at least one of these dudes only listens to Moody Blues Live at Red Rocks and definitely saw said band at said venue
imagine the self-confidence you'd have to have for this to be your sole musical interest, these guys are heroes
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 1 June 2018 07:49 (five years ago) link
The PRaT thing - I remember hearing that in association with Linn/Naim gear about 20 years ago. The notion was that Linn/Naim weren't necessarily the most faithful means of reproduction in some sort of analytical way (separation, frequency extremes, ultra-low distortion) but the music just "hung together" better through their gear and had that elusive "musicality". The non-Linnie 'philes would denigrate them as "Flat Earthers", while the Linnies would regard the rest of the audiophile community as "lab technicians", more interesting in visualising the decay of a cymbal crash than, y'know, groovin'.
The "first time you heard a favourite LP" thing has some substance for some people, I think. I spent an awful lot of money in the '90s chasing the sensation of hearing the first Tindersticks album on my entry-level Richer Sounds hi-fi ten minutes after I first set it up. I became obsessed with avoiding "brightness", that ice-cubes-on-fillings upper-mid sting that I was convinced the better kit had exposed on all my records. I stuck a fancy Marantz CD player through a valve stage to my friends' amusement ("a bit of gain and some harmonic distortion for only £130").
― Michael Jones, Friday, 1 June 2018 12:00 (five years ago) link
sic otm
― mh, Friday, 1 June 2018 13:51 (five years ago) link
I just bought a tube amp and frankly it sounds amazing
― 龜, Saturday, 2 June 2018 01:13 (five years ago) link
As they do.
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 2 June 2018 02:11 (five years ago) link
neils and 龜 should both be FP’d for bringing “hey guys, aspirin” to a snake oil thread
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 June 2018 09:26 (five years ago) link
is it a new tube amp or an old one?
I have a couple music hardware nerd friends who love refurbishing old receivers, buying good quality tubes. It’s a pretty cool hobby imo
― mh, Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
Are there people out there hand-blowing tubes
― valorous wokelord (silby), Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
most of them use their mouths
― na (NA), Saturday, 2 June 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link
*chases NA off stage*
― valorous wokelord (silby), Saturday, 2 June 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link
Spotted on Twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmsEIYvU0AAmpGJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmsELLaU4AAChnT.jpg
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
lol nope it definitely doesn’t.
― faculty w1fe (silby), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link
Also what is that graph even trying to be
― faculty w1fe (silby), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link
Top line goes all the way up to eleven.
― Dan Worsley, Monday, 10 September 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link
couldn't resist looking it up. a Sony thing. guessing it's something like a bbe sonic maximizer or something that makes the high end tingle and give that sensation of more life in the sound?
― andrew m., Monday, 10 September 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link
"upscales" lol
that fucking graph is killing me
― bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 September 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link
DSEEZ NUTX
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 10 September 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link
Maybe not that snakeoil-y, but the hipster doucheyness is off the charts!
https://www.atxrecordplayers.com/optin-22668722
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 October 2018 07:15 (five years ago) link
wow, some people have a lot of spare cash
― niels, Thursday, 18 October 2018 07:54 (five years ago) link
Huh, just noticed some of their pitch is only on the mobile site.
Lines like:
If you're looking for a cheap console check Craigslist
Mcintosh packages are available for only the best and rarest consoles! (Only true ballers allowed)
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 October 2018 08:37 (five years ago) link
is it douchey if i think those look sexy as hell?
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
no way, those look fkn rad, although i suspect there's no way in hell i'd be willing to pay what they're asking for
― himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link
I was gonna say, I'd much rather look at one of those consoles than at a stack of components.
But then, for probably less than $100, you could find and gut one of those consoles and shoehorn your gear into it.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link
I tried fixing my grandpa-in-laws console because the tube amp sounded great and it had 78 rpm. But I'm no gearhead, and I could never get the turntable to consistently start nor find a replacement needle. Not the sexiest design, but it had potential if I could have figured out how to put a better turntable in there.
― saddest kamancheh (bendy), Thursday, 18 October 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:58 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i think that's basically what these guys are doing, getting rummage sale stuff the loading it w/components and charging 4X what it's worth
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 October 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
^^There's another video (also visible on their mobile site, but also seen here) where in the founder admits that's how he got started, by buying a console on Craigslist and then fixing it up.
To me, the doucheyness lies in the whole "ATX" branding, the copy I've excerpted, the fact that they've landed a endorsement from noted automotive douche Jesse James, and that one book in this photo.
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 October 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link
...and also the balls to castigate cost skeptic customers by advising them to fuck off BY DOING EXACTLY WHAT THE COMPANY IS ALREADY DOING.
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 October 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link
that’s ‘noted automotive douche and nazi jesse james’ to give him his full title
― himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
my old gran had a console like these.not quite as high end, more likely a g-plan thing. can't remember the manufacturer.after her death it went to a cousin who preferred watching Bradford City as opposed to listening to the latest record by The The, much to the anger of many within the family clan. the record deck was dreadful, but damn, it made old 60s 7" singles sound so special via its inbuilt speakers.what I would give to have it now with a decent set up inside.none of the original electronics would be worthy, but with modern kit in it, it would be bloody wonderful.
― mark e, Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link
surely they have these things coming out their ears in palm springs
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link
Not to mention his treatment of poor Sandra Bullock...
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link
https://www.atxrecordplayers.com/hosted/images/9c/fb6a916c0c11e8983bdfb25c0e06d1/unnamed-7.jpg
nice copy of atlas shrugged there, douchelord
― canary christ (stevie), Thursday, 18 October 2018 20:01 (five years ago) link
i see morrissey is a fanhttps://www.atxrecordplayers.com/hosted/images/be/3154b1c1dc11e88e46e36307d97bbf/unnamed-14.jpg
― canary christ (stevie), Thursday, 18 October 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link
Record weights/clamps: worth it? do these really do anything? I kind of want one and I have no rational reason to. I see them ranging in price from like $30 to hundreds.
― akm, Saturday, 27 October 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link
also, I see a fair number of 'changed consoles' with newer equipment in them . a lot of them are really beautiful; either old consoles or new ones built in older styles. If i had the space and money I'd completely buy one of those things. The Montgomery Wards coffin stereo we had as a kid is still, in my mind, the best sounding system I've ever heard.
― akm, Saturday, 27 October 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link
personally I would never put a turntable inside a console like that (or any piece of furniture) for acoustic reasons
used to sell record clamps, but honestly never A/B'd them so not sure if they work
one of the best hifi systems I ever heard had a turntable as a main source and did not use a record clamp though, so if sound is your primary concern I would personally go speakers > pickup/turntable > riaa/amp > record clamps etc > snakeoil
― niels, Sunday, 28 October 2018 11:41 (five years ago) link
If I got a brand consultant to design a sick visual identity for a brand of audio conditioning fluid called “snake oil” would it sell and would I ever get called out
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Sunday, 28 October 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link
if you call it Viper Grease (TM) or something, I could see that work
― StanM, Sunday, 28 October 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link
i used to seriously talk about selling Record Lotion
re: clamps I always thought they were BS but my boss says a good one basically flattens a record out if it has any imperfections and he thinks they're good so I dunno
― DEATH PUPPET (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 28 October 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link
this reminds me
can anyone recommend a decent pair of inexpensive (< $225/pair perhaps) speakers for a basic setup. i have older speakers (JBC or something?) that sound terrible lately.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 29 October 2018 00:50 (five years ago) link
The Andrew Jones Pioneer bookshelves
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:17 (five years ago) link
thanks! I owned some of those a million years ago, I think?
are the floor-standing ones just as good? those might make more sense for me...
(and i assume they'll still work with a literally 22-year-old receiver/amp)
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 29 October 2018 03:26 (five years ago) link
or maybe 25-year?
sure, if the amp works why not?
lots of good bookshelf speakers in that price range, probably depends what's available in your local shop/market
the what hifi picks might be a good place to start
― niels, Monday, 29 October 2018 11:10 (five years ago) link
tbrr for a sec, some of the older receivers and amps have direct coupled outputs and the transistor biases and offsets have wandered over the years as the caps drifted. So if you have a multimeter, put it on the DC mV range and check at the speaker terminals. If it’s over say 100mV DC (not AC) the amp needs to be re biased or it will wear out the voice coils of some speaker types.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 29 October 2018 11:25 (five years ago) link
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Sunday, October 28, 2018 8:50 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, October 28, 2018 9:17 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Andrew Jones left Pioneer a few years back and now designs speakers for Elac; their Debut bookshelf speakers have brought in raves all around and are reasonably priced. The older Pioneers are still available too and still highly regarded. I haven't heard either yet.
As for using old receivers with new speakers, i've noticed that many new speakers are rated at 6 ohms impedance or even 4 whereas my old Marantz amp is designed for 8 ohm speakers. Is this a problem?
― Lee626, Monday, 29 October 2018 12:33 (five years ago) link
i have some old boston acoustics that are mismatched ohms w/the amp i have (can't remember which is 4 and which is 8 but they are def not the same)...anyway it works but the amp tends to get really hot, one time it shut down when i had it on all day, but overall it's worked
WRT: Elac I didn't know that, explains why I've been seeing them all over
anyway here's some good deals on them:
https://slickdeals.net/f/12134407-elac-debut-2-0-b6-2-bookshelf-speakers-249-98-elac-debut-2-0-c6-2-center-speaker-229-98-more?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
The ELACs are really nice, the bookshelf model (B6.2) for $250 off Amazon is pretty reasonable.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link