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or 12-issue collections of Sandman Mystery Theatre printed in b&w, with light half-toning if needed for clarity

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 25 May 2018 21:52 (one year ago) link

Would buy except that I wouldn't allow myself to get burned by a third SMT reprint project that distractedly wanders off before it's finished what it set out to do (the most recent having ended with a paltry two volumes).

I had also totally forgotten that Sandman wasn't always a Vertigo comic, so good to be reminded/corrected.

My fave Vertigo comics remain two mini-series written by Pete Milligan at the top of his game - The Extremist, with Ted McKeever, and Enigma, with Duncan Fegredo.

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 26 May 2018 07:43 (one year ago) link

Enigma was one of the best things to come out of Vertigo.

(In before the boffins: Enigma was actually intended to be part of Disney's Touchmark mature readers imprint along with several other titles that ultimately formed the foundation of Vertigo proper after Disney got cold feet.)

I always liked Sebastian O, from Grant Morrison’s “cheeky young man” phase, although it might have benefited from being half or twice the length.

I’ve started Enigma multiple times in my life and never finished it. Will try again this weekend.

Has the gap between Seaguy 1&2 been longer than the gap between 2 & now? Not that I need to see them - the sequel was only ok.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 26 May 2018 23:32 (one year ago) link

Vertigo was practically the Sandman imprint rather than vice versa and I’m not gonna budge on it

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Saturday, 26 May 2018 23:45 (one year ago) link

There’s definitely an argument that one of the reasons the imprint existed was because of the widespread recognition and respect that the Sandman was receiving - but even so that’s some impressively crazy talk there.

What it definitely was, was the Karen Berger imprint - I was wondering if the thread revive was related to her new imprint, which I haven’t read anything in yet.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 27 May 2018 06:31 (one year ago) link

Extremist and Sebastian O were also both Touchmark books iirc

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Sunday, 27 May 2018 09:50 (one year ago) link

Also Tattered Banners, Mercy. Maybe also Tell Me, Dark?

I think the Shadow's Fall miniseries by John Nay Rieber was Touchmark as well.

Duane Barry, Sunday, 27 May 2018 13:34 (one year ago) link

Tell Me Dark was published by DC pre-Vertigo, Shadows Fall was Touchmark, as was Mercy. Tattered Banners seems unlikely as it was so much later, not even faintly gothy, and neither Giffen nor McMahon were in Touchmark's promo, but iirc it did lay fallow for years before being finished without Giffen.

Still, if there's one thing we can say, it's that what Vertigo definitely was, was the Art Young imprint.

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:34 (one year ago) link

Five years between Seaguy 1 and Seaguy 2, nine years and counting since Seaguy 2.

Never mind though: yeah, Seaguy 2 was weak, Seaguy 1 was the worst of that cluster of Morrison minis, and Morrison is sadly bad not good now.

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:36 (one year ago) link

Here's a good rundown on the Touchmark backstory, with scans of promo material: https://www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-321/

I think I mistakenly included Tattered Banners because it was announced very early, alongside many of the initial Vertigo titles, but as you mention wasn't released until many years later.

Tell Me Dark was published by DC pre-Vertigo

also not Vertigo:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/14/148518/2883281-better_mr_e_1_cover.jpg

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Sunday, 27 May 2018 23:01 (one year ago) link

K.w. jeter?!

Οὖτις, Sunday, 27 May 2018 23:07 (one year ago) link

Speaking of proto-Vertigo mature readers titles, I just remembered that a collection of Del Close and John Ostrander's Wasteland was hinted at a while back but has apparently disappeared into the ether. That's a bummer.

would for sure be a lesser reading experience in collection

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Sunday, 27 May 2018 23:52 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

A few of these are now being published by Dover, of all people, who have also rescued some other lovely, earlier comics works from neglect: http://store.doverpublications.com/by-subject-graphic-novels-and-comics-graphic-novels.html

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 00:55 (one year ago) link

Oh sweet, thanks for the tip.

I have that Puma Blues collection. Or a Puma Blues collection. If it's Dover, I never noticed.

A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 June 2018 01:20 (one year ago) link

If it's the 2015 one with the new ending, that's the Dover one.

There's only one Vertigo book in that lineup, really - Mercy was a Touchmark refugee, but probably came along with the Seekers rights when they were dealing with deMatteis.

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, 28 June 2018 02:00 (one year ago) link

Yeah, that's the Puma Blues edition I have. It's a nice big hardcover, which is not what I generally associate with Dover.

Delano's World Without End was a proto-Vertigo DC mature readers title.

A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:27 (one year ago) link

The Charyn/Boucq graphic novels are all essential, esp The Magician's Wife - just a shame the page size is smaller than on the original Catalan translations.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:31 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

It ain't been what it once was for many a moon, but still...RIP(?) Vertigo.

Fucken DC, man...

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 23:04 (four months ago) link

If true, it feels inevitable, but still sad.

And that 25th Anniversary celebration book didn't even materialise!

Duane Barry, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 01:06 (four months ago) link

My first reaction was, BUT... SEAGUY 3!!

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:45 (four months ago) link

I'm sure Morrison will be given carte blanche to do whatever he wants to do under the regular DC banner, but I'm not sure he'd want to given the changes they made to creator contracts a while back.

I mean, there's not much material change, as whatever little wisp of Vertigo currently remaining doesn't in any way resemble what it was back in the day, and since (as far as I can tell) the Vertigo-esque/Vertigo-lite stuff they've been publishing lately (eg Gerard Way's Young Animal stuff, the Sandman-verse titles) are unaffected. Even though the line has been a bloated drunken shut-in for most of its existence, I still mourn for the impact it had in its sleek and jaunty youth.

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:54 (four months ago) link

I think the last Vertigo comic I bought before Seaguy was the third issue of The Invisibles. Inbetween was my “comics, they ARE just for kids” snooty teenage phase.

TBH, as a kid, Vertigo’s biggest draw was the extra boobs in SHADE.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:01 (four months ago) link


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