discogs marketplace?

Wtf?

Just got an 8CD Louis Prima box set (the one on Bear Family, from '93) in today's mail. Old stock from a guy whose record store went out of business. Still in the shrink wrap, with a $189.98 price tag on it - I got it for $100 plus $3 media mail shipping from Florida.

one big gripe is sellers who use usps online stuff to generate a shipping label, which creates a tracking number, which they then post up for you to see and admire. record has not actually shipped, nor do i know when it will actually ship.

it wouldn't be such a gripe if i hadn't already waited 8 days for them to send the shipped notice along with the tracking # that's not actually tracking anything yet.

new beta feature where tracks on a release are listed as a link and you can see all the releases they've appeared on. I can see how it would be useful but, at the risk of being petty, it looks so ugly in blue text when the layout has always been so simple and minimalist

Does it actually track whether *that specific version* of a song (recording/mastering/mix etc.) has appeared on other releases?

"This release has been blocked from sale in the marketplace. It is not permitted to sell this item on Discogs."

Never seen that before.

Encountered it here.

is this where I mention the surprisingly persistent sense of guilt/shame I have that I forgot I'd placed a discogs order (I'm used to marketplaces that pay automatically), they (understandably) tanked my ranking, and now the marketplace is useless to me

"This release has been blocked from sale in the marketplace. It is not permitted to sell this item on Discogs."

Never seen that before.

Encountered it here.

― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Sunday, July 15, 2018 9:48 PM

Yeah, I've seen that come up a few times on bootleg releases.

xp katherine, I completely blanked on an order, messaged the seller apologizing and asked if they could let me follow through, and it all worked out ok? it was a few years ago and may have changed since then

I message polite reminders to non-paying buyers after 5 days, 10 days and on the final day (14), when I explain how their rankings will be affected, and ask them if they'd prefer just to cancel. More often than not, this yields results. That said, there's been a recent significant upswing in fully silent non-payers.

Yeah, Discogs started removing any non-official items from sale at a large scale around a year ago. Shame, but all part of them becoming more and more of a business.

Sellers are able to manually remove those automatic non-payer negative feedbacks FWIW. You could always try asking.

Yeah, I've removed a couple on request.

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the only celtic(s) that has won anything meaningful tho

Yeah, Discogs started removing any non-official items from sale at a large scale around a year ago. Shame, but all part of them becoming more and more of a business.

Sorry for that cross post blip

ebay, xpost

I've seen sellers add comments to a bootleg's page saying that people can DM them for private sale. Obviously a risky strategy for both parties though – the seller might get blocked for trying to circumvent the no-boots policy, while the buyer loses protection if the deal takes place off the grid.

ebay, xpost

they're not very good blocks, though. I think they also rely on people reporting items, but we've repeatedly sold Dylan boots without a problem. Led Zeppelin otoh

Funny, I was just looking at a LZ1 LP turquoise lettering, 'reissue' ont'bay so I guess it depends.

Need some guidance here. . .

I ordered a CD through the Discogs marketplace and it was set up to have a fixed shipping price, so I was able to just immediately check out through PayPal right then. The amount cleared my PayPal account and a week went by with no communication from the seller. I looked at the order history on my Discogs account and the status was set to "Payment Pending" (which is where it still stands as of right now). I messaged the seller to ask about why it says that and they responded with, "Sorry I'm out of town, blah blah blah." Couple days pass and they respond again saying, "The payment does not show up on my end." I respond with the date it cleared my account and the email address to which it was sent. They respond pretty quickly this time saying, "Oh yeah, I see it now. Sending it out as soon as I can." Couple days go by, they message again saying, "I can't find the disc. Unless you want to wait, I'll just refund you." I respond with, "That's okay. If you can't find it, no big deal, I'll just take a refund." Another two days pass and they respond with, "I'm going to look again. I think I got the disc out when you ordered it and misplaced it. If you get a refund in the next couple days, I couldn't find it."

So now we're ten days from when the payment cleared. First they say they were out of town when the order was placed, then it was pulled out to prepare for mailing and misplaced. I asked for a refund and they respond with a very ambiguous answer. At this point, I don't even want the CD anymore. What should I do?

Dispute it with paypal if you can and leave feedback on discogs

How much was the transaction? If it was less than $20, including postage, I would say just forget about it and accept whatever the eventual outcome is. If it was some kind of expensive rarity, take it up with Discogs.

otm

There's very little Discogs can do unless the seller is not even replying. Yeah, dispute it on PayPal of you used it and want a refund.

I mean, it was around ten dollars. I wish I was at a point where I could just shine that off and say oh well. But that's just not the case.

give me your email i'll paypal you $10

Haha, you are the most solid of dudes!

I sent the seller a kind but firm message and they refunded me just now, so all's well. Glad it didn't escalate any further.

i have two gripes with discogs: 1) I never seem to get emails from them. I'm not like on there all the time looking at my message box. why don't they send those out via email? or maybe they're getting marked as spam? 2) they won't let you list bootlegs anymore for sale. wtf.

You may need to look into your account settings. Under some settings, they won't email you at all.

yeah you can get hella emails from them if you want. I created a list for every single project and appearance by the members of one Australian band, two of whom had an unreleased song covered on an album that also had a cover of Tangled Up In Blue, and discogs email me every goddamn day to tell me about every Bob Dylan pressing that someone adds somewhere in the world.

Dropping bootlegs for sale was annoying when I was trying to turn KLF CDs into orthodontic treatment last year, but "wtf" is surely the least inexplicable "w" ever.

I mean they don't email me bcz I switched it off, but ykwim

ah, perhaps that's why. I had several messages in there about things I had listed for sale from months ago that I didn't know about.

i received negative feedback from a seller for leaving them negative feedback without contacting them first. wtf? i appreciate you allowing me to send you back your garbage for a refund but it doesn't make me happy or anything.

it's just.. your grading sucks.. and it should be public knowledge

Retaliatory feedback is bullshit. I received a record in the mail packaged in wrapping paper. No box, nothing. Like, if somebody gave you a record for your birthday, that's what I got in the mail. It was all jacked up and I immediately left negative feedback and the seller retaliated with "BAD BUYER HAD BUYERS REMORSE DIDN'T WANT RECORD AND TOOK IT OUT ON ME."

I'm still mad about it.

you see people list stuff as mint then the description is like "missing disc two" and despair

Seems like there should be a reporting system for that kind of thing, so it doesn’t have to be handled thru feedback?

you see people list stuff as mint then the description is like "missing disc two" and despair

like, this is fine if they clearly state it? assuming that all the intact parts are mint. someone might have left disc 1 in a friend’s car in 1992 and want a good replacement

no

the gradings are built-in, the description is the only way to add qualifiers

tends to be best to only call sealed items mint imo, NM w/ a note would probably be fine if you had a missing CD but the remaining one had never been played

There is a reporting system (there's an arrow next to the listing I think,) but how to grade incomplete items isn't really defined. Mint is really pushing it though. It's kind of a mythical state of perfection even for new complete items.

yes yr all correct, I was thinking of the general principle not the specificity of “mint”!

Re negative feedback: when you bring up the "Leave Feedback" page, it says "Please communicate to try to resolve any problems before leaving feedback." As a seller, I'm grateful for that, as it gives me the chance to resolve a genuine mistake without incurring reputational damage. As a buyer, I do follow this guideline - so if a record is over-graded, I'll message the buyer and suggest a remedy. If the problem is then resolved, I'll then leave positive feedback, but I'll reference the problem in my comments, e.g. "disc was VG+ not NM, but the buyer resolved the problem quickly and amicably".

(duh, "the SELLER resolved the problem quickly and amicably")

Nope, sorry, I want to know if a seller overgrades. It should be public. Grading vinyl is not hard! If in doubt, grade down. I'm just done giving these clowns benefit of the doubt. It's happens to me way too often.

What else is feedback there for? Just straight up fraud?? No other negativity allowed?

I would never leave negative feedback without first contacting the Seller. I've had several issues with grading and packaging, and in every case they seller has refunded a fair amount.

The fact is that site staff can't be expected to mediate disputes sight unseen so all that's asked is that there's a chance to work thing out in case of a mistake made in good faith or a misunderstanding.

It doesn't preclude leaving feedback if you still feel that way, but you do have to contact the seller first.