US Politics, June 2018: This is a total goat rodeo.

It's the absolute last goddamn thing in the world that I want to seriously consider, trust me, but if no one who's opposed to that outcome wants to confront the possibility, it feels like we're opening ourselves up to a very rude shock. History is replete with things that could never ever happen but that happened anyway.

Only one president in the last thirty years has lost re-election, so, yes, assume history is on his side and work to thwart it.

or, as OL said.

is it possible that we've all been misunderstanding trump this entire time?

when he says "NO OBSTRUCTION" we've all been taking it for granted that he's implying "...on my part"

but really what he means is "...because it doesn't exist, conceptually, for a president"

Only one president in the last thirty years has lost re-election, so, yes, assume history is on his side and work to thwart it.

or, as OL said.

tbf tho no president with polling data available has had this sustain level of lower approval ratings

The distinction between "hope for the best, prepare for the worst" and "the american people deserve this guy, after all, we elected him he won the electoral college" is an important one to me. and yeah anybody who sounds like they're taking the latter position is catastrophizing.

Blaming the dems for running a sad sack with a shitty message in 2020 when we haven't even made it through the midterms is also pathetic self-flagellating crap.

not blaming the dems, just preparing for the worst. and I fall into the former camp - not fatalistic, but I remember how crushed & shocked I was when Bush was re-elected when I never even considered the possibility. I’d say Trump is less likely than Bush to be re-elected, but who knows. It’s too early to say anyway

Blaming the dems for running a sad sack with a shitty message in 2020 when we haven't even made it through the midterms is also pathetic self-flagellating crap.

I want them to do better! But it doesn’t look like they learned anything from 2016. I hope they do soon

I don't want to have this discussion again, but we had ample evidence that Bush II would win a close re-election. Trump surprised me.

flappy, go use the pool! It's a beautiful day in most of the country.

It’s about to torrentially rain where I am. I could actually just go outside, it’ll be like going to the pool

See? You're already looking at the bright side.

it's swimtime in the USA

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is it possible that we've all been misunderstanding trump this entire time?

when he says "NO OBSTRUCTION" we've all been taking it for granted that he's implying "...on my part"

but really what he means is "...because it doesn't exist, conceptually, for a president"

― obviously DLC (Karl Malone)

right, yes, yes, "when the president does it it's not illegal", we've been through this, can we skip directly to the part where you resign in disgrace please

not blaming the dems, just preparing for the worst. and I fall into the former camp - not fatalistic, but I remember how crushed & shocked I was when Bush was re-elected when I never even considered the possibility. I’d say Trump is less likely than Bush to be re-elected, but who knows. It’s too early to say anyway

― flappy bird

if it's too early to say, why on earth are you spending your valuable headspace speculating about what might or might not happen in 2020?

Font aficionados will be interested to know that the letterhead on John Dowd’s letter to Mueller was written in Comic Sans. https://t.co/SlisOfxwxj

— Amy Fiscus (@amyfiscus) June 2, 2018

oh jesus christ is nothing sacred

just to satisfy Tom, as with W, he'll win a pop majority next time

hell Biden could be the new Kerry

honestly if Biden somehow ran and won it might do even more harm in the long run don't @ me

You guys are fucking morons

hahahahahaha te amo tomboto

(FWIW I don't think even the Dem establishment is dumb enough to run Biden anyway)

well, unlike Simon or the Eagles, i don't believe in a long run

Simon.....how?

if it's too early to say, why on earth are you spending your valuable headspace speculating about what might or might not happen in 2020?

― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, June 2, 2018 5:27 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im twisted

The guys online I get all my news filtered though said that Dems are running midterm campaigns based exclusively on (get this) “Russia hysteria and Hamilton references” now clearly they have not learned the lessons that I have learned from 2016.

You know what Keynes said about the long run

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silby v otm

Only one president in the last thirty years has lost re-election

So, one in four.

One in five, surely :)

honestly if Biden somehow ran and won it might do even more harm in the long run don't @ me

― Simon H., Saturday, June 2, 2018 9:59 PM

otm. Biden will appoint SCOTUS justices and federal judges that believe in limiting class action law suits and reproductive rights. He'll sign dangerous executive orders that will allow administrators to bypass Obama federal regulations, and appoint Cabinet secretaries like Scott Pruitt. We gotta stop this dreadful thing from happening.

No, wait, you're right! God dammit, it's supposed to be 'one president in thirty-eight years'

personally i don't see how the democrats will ever unseat trump if they stick to their sinister conspiracy to run a manchin/lieberman ticket in 2020

Would thi8nk that anything that might go towards making possible Democratic voters stay home was a positive for teh Republicans and therefore something to be avoided.
Hoping that the pattern from elections throughout the year so far might carry over to the mid terms but think they do need more fo a reason to vote for Democrats rather than vote against Republicans because just abstaining is a factor that seems to have contributed heavily to 2016.

Clinton/Lieberman is what I've heard. The slogan will be 'Told you so you fucking idiots, now what are you going to do?' although Clinton worries it's too long.

i hear clinton is pushing for "We Don't Care About You" as a slogan. i don't know, could work, has that "refreshing honesty" thing going for it

Only one president in the last thirty years has lost re-election

Weirdly, we've somehow had two presidents in the last 30 years lose election!

also, her plan to conduct her entire campaign on twitter is really playing to her strengths

i've seen the democrats' 2020 draft platform, and it's a winner. it's got a twelve pages explaining thoroughly why george soros was not the architect of the holocaust. also a picture of obama's birth certificate. it's a slam dunk! they can't lose!

Here's an idea: what if the Democrats sneakily made peace with the North Koreans first! Then when Trump gets there they'd be all, sorry, we already made a peace treaty, you're too late. Then Trump would just sort of scratch his head and take credit, and the Dems will suddenly leap out of the Oval Office closet and yell, "it was us, we did it! We made the peace!" Trump will have a heart attack and die, everyone will love the Dems, and then they get the White House and mint a bunch of "in your face" challenge coins and give one to everyone (they can arrange them to be good for a free item off of McDonald's dollar menu, which will now include the McRib and the Shamrock Shake year-round) and people will love them forever and then they can officially and formally outlaw racism forever and fix the roads.

And then they'll lose the election the next time for outlawing racism and fixing the roads, because fuck you, I won't do what you tell me to, I want someone who tells it like it is, not someone who fixes things and outlaws racism.

also, i'm told by reliable sources, by which i mean the same people who keep telling me about the "pee tape", that clinton has already drafted her entire cabinet and will announce it at the same time she announces her candidacy. she believes this will show her strong work ethic, initiative, and her commitment to transparency. henry kissinger is going to make a great secretary of state!

*drums fingers impatiently on table*

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this thread is off to a dull start, if i'm honest

Exciting Ghouliani soundbite this morning!

"The president has no plans to pardon himself. Doesn't mean he can't!"

There are lots of things the president can go do to himself afaic.

Doesn't mean he won't!

I don’t want Biden to be the nominee either but what’s the basis for “he’ll appoint people like Scott Pruitt”?

That’s meant to be a joke.