Lucinda Williams C/D?

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I was listening to "Essence" the other day, and I know it was pretty underrated when it came out, not least because "Car Wheels" was so massively overrated, but I think "Essence" might be her best record. At the very least this is one of the best songs called "Blue:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0_AVhvdpgw

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 June 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link

yeah i think that is my fave of hers.

tylerw, Friday, 15 June 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link

Of her guitar army doubles, I dug most of Down Where The Spirit Meets The Bone but thought it should have been even closer to the bone, ditching a few fatty clunkers, especially the endless closer, but it's easy to skip, they all are of course---then Ghosts of Highway 20 I tempted to say is an exorcism or six, but really it's how to live with the ghosts you can't shake, lighting up the barn, the sweatlodge, smoke 'em if you got 'em. Woody Guthrie's "House of Earth," completed by Lucinda, is not one that can be finished, with its shifting, going deeper and sidewise and up a little (the slurs totally work in this ballad, and I'm totally used to them after all these years anyway).
Re-recorded Sweet Old World, now This Sweet Old World, with re-recorded, prev. unreleased material from the original SOW sessions, is real good too, though I haven't done any comparative listening.
Next up: a collab w Charles LLoyd and the Marvels, awright,

dow, Saturday, 16 June 2018 03:03 (five years ago) link

"House of Earth" is on Ghosts of Highway 20, and an example of how she can still go guitar armyless when necessary.

dow, Saturday, 16 June 2018 03:06 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

Vanished Gardens (the album w/Charles LLoyd and the Marvels) is really good stuff.

calzino, Friday, 23 November 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

Indeed it is. I especially like the re-do of "Dust."

Jazzbo, Friday, 23 November 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

beautifully desolate lyrics, had never heard that one before.

calzino, Friday, 23 November 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

From before the stroke?

Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link

I know nothing about her life.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 02:24 (five years ago) link

Was joking. Don’t know if there was such an event, assume there probably wasn’t, it’s just that she sings as if there was.

Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link

Glad to see World Without Tears here. I like it every bit as much as Car Wheels.

I know a lot of people think she's spent at this point, but there are some gems to be found among her recent albums: "A Kiss Like Your Kiss," in particular, is stunning.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 03:40 (five years ago) link

At the very least her most recent albums *sound* great.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 04:20 (five years ago) link

I also got off the bus after West (which contained one of her best ever songs, "What If?") and I highly doubt she'll make another great record. The re-recording of Sweet Old World was terrible.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 08:05 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Saw Lucinda with Charles Lloyd and the Marvels featuring Bill Frisell, Greg Leisz and more tonight for free at the Library of Congress. Sounded good. I haven’t heard the album yet. Lloyd’s horn playing worked well with her ragged slurred vocals. They did Dylan’s Masters of War, plus a bunch of songs from the album.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 December 2018 05:23 (five years ago) link

Finally listened to some of the album this morning (after seeing the gig last night). A real collaboration. She defers a lot to Lloyd (who once played with Howlin Wolf among others). At the gig last night, Lloyd played piano on a classical feeling composition with local DC violinist Chelsea Green to open the night, then he and the band played for quite a bit, and finally Lucinda came out to join them.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link

Lloyd (who once played with Howlin Wolf among others)

Err, he's also had a rather esteemed career as a leader and released dozens of incredible records. Playing with Howlin Wolf when he was in high school is hardly his claim to fame

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link

I knew he was a leader etc., but I only recently heard of the Howlin Wolf connection. Sorry I didn't make that more clear

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link

The Lucinda W & Charles Lloyd & the Marvels Vanished Gardens album is Geoff Himes #1 Roots album in his top 10 for Paste.

curmudgeon, Friday, 14 December 2018 17:01 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

her tough new album is better than anything she's released in some time ... Stuart Mathis kills all over it, and the dark mean rock songs really suit her late-period voice

so much dgaf old person swag

Brad C., Saturday, 25 April 2020 00:32 (four years ago) link

That sounds great. Saw someone compare it to Ragged Glory the other day, which definitely raised my interest.

last updated a group of five done twelve times ago (geoffreyess), Saturday, 25 April 2020 05:03 (four years ago) link

The band sounds great.

She sounds terrible. I had to stop listening to there for a while because her slurring was interfering with my memory of those first four albums.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 April 2020 13:33 (four years ago) link

She's splitting the difference between Exile-era Mick Jagger and post-car wreck Jan Berry, what's not to like?

Together Again Or (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 April 2020 14:25 (four years ago) link

Let me count the ways1

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 April 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link

her voice has always been an acquired taste, and it has certainly gotten rougher over the years ... I think she uses and writes for it well, it reminds me of how Dylan has adapted

I'm sure my appreciation for the way she sounds now has been enhanced by seeing her live a couple of times in recent years

Brad C., Saturday, 25 April 2020 17:11 (four years ago) link

I need to check this new one out, slurred vocals and all

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 April 2020 05:53 (three years ago) link

the wrecked bluesy vocals are a feature I like about this album very much!

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 10:09 (three years ago) link

a whole album of it though, it gets a bit too much for me.

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link

The slurred vocals aren't what bothers me about the new one; the plodding arrangements and the ham-fisted lyrics are the problem.

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Monday, 27 April 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

After a few listens, I like the attitude and production but as with most post-Essence stuff I just don't feel like the songs are there. I don't mind it chugging along in the background, but not much really grabs me.

To remind myself, I put on Sweet Old World between spins of the new one, and even the middling stuff on there is more tuneful than the new stuff.

I don't think it's really going for tuneful though. I dig it, certainly not the most "enjoyable" listen but it's definitely arresting. parts of it sound like if Courtney Love tried to do her own Rid of Me.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I get that it's more a vibe record than a songs record. I guess I just like her better with songs. That said, the vibe suits her.

one year passes...

Took some getting used to, but it's really tight, and now I get the songs.on both counts like she's really absorbed Pretenders debut, also the guitarist-violinist is deep into Link Wray sum of my NScene 2020 ballot comments.
This year, from Essential Bob Dylan Covers?
I just first listened to Lucinda Williams' Bob's Back Pages: A Night of Bob Dylan Songs,(2020 download. on CD later in 2021?) which is a lot to take in, quality and quantity and range and depth (of dug-in heels, writing and choice-wise), but clearly she's wide awake all night, no slurs, lots of teeth, with her hot crusty railroad combo from Good Souls Better Angels, I think (it's a download, so no fancy info). The theme, one of the recurring themes, is restless frustration---"I look like I'm movin', but I'm standin' still," but never shut up. The dread "To Make You Feel My Love" is the ringer, and closer, but works (and follows "Idiot Wind"), by far the best version I've heard, of which there have of course been a shitload. "Everything's Broken," "Political World," and "Man of Peace" make one ornery triptych early on. "Queen Jane Approximately"is drinking wedding band folk punk change of pace, nice. Was going to pick some from YouTube, but can't decide.

― dow, Friday, June 18, 2021

Right now I'm enjoying her Petty set:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXehWRXraww

dow, Friday, 25 June 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

Fave of her Stones covers so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lftYfsL_HCM

dow, Friday, 25 June 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUh7yx5BzD4

dow, Friday, 25 June 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pP6lCczab8

dow, Friday, 25 June 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link

Would have fit on Good Souls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVirb7_8NHw

dow, Friday, 25 June 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgF6lIlHV8s

dow, Friday, 25 June 2021 21:31 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

I had no idea she had a stroke last year. As of a few weeks ago, she apparently walks with a cane, has lingering pain in her left arm and leg, and is unable to play guitar. Saw a picture of her performing just the other night and I think she was sitting down.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 August 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link

Aw man, it's that bad? It could be much worse obviously, but still, very sad to hear that. I've only seen her twice in concert, both within the last eight years - I don't know how much more she can recover, but it'll be tough seeing her this way at the next show.

birdistheword, Sunday, 8 August 2021 03:00 (two years ago) link

Has retrospectively made the late '18 exchange upthread between Soto & Redd go from o_O to O_O.

“Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 August 2021 03:25 (two years ago) link

Yeesh. Good thing this place isn't Twitter.

birdistheword, Sunday, 8 August 2021 03:56 (two years ago) link

well, yeah

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 August 2021 12:18 (two years ago) link

Has retrospectively made the late '18 exchange upthread between Soto & Redd go from o_O to O_O.

Maybe I should finally learn the difference.

No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 August 2021 13:12 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

dang i did not know about all these covers. lucinda still rules!!

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 September 2021 22:27 (two years ago) link

Yep---as I was recently hyping some friends via email (more details upthread):

Of all the Covid-alibi placeholder covers sets I've heard, most of my faves (other than Chrissie Hynde's rainy day Dylan tapes), are in Lucinda Williams' Lu's Jukebox series:, incl Petty, Dylan, Stones, a round of 60s country, and Southern Soul--from Memphis to Muscle Shoals and More. She relishes "The Games People Play," dishin' the condition. I expected some melodrama being dragged over the gravel in "A Rainy Night In Georgia," but no, it's rueful, wide awake in the middle of the night, and what else is new--she's ready to get aboard "I Can't Stand The Rain," "Take Me To The River," and some I didn't know, like "Main Street Mission." Ode To Billy Joe" is the only dud. unwisely begging comparison. Otherwise, if you like her at all, I' think you'll like this.

dow, Saturday, 18 September 2021 02:09 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I love this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVRGoDoI5_k

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 11 October 2021 03:48 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Coming to St. Louis---good recap of last couple years, conversation with her and husband Tom: https://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/music/after-two-challenging-years-music-was-healing-for-singer-songwriter-lucinda-williams/article_b118e7e0-f4be-5ba0-b654-557470aed88f.html

dow, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 22:12 (two years ago) link

I mentioned the Lu's Jukebox series as good Covid placeholders---did not know they were from Covid benefits, for musicians who couldn't tour.

dow, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 22:14 (two years ago) link


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