Why are there so few female film directors?

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blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe we're not proving anything ;)

Reggiano Jackson (gabbneb), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

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blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I knew all of these names already and have seen all of their films, mostly in small cinemas in foreign countries.

bnw, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

glad 2 see weve solved this issue good work everyone

Lamp, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes. Job done. What's next?

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

that hardly anyone wld be familiar with

Uh mostly yes gabbnebb, I'm not film-illiterate but Sofia and Amy Heckerling (who I love!) are the only ones I know just by hearing their names. Heckerling, who in spite of being a big name and director of well-liked movies had her last film buried straight to DVD for really no reason.

I mean you shouldn't have to do film festival circuits to be able to prove whatever point it is you are making.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

How do you strike a balance between wanting to entertain a mass audience, and also wanting to write something that's true, and maybe even a little painful?

Heckerling: Well, there's another element involved, and that's knowing that there really are young people out there who care a great deal about what you say to them. There are these images and characters you want to give them to look up to, vs. what you're going to be allowed to do or say. It can be something as simple as a girl dressing a certain way. Do you dress her up so that she's comfortable, or so she'll look pretty, or because you like the way it looks? Is it too sexual? Do you want your daughter to have to dress that way and worry about it? It's tough.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Gillian Armstrong
Nora Ephron
Phyllida Lloyd

Reggiano Jackson (gabbneb), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

harmony korine should be a woman's name

velko, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

And Sofia, believe it or not, MIGHT have a nepotism factor benefiting her. I know, I know, it's some grande challops.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

antonia bird

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

miranda july is actually a dude

velko, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

uh no

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

mirando

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh why did I look up Heckerling's filmography ;_;

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think there is a single (American) director named on this thread who you need to go to a film festival to see, at least if you live in a major American city like most Ilxors.

Reggiano Jackson (gabbneb), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf is naming female film directors proving, exactly?

― Lamp, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:33 (8 minutes ago) Permalink

that eventually we will have enough names to poll them on their physical attractiveness

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

cat power

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

well this thread didn't work out very well. Although I'm glad this random list of names has proven once and for all that there's no glass ceiling of sexism in the film industry. Tuomas the lone voice of reason (oddly)

Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Wim Wenders
Akira Kurosawa
McG

ˈɒksnɑrd (jeff), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh gabbnebb I guess the thing is even most people in major American cities are probably not watching those movies AND (everyone forgets) not everyone lives in major American cities...before Netflix most of these wld be hard to RENT in less than 250k population cities. I mean, if you asked a non-ILXor person, say a coworker at the office or another person on the bus, to name even 25 directors it's really unlikely a woman wld come up, tho you are doing an A+ job at deluding yrself hey good job.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Why are there so few female anythings at the top of any industry or art?

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

it was hollywood's blatant sexism that prevented leslie nielsen from moving into the director's chair

velko, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

btw Edward III I <3 you

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

abbott i agree w/ you generally but i think the a decent % of ppl could name popular female directors michel gondry or ridley scott

Lamp, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

No woman has ever won best director, and only three have ever been nominated: Lina Wertmüller for 1976's Seven Beauties, Jane Campion for 1993's The Piano and Sofia Coppola for 2003's Lost in Translation.

One nearly every decade since the 1970s hey female directors are all over the place.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

It's weird that I'm having to argue the thread title is an accurate & valid question!

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

That's how ignorance works, let's just pretend sexism isn't an issue and make some jokes.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

i agree w/ u abbott

s1ocki, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

but i still support making some jokes

s1ocki, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

It's pretty impressive that film has been around less that 125 years and is full of institutionalized sexism.

I am all about the female name joeks too btw.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

you are doing an A+ job at deluding yrself hey good job.

i'm not making the point you think i'm making, but good job deluding yrself

Reggiano Jackson (gabbneb), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

what point are you making then?

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Why are there so few female anythings at the top of any industry or art?

fair (and fairly easily) answered question - but in the case of this particular industry I wonder what it is about film/directing that makes sexist "old boys' club" networks more enduring than in, say (as already mentioned), music or photography or literature or whatever. I mean, there are probably more female heads of state than there are well-known, mainstream female film directors... for an industry widely perceived as deeply liberal (and one that congratulates itself regularly for being so - heyo Oscars!) this seems like a rather glaring incongruity.

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Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i would have agreed with abbott except i read the fantastic list of popular successful female directors provided in this thread so now im wondering why there are so few male directors working nowadays

Lamp, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 <3 <3

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

guess:

considering how alpha-male assholish most film sets are, film studios probably prefer to have another alpha-male type on set to "handle" the stars (especially the male ones) and it's believed that women couldn't do it. it's tough for even the best female directors to get work; if you're a female director and you have a couple of hits in a row, you'll be okay, but if you have a single flop you're in trouble. a male director can have five flops in a row and still get work. there's pretty much no excuse for someone like kathyrn bigelow to find it difficult to land projects considering the fact that she's one of the best directors in her genre (unless she's just someone who takes her time working on projects.)

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

what point are you making then?

― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Could be asked for 99% of gabbnebb's posts.

ian, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

and yeah as Abbott points out this is the YOUNGEST medium on the planet - its weird that older, more heavily institutionalized mediums with traditions of excluding women are somehow actually more open than the film industry

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Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

what point are you making then?

gabbneb's one and only point is that he (purportedly) knows shit about stuff

Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

No, no, I want his answer.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Video games are a younger medium and shit's got less pussy than Melmac.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

it was hollywood's blatant sexism that prevented leslie nielsen from moving into the director's chair

― velko, Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:52 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

surely you can't be serious

bnw, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

did you just make an alf joke

bnw, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I rofld

Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

actually I was just wondering the other day, are there any female orchestra conductors?

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

yes ALF eats cats get it?

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

fair (and fairly easily) answered question - but in the case of this particular industry I wonder what it is about film/directing that makes sexist "old boys' club" networks more enduring than in, say (as already mentioned), music or photography or literature or whatever.

I really do think getting to a position to secure enough money and resources to make a feature film is one of the biggest obsctacles here, though how gender works in all that is kinda complicated. With the other three fields you mention, a person can work with much less money and/or by herself to create something.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

btw I <3 you too abbott iirc

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Great film! I saw Chytilová's follow-up The Fruit of Paradise but don't remember anything other than bewilderment.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

My favourite film! Got to see it on the big screen a few times, the best was last year with a p raucous audience of mainly students who were v nonplussed but loved it

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

There's already an excellent blu-ray of this from Second Run, a label that's shown far greater commitment to East European cinema than Criterion. They also offer other Chytilová films:

https://www.secondrundvd.com/release_daisiesBD.html

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link


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