or blues derived rather
― chant down basildon (NickB), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link
fahey is the real deal in that he's what everyone's copying
You accuse the ML fans / Diabete ignorers of engaging in (I guess hype-centered?) myopia and then you say this.
To say "everyone" is copying Fahey is so completely and demonstrably false, as you well know. I'd love to hear what exactly Nathan Salsburg, Cian Nugent, Paul Metzger, or Rick Bishop have to do with Fahey, to name four completely different acoustic guitarists we've mentioned on this thread and others. The frustrating thing for me about the so-called post-Takoma stuff (and things like the Thousand Incarnations festival) is that it shoves a lot of very distinctive players into this "American Primitive" box, which is imo probably the least musically interesting music being made by solo guitar players in 2018. Fahey / Rose copycats are everywhere because it's the easiest style to passably imitate. No one is "doing" Bert Jansch, to say nothing of Debashish Bhuttacharya, because that shit is way more difficult than figuring out how to play Mississippi John Hurt tunes for audiences raised on At The Drive In and Built To Spill.
This is not at all to discount the talent (and in many cases genius) of players like Fahey and Rose (and Bachman, who I think is a pretty huge cut above a lot of his contemporaries). I just think those guys should be the final word on "Sunflower River Blues" and sidelong slide guitar ragas because enough already.
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
yah i feel like blackshaw is way more descended from UK folk by way of Philip Glass than Am Priv
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link
UK folk by way of Philip Glass
What is the best Blackshaw album to listen to for this sound? I've only listened to Apologia, which I like a lot but seems Ampriv/country blues-rooted to me. That description sounds awesome, though.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link
because that shit is way more difficult than figuring out how to play Mississippi John Hurt tunes for audiences raised on At The Drive In and Built To Spill.
this cuts deep
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link
Sund4r - try The Glass Bead Game
― chant down basildon (NickB), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link
Oh, 4m in, Glass Bead Game is definitely up my alley.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link
way more difficult than figuring out how to play Mississippi John Hurt tunes for audiences raised on At The Drive In and Built To Spill.
actually takes some practice champ try it sometime
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link
sorry harp threads make me aggro
#side2mywar
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
At The Drive In and Built To Spill
would attend this co-headlining tour, mary lattimore opening ofc
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link
hope mary lattimore doesn't start dating elon musk or shit is gonna get ugly itt
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
how soon ye forget the wars of the newsom
― chant down basildon (NickB), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link
man, god forbid someone just thinks lattimore's songs are pretty
― alpine static, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link
If there's one cynical opinion that ogmor's arguments are reminding me that I've flirted with, it's that sometimes a hip and respected artist can make anything normally dull and uninspired interesting to their audience just because they're doing it. Is that kind of what ogmor is getting at here?
Fahey / Rose copycats are everywhere because it's the easiest style to passably imitate.
Yes and no. It depends on who you ask. How do you feel about abstract expressionist or color field painting?
― Evan, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 01:36 (five years ago) link
I know that for every Jackson Pollock or Rothko, there are a thousand pretenders who think "I can do that," and they are usually dead wrong and end up producing something that bears only the slightest and most superficial resemblance to the genuine article.
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 12:22 (five years ago) link
folks would we even be having this massive struggle session if we were talking about MARIO Lattimore? makes u think
― Simon H., Wednesday, 23 May 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link
mario lattimore bravely challenges the culture of toxic masculinity on his new harp album
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 12:55 (five years ago) link
I think that guy did my kitchen tiles, but he pronounced it "latta-MOR-ay"
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 13:07 (five years ago) link
his tiling is sharpthen he plays you his harplatta-MOR-ay
― chant down basildon (NickB), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 13:13 (five years ago) link
I've seen kora players in The Gambia and I like Marion Lattimorus, so check the size of my spuds.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link
the appetite for hostility is more disturbing to me than the substance of this particular accusation against the harp music of mary lattimore.― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, May 21, 2018 3:16 PM (two days ago)
This is seriously OTM, LL.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link
Ok, I LOLed
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link
anyway the brigade threads have been generally the best and nicest threads on ilm for a long time and i really love all the regulars so i'm glad all this shit got hashed out in another thread, though lattimore probably has little to do with it.
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link
“Ppl's lack of interest in something as niche as instrumental harp music doesn't seem like a refusal until they latch onto one particular example and then you wonder why this and not that. There's been quite an upturn in interest in instrumental string music in recent years but it's largely centred around this american scene, w/ a mixture of ppl from the previous early 00s takomish boom (& those they've inspired), the usual mix of often older psych and drone fans, and increasingly ppl who have followed their bliss from other scenes which have moved into more mellow, new age territory, which has become a converging point.“
This seems fair and reasonably likely to me though apart from a few isolated examples (e.g. Blackshaw) I don’t know much of the American music you’re referring to - case in point, I discovered Lattimore off a friend who has a shared love of the new agey end of Balearic revivalism. My go-to reference points for Lattimore when first listening (and especially her latest album) would be stuff like Wolf Muller & Cass rather than Toumani and Sidiki Diabate, though obviously if viewed in terms of the choice of lead instrument the latter makes sense. I had heard Toumani before, but not the 2014 album, and it is magical, though in ways that feel very different to me than ML.
In that sense my entry point and frame for ML are perhaps precisely the sonic trappings which you’d consider represent aesthetic choices which are wrong or dubious or cynical, I dunno.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link
― Davey D, Thursday, 24 May 2018 06:39 (five years ago) link
https://threelobed.bandcamp.com/album/ghost-forests
― velko, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 05:43 (five years ago) link
excited for this!
the only track available is lush, reminds me of grouper a bit
― nxd, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 09:08 (five years ago) link
Beautiful song
― flappy bird, Thursday, 13 September 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link
Painter of Tygers sounds just like His Name is Alive circa 1992. Gorgeous
― john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
meant to post here that if anyone is craving more fresh instrumental harp music SOAR by Catrin Finch and Seckou Keita (on kora) is v v good
https://open.spotify.com/album/2s5WYOg1fezE42u6X0GqJc?si=NPVnH4Q7T06un-ZMOtnG_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urnm8Aync5s
― niels, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link
Enjoying this, thanks.
― jmm, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link
Mary Lattimore on the PBS @NewsHour just now! Very cool 👏 pic.twitter.com/vkbeFymeVX— Nicky Smith (@nickyotissmith) April 20, 2019
― flappy bird, Saturday, 20 April 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link
I just came to say her new album is rather lovely and then I re-read the thread...
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 14 November 2020 09:54 (three years ago) link
I will state ftr that I'm in the upper reaches of the 30-50 bracket and have very much given up.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 14 November 2020 09:57 (three years ago) link
She is fantastic and I love the new one
― change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 14 November 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link
I think this album is her strongest yet & ogmor can suck it
― real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
https://bfplny.com/event/electric-appalachia/
Jan 25 at 7:30pmSILENT FILMS / LIVE MUSIC:ELECTRIC APPALACHIAElectric Appalachia is scored and performed by Mary Lattimore and William Tyler.Experience the first evening of the Silent Films/Live Music series with the New York premiere of “Electric Appalachia.” Using found archival footage, the film offers a meditation on electricity and modernity in East Tennessee. Compiled by Eric Dawson (director at the Tennessee Archive of Moving Image and Sound – TAMIS) with score written and performed by guitarist William Tyler and harpist Mary Lattimore.No RSVP is required. Seating is first come, first served. Free popcorn while supplies last.
Experience the first evening of the Silent Films/Live Music series with the New York premiere of “Electric Appalachia.” Using found archival footage, the film offers a meditation on electricity and modernity in East Tennessee. Compiled by Eric Dawson (director at the Tennessee Archive of Moving Image and Sound – TAMIS) with score written and performed by guitarist William Tyler and harpist Mary Lattimore.No RSVP is required. Seating is first come, first served. Free popcorn while supplies last.
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link
New album today https://marylattimoreharpist.bandcamp.com/album/goodbye-hotel-arkada
― giraffe, Friday, 6 October 2023 09:55 (six months ago) link
Listening now, it's fantastic.
― Chris L, Saturday, 7 October 2023 16:03 (six months ago) link
Was about to make the exact same post, lol
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Saturday, 7 October 2023 16:05 (six months ago) link
Great stuff
― nxd, Saturday, 7 October 2023 19:20 (six months ago) link