Autechre: Classic or Dud?

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link to article?

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

i'd still rather listen to tri repeate, untilted, oversteps than any of their recent work..controp maybe

Slippage (Ross), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link

xpost they did a review a few weeks ago, but it wasn't by jo3 muggs: https://www.residentadvisor.net/reviews/22429

the last jo3 muggs thing with autechre at RA was this, but it was a couple years ago: https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/2756

btw i don't know who jo3 muggs is

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link

he reviews the electronic music in The Wire.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

oops i didn't look at the date on that piece, fucking facebook

you bet, nancy (map), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

If it's still called critical beats then that column.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

look i don't mean to diss jo3 muggs i just clicked on a linky link to a year-old article and didn't likey like lol sorry

you bet, nancy (map), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link

I don't think it's been called Critical Beats in years

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:07 (five years ago) link

I haven't bought it for a long time.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:09 (five years ago) link

i remember "Critical Beats". as a name it sounded like dj spooky was mad and wanted to hit someone with an "assemblage"

you bet, nancy (map), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:16 (five years ago) link

I actually thought the RA review of NTS Sessions was pretty good. The enthusiasm convinced me to check it out.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 14 June 2018 05:34 (five years ago) link

Haha yeah great mag, but I always hated the section titles in Wire. Especially 'Critical Beats'- isn't that track 3 off the first Chemical Brothers album? Jo3 Mu9gs is a good writer on the whole. Don't know about the RA article though

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 14 June 2018 08:04 (five years ago) link

S0m3 r34lly 1nt3ns3 g00gl3pr00f1ng h3r3

boxedjoy, Thursday, 14 June 2018 10:20 (five years ago) link

Again: they haven't had those section titles in years

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:13 (five years ago) link

jo3's piece on elseq seemed pretty good to me. they're hard to write about, noz nailed the current stuff in a way i've never seen before

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link

So this was pretty great - far more abstract than their previous live sets I thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR_0gW6XGlg

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 25 June 2018 08:06 (five years ago) link

i'd have found that a tough listen i think, would have fallen on my knees in gratitude when the beat came in at 44:00. the guy recording seemed to enjoy it though, maybe the sheer weight of noise in the live setting would make a difference. 33:20 ftw either way.

lana del boy (ledge), Monday, 25 June 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link

!!! thank u Matthew <3<3<3

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Monday, 25 June 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link

It was a pretty challenging listen in that context, especially since it was a festival crowd and probably only 30% of people would have been up to date on where they're at these days. But I liked the fact that they tried something more interesting than 4/4 banger approach. Much as I love it when they do that.
Same person (not me!) recorded the Melbourne show the night before, and it's obvious they have a lot of control and flexibility when they perform these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T83QrIIbhQI

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 25 June 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link

can't get enough of nts you guys

i want to get cancer (map), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:42 (five years ago) link

Has anyone actually received CDs/vinyl or are they not actually available yet? Site still says "pre-order".

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:55 (five years ago) link

I got an email a few days ago:

Dear Customer,

Thank you for your pre-order of the Autechre - NTS Sessions. We are writing to inform you that your order is now due to dispatch from our warehouse on the week of the 30th of July. You will receive a dispatch notification when it ships.

If you have any queries about your order contact us at supp✧✧✧@bleepsto✧✧✧.c✧✧.

Best wishes,

Bleep Stores Support

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link

That Tasmania bootleg is worth it just for the guy recording it

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 08:09 (five years ago) link

Tokyo ga arimasu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kVtwZ7cEE8

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 12:21 (five years ago) link

lol at the bit in Tassie gig where he turns the recorder off for a few seconds after being scolded

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

saved. I love that album.

Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Monday, 16 July 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link

As I say in the piece, it was my entry point for them.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 16 July 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link

me too. I definitely hear it as their 'purest' album. Nice words btw

Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Monday, 16 July 2018 23:56 (five years ago) link

Lovely piece - the Gelk description made me smile. That record CANNOT be 10 years old, it’s sparkling clean and new every time I hear it.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link

My favorite line:

"It’s at that point that the album really starts to reveal itself, and become so beautiful it’s like watching an endlessly spinning, deceptively intricate sculpture of chrome and glass twirl in the sunlight."

This album definitely took me a while to get into it. And I remember playing it a TON during the summer of '98 at the coffee shop I worked at. This also reminds me that Music Has the Right to Children will be celebrating its 20th anniversary this fall. Oy.

octobeard, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 07:09 (five years ago) link

yea this was the album that really convinced me these dudes were brilliant after all. I've retroactively come to appreciate their earlier work (especially Chaistic and Amber) but LP5 was the first album where it really clicked. so much cool stuff on the disc but I think what really got me was the way the rhythm on "Fold4, Wrap5" radically shifts tempo in the middle of each measure, as though it trips over itself and falls down the stairs over and over again. one of the first times I've heard electronic music used to do non-human things that wasn't just playing at 250 BPM or whatever.

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link

Tri repetae was my intro but LP5 sealed it for me

Ross, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 13:42 (five years ago) link

Had no idea this was one was so highly regarded. I love it, of course (I love every Ae release), but it's never been my favorite because I tend to think of it as Fold4, Under BOAC, Arch Carrier, and some other stuff (I have never cared for Rae).

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link

LP5 was my intro to autechre as well. I remember having downloaded a bunch of idm-ish stuff and listening to it while playing games on my computer. I still remember my "what is this?" reaction the first time I heard arch carrier. That track opened up a whole new world for me.

silverfish, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link

I sold my lp5 CD in a backlash mode at a time when i'd encountered some younger IDM nerds IRL who were annoying tits.

Also a lot of it is well soppy and I still don't much like soppy-techre ;-)

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link

it's definitely their 'pop' album, might even pass the old grey whistle test, acroyear2 in particular.

gelk description lol otm, always loved that melody.

i like this interview which comes from a slightly different angle from the usual gearhead pieces - i don't do enough listening in the dark:
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/autechre-something-happens-when-you-listen-to-music-in-the-dark-1.3558048

it also clued me in to these nts dj mixes which i think passed me by at the time:
https://www.nts.live/shows/guests/episodes/autechre-22nd-january-2016
https://www.nts.live/shows/solid-steel/episodes/solid-steel-radio-show-2212016-hour-1-autechre

lana del boy (ledge), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link

unperson's piece is interesting because it seems to focus on the tracks I think about the least. if I don't have time to listen to the he whole thing I tend to skip the first two cos they're a bit bonkers and frenetic and go straight for Rae which is one of their prettiest songs. interesting that they included Melve which, well it's very short and low-concept and not much like the rest of their stuff. I'd like to know more about how that track came about

Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

kickin' off the morning with the Quadrange EP and so far that's been an excellent decision

frogbs, Friday, 20 July 2018 13:27 (five years ago) link

Just got an email that the NTS Sessions physical boxes are being delayed an additional two weeks. Grrr...

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 20 July 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTg2ruTYvQo

j., Saturday, 21 July 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

My copy of the NTS 8CD box is on the way...

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 13 August 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

I've lost count of the amount of times with Autechre that I've heard a new piece of music of theirs (to me) that initially sounds confusing and inscrutable, only for something to click and suddenly it makes perfect sense. It's like it initially keeps the listener at arms length before saying "right, I'm going to let you in now" and what once was flat and inscrutable suddenly becomes like being in the middle of some 3D aural landscape.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 13 August 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

Their songs are the aural equivalent of a stereogram

octobeard, Monday, 13 August 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

Didn't know I'd be getting hit with local duties and tax on top of the shipping cost. That was a fun surprise.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link

Their songs are the aural equivalent of a stereogram

― octobeard, Monday, August 13, 2018 8:22 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This really needs to go in that hall of fame thread

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 23:55 (five years ago) link

Okay so I've been listening to NTS a bit more and I've come to the conclusion that:

- It's cool to have an almost endless stream of new Autechre
- I get jam-band Autechre as a concept - it totally makes sense
- But also it's a bit of a slog innit? I mean, I don't wanna sound like a lightweight but some of these tracks go on for so long without really developing a whole lot. I do miss when it felt a little more composed, a little less like I'm listening to a generative algorithm, and they'd fit an idea or five into 5-6 minutes

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

This food is so great! If only the portions weren't so generous!

I jest, sort of. I would suggest going back to the 2015 live sessions for more varied and idea-heavy stuff, albeit with a similar sonic palette.

home, home and deranged (ledge), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

thesis: I get jam-band Autechre as a concept - it totally makes sense
antithesis: some of these tracks go on for so long without really developing a whole lot
synthesis: ??

home, home and deranged (ledge), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

IF Ae = JamBand AND NTS_Sessions(AvgSongLength) / NTS_Sessions(TrackDevelopment) < DesiredRatio THEN LikesJamBands = 0

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link


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