otoh, legacies can be erased
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link
i don't think R Kelly is going to get many new fans down the road, that's one way to do it.
― omar little, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link
on the other hand, it's crazy what fans will say to defend him, how they'll still believe he's being railroaded or even did nothing wrong.
― omar little, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link
BREAKING: Embattled R&B superstar R. Kelly was charged with 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse in Cook County Friday morning, records show. https://t.co/H7k2Ind5F7— Chicago Sun-Times (@Suntimes) February 22, 2019
― omar little, Friday, 22 February 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link
That only took ... years and years of inaction and unrepentant repugnant behavior.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 February 2019 19:14 (five years ago) link
don't forget the michael jackson-style messianic self-aggrandizing songs!
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 19:20 (five years ago) link
What in the everloving fuck @ this thread.
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 22 February 2019 21:02 (five years ago) link
lol Lifetime, so brave, surely they are doing this in order to damage his career rather than profit off of it― Οὖτις, Tuesday, May 8, 2018 11:11 AM (nine months ago)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, May 8, 2018 11:11 AM (nine months ago)
Damn, Shakey, this was cynical!
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link
that's a weird comment
why not both?
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 21:26 (five years ago) link
Beyond why not both, they also undoubtedly had to factor in the risk of a defamation claim
HBO actually is being sued by the Jackson Estate for airing the "Leaving Neverland" doc (though that's a wild-seeming contractual claim based on a 1992 agreement for airing a concert, in which HBO apparently agreed "not make any disparaging remarks" about Jackson)
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link
this thread title is very internet-2002 in a bad way
― dyl, Saturday, 23 February 2019 03:08 (five years ago) link
Now I want to know what Marcello could have said that was serious enough to get deleted in 2008
― You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Saturday, 23 February 2019 03:26 (five years ago) link
don’t try it.
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 23 February 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link
sounds like he is in custody
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 23 February 2019 03:58 (five years ago) link
which record is that on?
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 February 2019 04:13 (five years ago) link
Step in the Name of the Law
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 February 2019 04:57 (five years ago) link
wau at s clover
― Norm’s Superego (silby), Saturday, 23 February 2019 18:11 (five years ago) link
cant believe the time before now wasnt now
― cristiano ornaldo (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link
being loud and mad and red online about how 27-year-olds should be allowed to fuck 14-year-olds without censure probably has as many adherents now as it did then
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 23 February 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link
aaliyah said it best. age ain't... i.e. maturity doesn't come at the stroke of midnight but differently for different people. besides, two teen can consentually screw but not an adult and a teen, which makes no sense.― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, June 5, 2002 5:00 PM (sixteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, June 5, 2002 5:00 PM (sixteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
And feminists with their boneheaded equation of emotional and physical harm have done a great disservice in this regard. Yesyes I know I am making enemies of everyone in ILX. Fuckit.― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, June 5, 2002 5:00 PM (sixteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
but we have to remember that things were a lot different in the 2000s
― omar little, Saturday, 23 February 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link
This thread isn’t regular old-ilx bad, it’s some of these people must be on a register by now bad
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Saturday, 23 February 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link
More props for the Lifetime doc:https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/r-kelly-survivor-lisa-vanallen-writes-ny-times-op-ed-1190441https://variety.com/2019/music/news/john-legend-r-kelly-long-time-coming-1203150150/(Someone should maybe change this thread title, btw?)
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link
(...thanks, mod!)
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:49 (five years ago) link
_but we have to remember that things were a lot different in the 2000s
― nathom, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link
i believe omar little was being facetious
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link
i remember in 2002 thinking that a 24 year post-grad student going out with a 17 year school girl was weird lol
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link
If I were actually to consider accusing a network of looking to “profit” from these developments, it would be CBS for airing this week’s big two-part interview with R. Kelly. I guess he certainly has the right to defend himself on TV if he wants. But it feels like the exclusive, heavily promoted interview may serve to legitimize his position in some way? Idk
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link
dude took all the wrong lessons from the Kavanaugh hearing
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link
But it feels like the exclusive, heavily promoted interview may serve to legitimize his position in some way?
Have you seen it? He pretty much set himself on fire.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link
I’ve read excerpts.
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 21:52 (five years ago) link
Back in jail for unpaid child support.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 22:01 (five years ago) link
"also i said the same sorta stuff about king and boys, so yes it was to be expected."
who is King? wait was this S clover actually advocating for pederasty?
man the 2000's were crazy weird times.
― akm, Thursday, 7 March 2019 03:51 (five years ago) link
i kind of get the rhetorical move he's trying to make t/o this thread... but suggesting that a 12(!!!!!!!!) yr old girl can grant "consent" to have intercourse with an adult male--as he indeed does above-- is an incredible thing to write.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 04:01 (five years ago) link
i believe he's gone from ILX so we can rake him over the coals safely I suppose.
― akm, Thursday, 7 March 2019 04:05 (five years ago) link
he posted on here a bit kinda recently.
― omar little, Thursday, 7 March 2019 04:14 (five years ago) link
it's more difficult to post with one hand holding an "R KELLY DID NOTHING WRONG" protest sign while standing outside a courthouse but he managed
― omar little, Thursday, 7 March 2019 04:15 (five years ago) link
i'm not sure he was trying to apologize for r. kelly much as he was trying to introduce some nuance (usually a good gesture) into a situation that doesn't really call for nuance.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 04:19 (five years ago) link
i mean i can imagine a reasonable person writing something like "well, that 17 y.o. was very emotionally mature for her age" but trying to make that move w/ a 12 y.o.? holy shit.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 04:21 (five years ago) link
DeRo totally righteous on NPR's 1A right now.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 March 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link
R. Kelly's lawyer from his 2008 trial is dying of cancer and wants everyone to know Kelly was 'guilty as hell' https://t.co/DKYioShMbx— INSIDER (@thisisinsider) March 8, 2019
― Simon H., Friday, 8 March 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link
ok, but wtf? -- Genson also told the paper he doesn't think Kelly is guilty of the current charges against him: "I don't think he's done anything inappropriate for years."
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:39 (five years ago) link
wow a lot to unpack in that article
― frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link
One of the men in the jury pool...who said he liked to crochet and had planned a trip to Germany to visit his boyfriend, said he wasn't too familiar with R. Kelly and thought the trial was about Robert Crumb, the 77-year-old cartoonist who signs his work as "R. Crumb."
https://www.insider.com/r-kelly-trial-lawyers-want-charges-dropped-jury-selection-begins-2021-8
― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link
they both like feelin’ on your booty
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 02:41 (two years ago) link