Asterix : Search and Destroy

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Peak period for me would be roughly 68-72, and especially

Asterix and the Laurel Wreath (my number one favourite)
Asterix and the Roman Agent
Asterix and the Chieftain's Shield
Asterix and the Cauldron
Asterix in Switzerland

Ward Fowler, Monday, 11 June 2018 10:36 (five years ago) link

The Nicolas stories had nice English paperbacks in the 80s; they've been reissued as fancy Phaidon hardcovers, which in the usual Phaidon style are pretty to look at but annoying to hold and read. Either way, they're great - quite low-key, and excellent translations as usual by Anthea Bell. They're closer in spirit to Emil & The Detectives than Asterix.

The Goscinny stories are incredibly consistent - almost every book was a favourite at one point or another in my childhood. and it's amazing how different the stories are, given that the main characters never change from book to book. Probably easier to list the ones I like less: Great Crossing, Asterix the Gaul, Belgium - but that's about it.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 11 June 2018 11:07 (five years ago) link

I suppose Chieftain's Shield is the exception to the rule about the characters never changing - it's a weirdly deep character dive into Vitalstatix - I always felt quite sad, finishing the book, when the character returns to usual self.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 11 June 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link

I saw the first Petit Nicolas movie when it came out and remember it as pretty close to the source material. Those books are great - just as chaotic as Asterix in their way. Stuff I remember includes the kids strategizing to attack older kids by kicking them in the shins and the one where the rich kid shows up on picture taking day dressed as an astronaut.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 11 June 2018 12:34 (five years ago) link

Laurel Wreath is a great one, it's interesting when the tone deviates slightly for a whole book and LW is almost a little salty by comparison. The in medias res style beginning, Vitalstatistix's rather aggressive hubris in the face of his Brother In Law's flexing and the weird mood that Asterix and Obelix are in on the first page, not to mention the drunken Zigackly! and Ferpectly!

MaresNest, Monday, 11 June 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I noticed a little while ago that the Wiki entry for Laurel Wreath claims

This is by far the most adult-oriented of all the Asterix stories. It includes drunkenness, human slavery, debauchery, particularly graphic violence, androgyny, and instances of humour requiring (for Asterix) an unusually sophisticated knowledge of art and history to fully understand it. There is an implicit acknowledgement of this in that Dogmatix (a favourite with younger readers) makes only a token (2 panel) appearance, and the lettering in the original version of this album uses a style more cursive and difficult to read than usual, again discouraging younger readers (the updated version released in 2004 uses the same lettering style as all the other Asterix stories).

But I like it as much for all the family stuff, which again seems to cut a little deeper than in other Asterix albums - the conflict between the chief and his brother-in-law (the dinner party sequence at the beginning might just be Goscinny/Uderzo's finest moment), the alienated father and son reunited by Asterix and Obelix.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 06:12 (five years ago) link

No food on earth tastes as delicious as the grilled boars in Asterix look.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 09:53 (five years ago) link

*Scronch* *Scronch* *Scronch*

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 10:05 (five years ago) link

the conflict between the chief and his brother-in-law (the dinner party sequence at the beginning might just be Goscinny/Uderzo's finest moment)

ZIGACKLY!

chap, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link

thanks to this thread i've just laid down for the Asterix Omnibus that includes Laurel Wreath, Switzerland, Mansion of the Gods, plus I bought Chieftain's Shield separately. Can't wait to revisit these

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 10:58 (five years ago) link

That's a great run. I'll second Asterix the Legionary as a personal favorite

Vinnie, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

XP - Yeah that is a good selection, those are some of my very favourites.

Got a first edition hardback of Big Fight in the post from eBay today, was never sure about it though, I remember really not liking the transformation of Getafix, as a kid.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Was down in London for a few days, and managed to get to the Goscinny exhibition at the Jewish Museum in Camden - highly recommended to anyone with an interest in post-war European humour comics. The exhibition is smallish, but very nicely presented and contains a surprising number of original pages. I had never seen an actual page from an Asterix album before and here there are five, including the first page of Laurel Wreath; there are also pages from Iznogoud, Ompa-pa, a western strip by the legendary Jijé, and some really gorgeous Nicholas originals - I took a shaky snap of this one:

http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa362/Andrew_Littlefield/P1030584_zpsjlhbmbs4.jpg

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 8 July 2018 11:06 (five years ago) link

I must get to see this soon!

So I was knocking around on eBay yesterday, I've been trying to complete a set of hardback first editions and I'm looking at ...The Gaul, so expensive for what isn't really a very good story, but I found out that there are officially sanctioned translations of a few of the stories into Scots slang, so I purchased 'Asterix The Gallus' and also TinTin's 'The Derk Isle' it's going to be pretty weird but interesting.

MaresNest, Monday, 16 July 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

RIP. My school French teacher always said her translations were funnier than the originals.

chap, Thursday, 18 October 2018 13:33 (five years ago) link

Nooooooooooooooooooo

MaresNest, Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link

Didn't realise she'd translated Kafka! Definitely gonna pick that up. Some of the old translations are dire!

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 18 October 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

This new one that just came out looks gorgeous but the story is ever so slight, sadly.

Maresn3st, Monday, 28 October 2019 12:51 (four years ago) link

I have recently watched the latest Asterix animation movie (the secret of the magic potion).
It's nicely done and manages to recreate the spirit/humour of the original books.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 28 October 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

but the story is ever so slight, sadly.

Has there been one since, generously, 1981 of which you wouldn’t say this?

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

You're right, Black Gold was the last decent one until the 2013 comeback of sorts with The Picts.

The three since then, I found to be really enjoyable, but this new one is lagging far behind, which is a shame because the art is absolutely on point.

Translation/interpretation must be so difficult and that's when I realised how vital Bell & Hockridge were to the process.

Maresn3st, Monday, 28 October 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

RIP Albert Uderzo (to be fair, I didnt even realize he was still alive)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 09:13 (four years ago) link

aw RIP

and I didn't post here to say RIP Anthea Bell, so that too

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 09:53 (four years ago) link

Oh no! But what an incredible legacy.

I read an Asterix book for the first time in years recently, Asterix and the Cauldron. It’s not one of the best - although the marketplace scene is a classic (the “BOOOOOOOAAAARSSSS” bit) (and the avant-garde theatre troupe) (and other bits, probably).

Uderzo’s drawings of Obelix are incredible throughout, though - it’s amazing how much facial expression he gets out of a character who doesn’t have a mouth 90% of the time.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 10:03 (four years ago) link

Wow. Love that <3

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:55 (four years ago) link

Mr Roy Oddling (what a name) is the Pete Best of the Asterix story here, I guess

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:58 (four years ago) link

"it’s amazing how much facial expression he gets out of a character who doesn’t have a mouth 90% of the time."

ahah. never thought of it that way !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:18 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

New one arrived today, again, the art is great, very faithful. The storyline looks like it might be a retread of '& The Roman Agent', but with a new-age type infiltrating the village and putting ppl at loggerheads.

One thing though, it's very dense, high panel count on most of the pages, more text.

MaresNest, Thursday, 26 October 2023 19:14 (five months ago) link

Have any of the new lots’ books been worth reading? Magic Carpet must’ve been the last semi-decent one from Uderzp.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 26 October 2023 19:27 (five months ago) link

I don't think these fake Asterixs are a patch on the fake Blake and Mortimers that Cinebooks put out.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 26 October 2023 19:36 (five months ago) link

The B&Ms have the benefit of never being that good in the first place

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 26 October 2023 19:52 (five months ago) link


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