So, I was poking at more versions of this question yesterday, in Spotify data, and one of the things I calculated was the number of female Related Artists we show for each artist, aggregated by source-artist gender. This isn't an independent variable, because Related Artists are calculated from (mostly) listening patterns, but it gets at this specific question you're asking better than the other aggregates.
I found that female artists, on average had 50% female related artists, and the distribution (from 0-20) was basically flat from 0-10 and then slowly declining as you get towards 20.
But for male artists, the average was 3 female related artists (out of 20), and the distribution looked like a textbook power-law: tons of male artists with 0 female related artists, declining precipitously.
I don't actually believe that "the majority of people do not want to listen to women more than occasionally", although I agree there's plenty of empirical support for that contention. I think it's slightly more insidious than that: the inexorable inertia of ingrained normative maleness. Women make great music, but so do men, and if you're getting a stream of music you like, you're not actively prompted to think about what else you're missing but might like just as well.
Which was the point of the playlist series I made for my PopCon talk (click the genre links here: http://everynoise.com/tview.cgi?source=gender_listening_patterns&sort=poprank&colorthis=true): to try to algorithmically produce genre-by-genre "normal listening" playlists that work without any caveats, but which just happen to consist entirely of female or mixed-gender artists. It doesn't work uniformly well, because the distribution of artist-genders by genre isn't uniform or independent, either. But it's interesting, I think.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link
skip/like/dislike rate would possibly be telling in one direction or another there (this looks at skips by men vs. women, but not *of* men/women https://musicmachinery.com/2014/05/02/the-skip)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link
Ned's presentation has me wanting to go back and listen to old Associates records.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 June 2018 13:17 (five years ago) link
Where’s the 2019 thread? How was it? Tweets looked interesting
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 April 2019 05:03 (five years ago) link
Hi!
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 April 2019 05:10 (five years ago) link
Hee, read this.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 April 2019 05:11 (five years ago) link
My presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTpAkmIFt7I
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2019 05:16 (five years ago) link
Dramatic Soto #PopCon pic.twitter.com/FIhRtem61w— Ariane Grand Marnier (@awardtour) April 14, 2019
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Monday, 15 April 2019 07:59 (five years ago) link
Thanks. Anybody see the DC go-go presentation or the controversial I think one that criticized riot grrl as racist and classist
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 April 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link
posts very much in character
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 April 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link
2020 conference online today. Video streaming today ( but may not be archived)
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link
https://www.mopop.org/programs-plus-education/programs/pop-conference/
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link
I liked the kwaito talk & the baile funk one
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 September 2020 05:31 (three years ago) link
The noisy rap Korean duo xxx one was ok.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 September 2020 05:32 (three years ago) link
Chicago drill rap and Los Angeles all ages places will be discussed today
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 September 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link
Is there a pop con 2021 thread?
Heard some of the Black Critic round table with longtime critics like Greg Tate, Daniel Smith, Wesley Morris, Daphne Brooks
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 April 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link
Also Thulani Davis and Kimberly Mack
Interesting, although there was some grumbling about kids in college these days don’t know Afrika Baambaata etc stuff, and Tate talking about old school 1980s Voice stuff in a way that both had me wishing to hear younger critics . But they are all so bright and courageous that this is just nitpicking
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 April 2021 03:01 (three years ago) link
It was an extremely good panel, that one. But the whole day was a treat. Alfred brought some prime ILX-level snark, dare I say.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 April 2021 04:44 (three years ago) link
Oh I wish I heard that
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 April 2021 06:19 (three years ago) link
Thanks, Ned. The subject:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/George_H._W._Bush_inauguration.jpg
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 April 2021 10:10 (three years ago) link
This Marvin Gaye discussion going on now is really interesting. Discussion of album sonics as well musicians and their parents and more . Panelists Mark Anthony Neal, Shana Redmond. Guthrie Ramsey, Lynee Denise, & moderator RJ Smith
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 25 April 2021 00:18 (three years ago) link
I wish they’d make these available on YouTube or something. I missed one about the US South as it was going on at the same time as the Black older critics round table. I missed some of that one too, plus some of Mark Anthony Neal re Marvin Gaye What’s Going On
― curmudgeon, Monday, 26 April 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link
Per comments elsewhere, every session including Q&A was recorded and there are plans for wider availability, I gather.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 April 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link