ok lets all shit our pants to something new: post 2005 horror film thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek1ePFp-nBI

Looks good. Looks like a mix of the first one + H20. I mean, they've told this story so many times, but I guess I have high expectations? Trailer is menacing enough.

so is this like the Superman Returns of the Halloween series, where they just pretend most of the sequels didn't happen (but some did?)

I think it pretends that everything after the first one - all the sequels and reboots - never happened.

When can we talk about Hereditary?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!??!

I saw it last night. Haven't quite stopped thinking about it since. Toni Collette was amazing. I understood the plot on a surface level but wonder what it really ~means~, esp the song that played during the closing credits. Extremely incongruous and was a powerful emotional catalyst. I would see this movie again!

The score was, as predicted, well done.

I am going to try and see it next week. Whenever a movie is presented as the scariest thing ever, it is usually a boilerplate jump-scare movie like A Quiet Place, or a really well-made and acted film that is not terribly scary, like The Babadook. From what little I know about it this seems more like the latter, a psychologically scary art film, something to think about, usually about grief.

it's not scary -- it's intense (more so for some people than others) and it leaves a long-lingering creep that suffuses daily activities with ominous vibes. i wouldn't say "scary" tbh

Hereditary is good stuff. Not perfect, for sure, not all the details quite fit together, but easily really good. Go see it.
It's closer to the The Babadook, but significantly better crafted imo.

A couple of shots/sequences definitely bordered on scary. All of it in the last half-hour.

It's definitely in that VVitch / Babadook zone but not *quite* as good as either (though significantly better than a lot of other recent horror flicks). I'd have lopped off 15-20 minutes.

OBLIQUE SPOILERS

While there's obviously still subtext to be drawn and all that, I actually appreciated that at a certain point it's like, no, this is why shit's going down and it's not a metaphor lol

bummer that it's not as good as those others, it's been preceded by such high praise

It's still pretty good! (Though I'm not surprised audiences hate it.)

this is why shit's going down and it's not a metaphor lol

idk, i still think it's a metaphor -- it was comforting to movie viewers to know [spoiler about the certain point] because it got them through the harrowing nature of the situation, but i don't think of it as "a story" as much as a distillation of the horrors of heredity, which we all grapple with to some degree
i certainly felt massive lingering horror as i looked at boxes of personal/family ephemera the morning after i saw it

like A Quiet Place was family-centered horror of a narrow scope with one family and clear monsters; Hereditary seemed to be a more all-encompassing look at the horror of family and things that are hereditary

...or just a witch story with bonus family horror content
whichever you prefer

My wife has had multiple friends call it a hot mess, which surprised me.

idk people are going to recoil at what disturbs them, and there were plenty of disturbing ideas and images in this movie

recoil *from rather

I had a suspicion this was less "scary" than it was "intense" (or some other more psychological equivalent).

people in my theater were complaining about the ending on the way out but i think the last 10-20 minutes are what take it from very good to best horror film i've seen in a long time.

(vague spoilers follow)

while i see where they're coming from it's annoying when people bring up the horror respectability politics angle of "oh, it's really a kitchen table family drama disguised as a horror film" and i think the fact that they really Went There with the ending is so great, you CAN have a brilliantly acted and shot story about family and heredity and grief that also has an insanely metal climax

oh yeah -- it's not disguised as a horror film, it is for sure a horror film

i think the fact that they really Went There with the ending is so great, you CAN have a brilliantly acted and shot story about family and heredity and grief that also has an insanely metal climax
agree, otm

ha, yes, so metal! i liked that too.

the first half is intense/upsetting, the (better) second half is scary

Yeah I didn't find the Peter character to be reliable at all so the whole metal ending functions very well with the subtext of the film.

honestly the movie should probably get its own thread - other recent horror flicks of note have

I don't watch much horror lately, haven't seen Babadook, Witch, Quiet Place, etc., but went to Hereditary with my aspiring filmmaker son last night and we were both very impressed. Certainly not "scariest thing ever" but also certainly not "a hot mess" either. Many scenes will linger with me a long time.

Oh, and also, yes Toni Collette was amazing.

i think i liked the vvitch more than anyone else did

The VVitch is V V high in my esteem tbh

Loooooooved VVitch!!!

So much that I followed a stupid Black Phillip account on twitter and attempted to make Black Phillip jokes irl
lol

Yeah, The VVitch is great. I want to see Hereditary and Upgrade but will have to wait for Amazon Prime in both cases.

can't think of a post 2005 horror movie i like more than the vvitch

hereditary was great though. both are much better than babadook et al

i still want to make my The Marmadook parody

xpost i definitely tried to make black philip jokes irl

did yours land? mine did not. my friend asked me why i was talking in a weird accent and i had to explain it.
lol

upgrade is really good (i liked it so much i started a thread about it) but i would not call it a horror movie (though it has some horror elements for sure)

i think i liked the vvitch more than anyone else did

still my fave of the nu-school US horror flicks

glad i am not alone in my appreciation for T H E V V I T C H

yeah it's definitely the best of recent years

Very last shot aside, big vote for the vvitch here, too.

of the higher-profile supernatural horror flicks of the last few years I would go vvitch > babadook > hereditary > [enter Mike Flanagan movie of yr choice here] >> it follows

Also The VVitch fan.

But calling bullshit on that ranking. It Follows is also excellent. Babadook is the one that struck me as wildly overrated.

last shot is awesome imo

I guess I should see Hereditary

I should have added ">>>> IT" to that list

also why is everyone leaving Get Out off their recent greats lists

because no one likes it

Get Out is v good but it doesn't register as a horror film to me I guess? More of a satire with horror flourishes

lol NA

nothing against you Simon, but why do people always bring up the "it's not really a horror movie" argument. even for HEREDITARY! horror can be a lot of things

The Witch and The Invitation are both movies I loved that I want to see again with my wife just to watch her reactions.

The VVitch isn't really horror it's historical fiction with some horror elements

thanking u for screen name

the VVitch is definitely horror I'd say.