bad guy heads. It's ... pure? I may like Dunkey more than most (I think he's funny) but his silly Zelda goof really captures that game's magic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EvbqxBUG_c

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

Ok I don't think I need to see any more by this guy, but that was great

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link

Also - drop kicking the skull! I didn't know you could do that.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

if i got a PS4 it would just be for Bloodborne. then again that game rules so hard it would be worth it.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link

I don't want to get any more ahead of myself than I already am, but how would you differentiate the three Dark Souls and Bloodborne? From what I've read, everyone loves (in some sense of the word) the first Dark Souls, many don't like the second (I don't know why), people are mixed but generally like the gameplay of III and it seems people ... like Bloodborne best of all, to the extent that playing it first might ruin Dark Souls for you?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link

xxxp oh lord the chicken-moblin war

Nhex, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 04:29 (five years ago) link

i dont think playing Bloodborne first would ruin anyone's experience playing Dark Souls. not sure if this is the right analogy but perhaps it would be like ruining Super Mario Bros. 3 by playing Super Mario World first.

the big draw for Dark Souls is the world design, the way everything is connected, the way it all feels like a real place. your first time through DS will be special because no other game has that tight interconnected design. DS3 comes close but DS2 is a sprawling mess that doesn't make any sense w too many levels.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 10:52 (five years ago) link

xxp Souls games have more build and weapon variety and tend to encourage a more cautious playstyle than Bloodborne. pvp is also more prominent in the former.
I don't think playing one first will ruin the others beyond the inevitable burn out aspect of several hours long games

chihuahuau, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 10:53 (five years ago) link

So nothing on good ps4 jrpgs? Please help!

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 11:22 (five years ago) link

persona5 if smt is your thing

chihuahuau, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 11:53 (five years ago) link

ni no kuni ii is out now right? i have only played the first but it made me feel very warm and fuzzy so i imagine 2 is great!

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:56 (five years ago) link

also: if you missed valkyria chronicles the first time around, there is a remaster on the ps4. also the 4th game in the series is coming out in september, by the time you get through all of the other stuff on this list you'll wanna play that one. (don't worry about 2 and 3: i played the... second one i think, it's on PSP, and as far as i can tell they are all more or less discrete stories)

final fantasy xv is... something. i didn't get that far tbh before other games distracted me, but i hope to go back at some point! there are some awesome weird little moments of "hanging out with the boys" that i love, and the SUPER WEIRD detail of the food they make when they camp (on coleman camping equipment) was so weird i think about it more often than i probably should. if you want a more, uh, traditional final fantasy experience?, FFX and FFX-2 also got remasters if you wanna play those and haven't before (i can say FFX was great and probably the last great "normal" numbered FF (FFXII was also great but by no means 'normal')).

i've heard good things about I Am Setsuna.

some people call the yakuza games RPGs which is a little weird to me but they're so far wonderful. apparently zero is a good place to start, but I am starting with Kiwami, a remake of the first game, and enjoying it thoroughly. Kiwami 2 comes out later this year, 0 and 6 are out there, and 3/4/5 are supposed to get barely-remastered re-releases on PS4 at some point (fingers crossed for stateside).

i never got into the ys series, but there are some of those on ps4 and some folks say they rule.

ditto for trails of cold steel, also on ps4 now.

monster hunter world is extremely not my shit, but you might like it. everyone else seems to!

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link

don't think trails of cold steel has an english ps4 version unfortunately, it was on ps3. if you're looking for turn based jrpg then persona 5 is the big one and there's not much else unless you want to play like an atelier game or something low-rent like that. valkyria chronicles is turn based but it's closer to an XCOM type game than a jrpg. dragon quest 11 is out in September.

lots of good options for action jrpg though:
nier automata
ys viii
tales of berseria
the dark souls/bloodborne games obviously if you count those as jrpgs (they totally are)
ni no kuni 2 is alright

ciderpress, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link

jRPGs are tricky to recommend in general because you have the people who just want to battle and skip through the cutscenes and you have the people who just want to hang out with some fun characters and be told a story and mash through battles and the entire spectrum in between, then you have the people who loved chrono trigger but think all modern ones are anime trash and the weebs who like the trashy anime and get bored by the underwritten old/retro style ones and in the end you can have 100 people play the same jrpg and come away sounding like they played 100 different games.

ciderpress, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

dang. I've never played a Final Fantasy since NES days when I played the first one & maybe the second. I understand these are good but I don't even know where to start

I do have persona 5 already which I wanna start but summer's starting & I'll be on the road a bunch so I don't wanna start it now

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

my personal understanding of final fantasy is that 6 thru 9 are classics, everything before that is too primitive and everything after that is too messy. 12 has a bit of a following though I think & I haven't tried it.

ciderpress, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

dunno how many of them have PS4 ports though

ciderpress, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link


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