Search & Destroy: John Coltrane

wow, so the complete "love supreme" masters, including the tapes referenced by kernfeld, were released in 2015, eh? i missed that one!

Yeah, there's a 2CD set called A Love Supreme: The Complete Masters. It's worth hearing.

not sure if this is the thread to ask for such things, but I'm interested in compiling a list of Coltrane-esque tributes, cut contemporaneously to his passing, or later, in the vein of Sonny Sharrock's "John's Children/ Many Mansions" or even Larry Coryell's "Search for the Higher Consciousness"... stuff that's aiming for what JC's 'Spiritual' does.... any suggestions would be appreciated.

you know about the comp "For JC - Love is Supreme", right?

I do not! Will seek— thank you!

Yuseef Lateef wrote 'Brother John' in tribute to Coltrane way back in '63. It's a cool groove, very much in a "My Favorite Things" vein.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_F8cFRO99c&list=PLFRQl8Ca9Qfaa6KWHhkIDlb5w6ZAeMpqk

Roland kirk cut several Coltrane tributes/covers iirc

this great new comp of japanese jazz from the 70s is packed with coltrane worship: https://spiritualjazz.bandcamp.com/album/spiritual-jazz-8-japan-pt-1

Yeah; I reviewed that compilation, and another contemporaneous one, for Burning Ambulance.

oh yeah, the j-jazz one is sounding awesome as well (missed that ode to workman actually features reggie workman!). pretty interesting — as you note, except for a few exceptions, i don't think i'd be able to distinguish this stuff from western jazz. these players had quickly absorbed and mastered the style.

i was looking up keitaro miho from the spiritual jazz comp and found this amazing looking record: All-Japan Male Volley Ball Team "The Road To Munich"

https://img.discogs.com/qqVIR7KK9fgiZU6d8C01wfXz2Xg=/fit-in/400x400/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-6946446-1430135632-4101.jpeg.jpg

thanks for all the suggestions!

another one: pharoah sanders' memories of j.w. coltrane from the excellent live at the east lp

Really enjoying this new John Coltrane album

New Trane! Crazy, can't wait to listen to this tonight

it's fucking nice and just completely what you'd expect I suppose, but in the best sense of that!

great to listen to this on my way in to work this morning, but i bet it's going to sound a hundred times better going back home again tonight

yeah — i mean, the urge to overrate it is probably high, but even on something as laid-back / workmanlike as "slow blues" (which they probably did just to blow off steam), it's wonderful to just luxuriate in the sound of this band. elvin jones! best drummer ever?

god this really was the best band ever

garrison's bowed solo in the first track, my god

I'm glad I have this thread bookmarked so I will be repeatedly reminded that I need to get this new one

this is really great, and i'm generally hot/cold on Coltrane

The full Antibes Love Supreme set is on the deluxe edition from 2002.

A couple good Coltrane tribute songs are. . .

Cliff Jordan — 'John Coltrane' (1973)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znr4KRw2au8

Abdullah Ibrahim — 'For John Coltrane' (1992)
https://vimeo.com/82702349

So friggin' excited to hear the "new" record.

Wasn't bowled over by the first "new" track tbh

but I mean, this is an unfuckwithable era of the quartet and there was nothing bad about it either, looking forward to hearing the whole record

I went through a phase when I had Live at Birdland on nonstop and this seems like the studio analogue to that record afaict

Good piece by Lewis Porter here:

http://wbgo.org/post/deep-dive-lewis-porter-considering-john-coltranes-lost-album-all-directions

this one popped up in my youtube subs, i'm liking it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJcpBWry04w

Got my copy of the 2CD version in today's mail.

this is really great, and i'm generally hot/cold on Coltrane

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Listening to Ole Coltrane today (first track, on repeat) and it's McCoy's album, or at least it's him I think of when I summon an aural image of the album. He's so in charge and oceanic. Then it's the knotted basses and Dolphy taking flight. I barely think of Coltrane and Elvin at all. Puzzling.

Poor old Freddie doesn't even get a look-in.

Hubbard?

Aye.

I picked up "Concert in Japan" last night and it's pretty great, fidelity and chopped up sequencing notwithstanding. Rashied Ali is unreal on it.

Are you referring to this one? I have had it for possibly a decade and have listened to it maybe once. It's pretty crazy.

That's the one! I had never heard it. It is indeed pretty crazy.

olé is sometimes my favorite coltrane album and it’s largely bc of its rhythm so it’s hard for me to listen to it and not focus on jones, also coltrane’s playing is so fucking mesmeric at this point that i can’t imagine not noticing him either! fair point that the interlocking basses kinda steal the show though

I think I undersold how much I love Ole! It makes me want to run up mountains with a bull on my back.

I wonder if it's that I've listened to it so much that when I focus on it, I sort of hear through it to the bottom now. Anyway, what an astonishing thing. I wish he'd done more with that particular ensemble.

OK ILM you've made me want to hear this again, it has been a few years. That title track, damn. It really doesn't get better than this, does it?

Also--maybe a nice thread idea but I don't think it would be very popular--are there many other examples in jazz of a well-known musician using a pseudonym for contractual (or other) reasons? I can't think of too many other examples, though there are obviously quite a few blues players who did this

McCoy was listed as ".Etc" on Joe Henderson's 'Page One' and other Blue Notes of the time owing to his conflicting contract with Impulse. And there's "Ed Kelly & Friend" and Leon Thomas' "Spirits Known & Unknown", both of which feature an pseudonymous Pharoah Sanders, listed as "Friend" and "Little Rock" respectively.

Did not know about any of those!

the cover for the Ed Kelly record is great

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ngiwSpTEL._SY450_.jpg

oh and Pharoah is also credited as "Mystery Guest" on Larry Young's Lawrence of Newark

Oh cool!

https://jazzdiscography.com/fitzgera/pseudo.htm

I love all the pseudonyms that jazz guys used. Charlie Parker used Charlie Chan, Cannonball Adderley used Buckshot LeFonque. . . there's lots of them.

omg who remembers Branford Marsalis's project Buckshot LeFonque? That hadn't popped into my mind for maybe two decades?

Preemo AND Buckethead, lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckshot_LeFonque

Olé and Africa/Brass are my favourite Coltrane albums. His discography's so vast though, and I've only started exploring it a few years ago.

I did not know about the key changes in Giant Steps, well explained in this awkwardly titled video from Vox:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62tIvfP9A2w

Adam Neely is a Coltrane obsessive. He did this video a while back and it blew my mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J98jwtm5U4E