the genre known as dubstep - search and destroy

I agree.

1 Peverelist - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #01] Gather
2 Peverelist & Applebim - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #02] Circling
3 Pinch - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #03] Get Up
4 2562 - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #04] Moog Dub
5 Martyn - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #05] Suburbia
6 Jus Wan - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #06] Action Potential
7 2562 - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #07] Morvern Dub
8 TTG & Selector Dub U - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #08] Harajuku
9 Peverelist - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #09] Infinity Is Now
10 Skream - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #10] Percression
11 RSD - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #11] Pretty Bright Light
12 Mungo's HI FI - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #12] Babylon
13 Komonazkuk - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #13] Bad Apple
14 Komonazkuk & Gatekeeper - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #14] Cheeky Herbert
15 TRG - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #15] Decisions
16 TRG - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #16] Put You Down (Ramadanman Refix)
17 TRG - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #17] Broken Hearts (Martyn's DCM Remix)
18 Geiom - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #18] Reminiscing (Dubplate Version)

Wow no Shackleton. Interesting looking.

flying lotus is j dilla redux

for some people (such as myself) mo wax redux would be a very big deal

I think that's quite an insult to Dilla frankly.

You may love Los Angeles then!

Seriously it sounds totally instrumental hip hop '96 to me with a few '00s production touches thrown in!

I mean Donuts was only the end all be all of Dilla to guys Pincock. Most of Dilla's stuff was more than just production fan boy drool bait.

oh? how about this then?

most mo'wax >>>>> dilla

cough, splutter, choke

Well that's nonsense.

What Mo Wax do you rate, Vahid?

RPM? Palmskin Productions? UNKLE? La Funk Mob?

MW 004 Marden Hill Come On (12")
MW 005 RPM Food Of My De-Rhythm (12")
MW 006 Federation Life So Free (12")
MW 008 Bubbatunes This Is Just A Dance (12")
MW 009 Palm Skin Productions Time & Space EP (12")
MW 012 DJ Takemura* Hoping For The Sun (12")
MW 013 Palm Skin Productions In A Silent Way (12")
MW 014 DJ Shadow & The Groove Robbers In/Flux / Hindsight (12")
MW 017 La Funk Mob Tribulations Extra Sensorielles (2x12")
MW 018 RPM 2000 / Sortie Des Ombres (12")
MW 020 Attica Blues Vibes, Scribes 'N' Dusty 45's E.P. (12", EP, Blu)
MW 023 La Funk Mob Casse Les Frontières, Fou Les Têtes En L'Air (2x10")
MW 024 DJ Shadow / DJ Krush Lost & Found / Kemuri (12")
MW 027 DJ Shadow What Does Your Soul Look Like (12")
MW 028 U.N.K.L.E.* The Time Has Come E.P. (2x12", EP)
MW 029 Palm Skin Productions The Beast / Trousers I Never Wore (12")
MW 029 R Palm Skin Productions The Beast Remix (12")
MW 032 P Money Mark Album Sampler (10", Promo, Smplr)
MW MFW 004 Various Mo Wax vs. Major Force: Time Has Come (12")
MW MFW 004 Various Mo Wax vs. Major Force: Time Has Come (12", Promo, W/Lbl)
MW 031 Sam Sever And The Raiders Of The Lost Art What's That Sound? (12")
MW 032 Money Mark Cry / Insects Are All Around Us (7")
MW 033 DJ Krush / DJ Shadow A Whim / 89.9 Megamix (12")
MW 034 LP Money Mark Mark's Keyboard Repair (LP)
MW 038 Attica Blues Blueprint (12")
MW 039 LP DJ Krush Meiso (2xLP)
MW 040 Andrea Parker Melodious Thunk (12")
MW 045 Andrea Parker The Rocking Chair (12")
MW 049 Innerzone Orchestra Bug In The Bassbin (12")
MW 056 CD Various Excursions (2xCD)
MW 060 DJ Krush Only The Strong Survive (12")
MW 065 Urban Tribe Eastward (12")
MW 067 DJ Attica Blues Tender (12", Promo)
MW 069 U.N.K.L.E.* Berry Meditation (12", TP)
MW 077 LP DJ Krush Milight (2xLP)
MW 079 Attica Blues 3ree (A Means To Be) (12")
MW 083 As One Planetary Folklore (LP)
524 589-2 Urban Tribe The Collapse Of Modern Culture (CD)
MW 095 Andrea Parker Ballbreaker / Some Other Level (10", Ltd)
MWR 105 CD Major Force West 93-97 (CD)
MWR 141 CD David Axelrod David Axelrod (CD)
MWR 155 CD Jordan Fields Moments In Dub (CD)
MWR 159 CD Parsley Sound Parsley Sounds (CD)

and i left out stuff that mo'wax compiled, like dj assault, liquid liquid, dj magic mike, divine styler, etc

the only stuff on mo'wax that i don't like is the solesides-related stuff (blackalicious, dj shadow, etc) and the nigo, tommy guerrero, etc vanity projects that crept in toward the end.

highly rate: andrea parker, urban tribe, as one, major force west, UNKLE, palmskin productions, la funk mob, attica blues all the various awesome major force and carl craig and 4 hero remixes they put on those early EPs

Blech. I have to assume you are kidding or you haven't actually heard much Dilla cuz thinking Major Force West > Amplified, Stakes Is High, Labincalifornia, Slum Village, hell even Donuts et all is pure troller-y.

Anyway you will probably love Flying Lotus.

I thought it was all vanity projects haha.

Looking at that list it is now clear than I don't smoke near enough pot haha.

oh wait, so you're going to count "stakes is high" and "labcabincalifornia" as dilla albums? can i count LCD soundsystem as UNKLE albums? because tim goldsworthy is on those, too ...

to be honest, i'm not super-crazy about "stakes is high". or "labcabincalifornia". i own all of the slum village albums, but i've gradually come to realize that each slum village album has about three good tracks on it. more or less they just keep remaking "tainted". anyway dilla's not on any of them so much, particulary the only one i *really* dig anymore which is "dirty district".

yes, it's true, mo'wax is music for weedidated white kids in hoodies, quite unlike, uh, "labcabincalifornia"

anyway talking about mo'wax is probably not a bad precedent on a dubstep thread

I'm not counting them as Dilla albums, but there are Dilla productions on them! The song "Stakes Is High" is Dilla! He did what half of Labcabincalifornia? If you are talking about complete albums, then I am not so sold on most of Dilla's (either one's he produced or under whatever alias he was using last), but no way a collection of his best productions doesn't shit all over whatever group of warmed over sample-jazz Mo Wax you want to put it up against.

"warmed-over sample jazz" vs the thrilling sounds of late de la soul

Yay let's choose the further! Where's my Runaways UK record?

former, ahem.

Why is no one turning up to defend mid-90s Ninja Tune? DJ Food fans? Anyone?

stuff didn't age very well. i still have a soft spot for Journeyman though.

stuff on mo'wax is much better than the runaways uk because it's spacier, colder, darker, druggier. same reason most people say dubstep is better than other breaks-driven stuff, like, uh, meat katie. and why people say meat katie is better than the freestylers.

i like dj food! jazz brakes 4 and 5, recipe for disaster, refried food, the one krautrock / philip glass type music EP that came in the clear case ... all dope.

Runways UK is RPM. They sound almost exactly the same. And I've heard most of the records you list there and those are no the adjectives I would use to described most of them. But whatever I'm glad someone is getting something out of them.

runaways UK is rpm?

that's cool, i mean roni size 93 is roni size 2008, doesn't mean there aren't good and bad roni size albums

More like Roni Size 94 is like Roni Size 95.

there's always a line

MW MFW 004 Various Mo Wax vs. Major Force: Time Has Come (12")
MW MFW 004 Various Mo Wax vs. Major Force: Time Has Come (12", Promo, W/Lbl

Are these two releases actually different btw?

yes, the second one is "Promo, W/Lbl", you ask such dense questions sometimes

Haha well I want to be sure. Have to complete my Jimmy Lavelle collection ya know.

mo wax put out some pretty turgid stuff over the years didn't they ? i couldn't stand attica blues for example. at least flying lotus has some bounce in his beats. will be interesting to see what he comes up with for the latest mary anne hobbs round up...

Radio 1 bass queen and biker chick Mary Anne Hobbs follows up The Warrior Dubz with a new unmixed compilation Evangeline for Planet Mu.

Like her first compilation The Warrior Dubz (2006), Evangeline brings together cuts from established names in dubstep (Pinch, Boxcutter, Shackleton), grime (Wiley) and techno (Surgeon, Claro Intelecto) with newcomers such as Unitz and Ben Frost. The compilation also includes cuts from two anonymous (but presumably well-known) producers: Cult Of The 13th Hour and Dakimh.

Tracklist

CD

01 Ital Tek – Archaic
02 Unitz – The Drop (CD only)
03 Shackleton – In The Void
04 Cult Of The 13th Hour – The Way Of The Gun
05 Wiley – Local Lad
06 Headhunter vs Ekelon – Timewarp
07 Darqwan – Universal Wan-ting
08 Ben Frost – Theory Of Machines
09 Flying Lotus – Flattery (Sympathy For The Biters)
10 Dakimh - Done
11 DJ Pinch – E Motiv
12 Magnetic Man – Ligma VIP
13 Tes La Rok feat Uncle Sam – Up In The VIP (CD only)
14 Surgeon – Right Road To Dubland
15 Boxcutter – Kab 27
16 Claro Intelecto – Beautiful Death

you're complaining about turgid on a dubstep thread?

haha - yes this is hardly the place for using that word.

Flying Lotus is really very boring.

But Appleblim's compilation looks excellent. "Infinity Is Now" is one of my tracks of the year, and 2562 can't really do anything wrong at the moment. Same pretty much true for TRG and Martyn.

flying lotus's "dance floor stalker" is a lovely track.

tim finney = OTM, 99% of the time

i'll get my coat. (i still stand by flying lotus though)

this might be that 1%

sometimes i wonder why so much stuff that i find "relaxing" other people label "boring"

lol@carl craig's thoughts on dubstep -
http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/948/?pageno=7
Do you follow Dubstep?
Not actively, no. I had this really intense conversation with a guy at Rush Hour records in Amsterdam, a guy that was shopping there. He was almost, he was trying to force me to like Dubstep. You know, to just — to just tell him that I thought it was amazing. I was like, "I don't even know!" I know what Dubstep is but I don't know much of the music. He's like, "Ok, listen to this!" And the track that he played was a really boring dub reggae-ish record. Dub is great for three minutes each track. But 10 minutes, it's like, what the fuck is this? I like music. I don't care if it's Techno or House or dub reggae or Trance… Ok, I do kinda there. But if it's a good track, that's what I'm interested in. I don't care what style it is. If fucking Britney Spears makes a track that's good, I'm gonna like it.

The appleblim is definitely great - i heard a good 2/3 of it ahead of time but it still mixes nice.

Carl Craig otm

Really great mix and nice that tempa aren't just pushing the jump-up-dulltard-bullshit which is surely where, relatively, the big bucks are in dubstep.

Echo Tim's sentiments on TRG (Ramadanman refix isn't too clever however), 2562 & Martyn

Nice vocal tracks too.