US Politics, June 2018: This is a total goat rodeo.

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xxpost Yeah, I don't ever say that as a general thing. He's sitting pretty until and unless the people in/with power see him as more of a liability than an asset. If (not necessary when) that day comes, though, getcher popcorn.

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

.@FLOTUS will NOT be joining the president at Camp David this weekend, per her office.

(Mrs. Trump has joined him on 3 of the 5 trips he's taken there - last was Sept. 2017.)

Her office said this wk she's been working - holding staff mtgs on initiatives/long-term planning.

— Hallie Jackson (@HallieJackson) June 1, 2018

shes dead

frogbs, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

Being consoled by Donald Trump after suffering a tragedy is probably not unlike treating a wound by repeatedly jamming a knife directly into it.

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

I've spent the last year and change reading a ton of stuff about the US of fifty years ago, which on the one hand has provided a lot of useful context for where we find ourselves currently but which on the other hand has not gone a long way toward convincing me that our species isn't essentially insane and driven toward self-immolation.

― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch)

yeah, unfortunately trying to make sense of what's happened to the world in the past couple years has led me to delve really deep into history and in doing so i've found that all the positive values i believed in (democracy, reason, humanism, etc) were always lies.

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link

I dgaf about Melaniagate generally speaking, but this is honestly starting to feel like Shelly Miscavige Mk 2.

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link

I know, I'm just so exhausted that even totally reasonable speculation gives me dreaded OPPO DUMP flashbacks.

xposts

Evan, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link

sneaky autocorrect tried to make me post "POOP DUMP".

Evan, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link

xxpost Yeah, I don't ever say that as a general thing. He's sitting pretty until and unless the people in/with power see him as more of a liability than an asset. If (not necessary when) that day comes, though, getcher popcorn.

― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch)

i don't think the question has ever been whether he's an "asset". i mean let's be fair, we're talking about a coup, a Business Plot if you will. such things are fairly dangerous endeavours.

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link

shes dead

Nah, her Win10 Fembot software updates didn't take.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link

Where's Melania? I want to go there

Evan, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link

What the noble Bush 41 did with his pardons was so much worse than what Trump has done because Bush not only pardoned his criminal aides but did so to kill an investigation into Bush himself. Trump may abuse the pardon power that way in the future but has not yet done that. https://t.co/JdnGAIC9iz

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 1, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link

my god, these stories

https://people.com/crime/donald-trump-meets-santa-fe-shooting-families-mom-confrontation/

Trump, 71, repeatedly called the gunman “wacky” while speaking at the gathering, at a Houston military base, according to Rhonda Hart.

“He kept calling him this wacky kid who was wearing a wacky trench coat,” says Hart, whose 14-year-old daughter, Kimberly Vaughan, was fatally shot along with nine others in the May 18 attack in Galveston County.

At that point, Hart recalls, “I raised my hand and said, ‘I have something to say here. Let’s just get to the mental health part.”

She then explained that her daughter had anxiety, Asperger’s syndrome and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder and “took medicine daily.”

“I said, ‘The shooter might have been depressed, but he wasn’t wacky.’ But if that kid needed help, he needed to have proper access to it,” Hart says, “meaning you shouldn’t repeal the Affordable Care Act (one of Trump’s cardinal promises) and get them the help they need and take away the stigma of mental illness.”

She says she told Trump, “Mental illness needs to be addressed.”

“I said all that and he didn’t say anything,” she says. “He was just like, ‘Uhhhh …’ ”

frogbs, Friday, 1 June 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link

I guess w/o Hope Hicks there's no one to give him a sheet of paper with "5. I hear you" on it

frogbs, Friday, 1 June 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link

he was just living up to his promise to 'have a little fun'

"We are going to Dallas, we are going to Houston. We are going to have a little fun today. Thank you very much," President Trump says as he head to Texas to meet with the families of Santa Fe school shooting victims https://t.co/LJJOcM4YsX pic.twitter.com/2sDFcgdoCX

— CBS News (@CBSNews) May 31, 2018

capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link

They told him he could come down the evacuation shute when they land at Dallas.

Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

Of course he didn't respond to Ms. Hart's drag of a question. She was harshing his buzz.

Plus also it's real awkward to field inquiries about mental illness when you're a septuagenarian saddled with decades of unaddressed personality disorders.

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link

North Korean envoy at White House hand delivering a letter from Kim Jong Un to Trump at the moment.

how's life, Friday, 1 June 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

Kim and his advisors prob had a lot of fun cooking up just the right mix of vague promises and flattery, so he will swallow it whole.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link

stuffed with anthrax I hope

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link

that north korean letter in full

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg0CSwqUkAALbf3?format=jpg

capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link

jackietreehorn.jpg

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

summit back on

frogbs, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

this is all so stupid

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

kim jong un's back on the "very honorable" list, eh?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

hey remember when Obama bent the knee and assured wall street there would be zero retribution from his admin for their cratering of the world's economy? and then how corporate america spent the next 8 years whining about "uncertainty", implicitly (and some very explicitly) laying the blame for a sluggish recovery at this feet?

haha that was fun

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

I feel like such a fool for prematurely selling all my challenge coins.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 June 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link

More detail on propping up uneconomic coal plants.

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/doe-plans-to-order-guaranteed-profits-for-coal-nuclear-power-plants#gs.LxHabMg

Quote from the heritage foundation at the end hopefully supports this theory:

I kinda support Trump overtly hatefucking the economy like he's been doing this week because I've long predicted that it would take him pissing off the moneyed elites before any real move to chuck him into the street would begin in earnest.

― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 11:53 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink]

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 1 June 2018 20:01 (five years ago) link

This story seems to fit our paranoid times. Raise the rhetoric, raise the blood pressure and seemingly some are going bang.

The blind fold detail with an immigrant worker is such a strange detail.

https://nypost.com/2018/06/01/paranoid-millionaire-charged-in-death-of-worker-hired-to-dig-personal-nuke-shelter/

What was on this guy's CD player? "Paranoid Chant" by the Minutemen.

earlnash, Friday, 1 June 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

Whomp whomp

new SCOOP from Singapore: The U.S. is trying to find a discreet way to pay for Kim Jong Un’s luxury five-start hotel: https://t.co/jk9WVgBYBc

— John Hudson (@John_Hudson) June 1, 2018

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 June 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link

> Democracy Dies in Darkness

Or if you have adblock installed

koogs, Friday, 1 June 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link

(that link gives me a page containing just the Washington post banner)

koogs, Friday, 1 June 2018 23:59 (five years ago) link

Sure hope 'discreetly' means 'on the American taxpayer's dime'.

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:19 (five years ago) link

can this, or any of this, be corrected still?

Stevolende, Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:20 (five years ago) link

open that shit in incognito/private mode, my guy

xxp

21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:21 (five years ago) link

Are we paying for Kim's hookers too?

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:37 (five years ago) link

Are we paying to have some substance rubbed on anyone's face?

nickn, Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:44 (five years ago) link

Donald Trump says his letter from Kim Jong-un was “a very nice letter”.

Eight minutes later, he says he hasn’t opened it yet. pic.twitter.com/ZOgqODlsY7

— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) June 1, 2018

This is some kind of rodeo alright

frogbs, Saturday, 2 June 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link

they gave him a comedy oversized envelope. he likes it because it is yuge. the content does not matter to him, because he does not, and possibly cannot, read. he certainly cannot process anything he does read.

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Saturday, 2 June 2018 07:02 (five years ago) link

"Thank you Kim, the letter is very nice. Very interesting. I'm told it's for me! That's very generous."

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cf/9c/13/cf9c138b4d1622d9382e96c72daa34b6.jpg

Evan, Saturday, 2 June 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link

can this, or any of this, be corrected still?


No.

However, it is possible to remove the electoral college, or mitigate it by requiring state electors to vote according to the national popular vote results.

It is possible to add judicial positions to mitigate the effects of the lifetime appointments currently being bestowed upon incompetent, racist fuckwits.

It is possible to mitigate gerrymandering through a number of mechanisms so that at least one half of our bicameral legislature isn’t constantly under the control of Sméagolesque greasebags like John Boehner and Paul Ryan.

It is possible to enfranchise the citizens of the district and our territories so that we more closely resemble a representative democracy.

And it is technically possible that such powerful and damaging evidence of malfeasance and treason-by-any-other-name is produced that the old doddering centrists and the mid-right wing decide to throw this dumb mother fucker and his stupid, stupid family right the fuck out of my town for good.

But there is no way to correct this. It all happened. It is happening right now. And in the history books, it will have happened, and no amount of invective or reform can fix it.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 June 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link

well, good mourning!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 June 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link

lol

flappy bird, Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link

Don’t worry it’ll be over in 6 years

flappy bird, Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

Don’t worry it’ll be over in 6 years

― flappy bird

don't even joke about that, i can't live through six more years of this shit

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link

Don’t worry it’ll be over in 6 years

Florida will!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link

eh if the economy stays "strong", or even if it takes a hit following Dems taking back House or maybe Senate, allowing the GOP/ Trump/ complicit MSM to effectively place blame on them, i could easily see Trump winning again in 2020.

this is who we are now.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

Fuck off, he lost by 3 points, you idiots.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

Yeah I wasn’t joking, he’s the incumbent. I remember 2004. Preparing myself now.

flappy bird, Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

got a 404 on that link?

"riot" = fascists beating protestors with flagpoles

sleeve, Sunday, 1 July 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

paintballs filled with pepper spray? That's a new one to me. I admire your creativity, Portland Police.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link

i know this isn't surprising at this point, but it's still startling to see them side-by-side

He didn’t even bother to delete the old one pic.twitter.com/A47TuOFfNS

— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) June 30, 2018

Karl Malone, Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link

It’s not though! It’s not remotely startling, covfefe.

Can we make the July thread into less of a mess of dumbfoundedness at the “world burning down?” Duh, of course it is. To the extent our systems allow it to. Also if you talk about trump winning re-election please punch yourself in the genitalia

Where are the 1987 Korea style protests demanding direct popular elections?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

wrt anyone using Iraq as a frame of reference for “this is the deep state trying to undermine the president’s peace plan” theories

Brief, remedial class on the drive to war in Iraq: The invasion was pushed by political appointees in the Bush admin who manipulated raw intelligence, previously discounted by analysts, and created a whole new intelligence office to out-hawk what they viewed as a "liberal" CIA.

— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) July 1, 2018


"The agency, called the Office of Special Plans (OSP), was set up by the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, to second-guess CIA information." https://t.co/HyZgVjygqH

— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) July 1, 2018


Meanwhile, as McClatchy reported in 2002, anonymous "U.S. intelligence officials said evidence actually suggested that Saddam had been careful to keep al Qaida at arms' length to avoid giving Bush an excuse to invade Iraq." https://t.co/kS34X66Lfy

— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) July 1, 2018


But some people believed the White House, seeing the CIA as a den of liberals determined to undermine an elected president's foreign policy.

— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) July 1, 2018

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link

If the IC had been as bad and deceitful as Greenwald/Simon says, that Colin Powell presentation would have been a lot more impressive.

Frederik B, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

I wasn't trying to make a direct Iraq parallel fwiw - my distrust of / wariness towards US intelligence services is more general.

Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link

We can tell. Your aptitude as a generalist is undisputed

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

Do we have a July thread?

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 1 July 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

generalists are always pushing for wariness

Evan, Sunday, 1 July 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

is there no july thread because no one can decide on a title

maura, Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

“Goodlatte 2: DPRK Nuke-a-Dupe”

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link

US Politics July 2018: Let's Eat Grandma

a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link

Among contenders upthread were "womp womp", "We Got Space Force" and "I REALLY DON'T CARE. DO U?" of which the latter is the most nihilistically apposite.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

i really don't careforce 1

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link

I'm down with the third option MatthewK presented

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link

Shall I

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link

Option 3 for sure.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 1 July 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link

marches lighter on millenials are marches heavier on voters, and so a good thing.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 2 July 2018 10:43 (five years ago) link

The new name has always been a surprise.

Just sayin.

Mark G, Monday, 2 July 2018 10:48 (five years ago) link

US Politics, July 2018: FART

Surprise!!

Mark G, Monday, 2 July 2018 10:49 (five years ago) link


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