The Houston Astros of the American League West

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Even when looking at a single season, I'm still inclined to take a step back and look at the pitchers you're talking about. Maybe one day we'll view Cole and McCullers as career stars, but they're far from that now; Morton's a journeyman. That Phillies staff only peaked for one year, but you had Halladay, Lee, Hamels, and Oswalt all together in the same place.

clemenza, Monday, 21 May 2018 23:51 (two years ago) link

Morton and Cole had good moments with the Pirates but they were also pretty inconsistent. This is way beyond what they did there. No way they can keep this up, but still that is a heck of a start and adding in Morton's playoff heroics on top, quite impressive.

earlnash, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:05 (two years ago) link

As for Verlander, I think people are overplaying how good he is right now. Power pitchers seem to have a bit of bounce back later in their careers, many pitchers had them. I think part of it is that they re-gain their control which brings back the Ks and cuts down on the walks.

earlnash, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:08 (two years ago) link

Verlander looked cooked 2-3 years ago.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:43 (two years ago) link

looks like he's rebounded for real. his velocity has gotten back to where it used to be basically. that usually helps

k3vin k., Tuesday, 22 May 2018 01:58 (two years ago) link

The Astros have allowed 126 runs through 50 games, which are the fewest in the Major Leagues since 1920 (live ball era). The previous record of 128 was set by the Indians in 1968.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) May 23, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:48 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Kevin:
Are the Astros lack of luck unprecedented? Don’t think I’ve seen a team 7 games worse than their pythag this early in the season before.

Jay Jaffe:
I don’t have any historical data to support or refute that, but their 4-12 record in one-run games and the Mariners’ 18-9 record in same is the big reason why Seattle is a game ahead in the AL West despite a run differential that’s nearly 100 runs smaller (+118 to +21)

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:12 (two years ago) link

um, it's not "luck" when you have a shitty bullpen

k3vin k., Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:17 (two years ago) link

huh, I guess their bullpen doesn't suck. retracted

k3vin k., Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:37 (two years ago) link

Released 25 years ago today.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:47 (two years ago) link

lol, wrong thread.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:47 (two years ago) link

(aside from some sporadic sketchiness from Giles, the Astros bullpen is awesome fwiw... they have 2 legit starters stashed in there in case of emergency).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:57 (two years ago) link

Keuchel has been poor to outright terrible for the last month+.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 11 June 2018 00:47 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Fresno manager Rodney Linares, Fresno hitting coach Darryl Robinson, Buies Creek manager Morgan Ensberg and Corpus Christi developmental coach Mycal Jones aren't being retained by the Astros for 2019.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) September 18, 2018

these teams all did very well this year and linares in particular seems to be a rising managerial star?

for an organization that's been so successful over the last few years, luhnow seems to can a lot of people -- think he's fired a bunch of scouts as well

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:09 (one year ago) link

one month passes...
six months pass...

How Many Kemps

Andy K, Saturday, 27 April 2019 23:22 (one year ago) link

Reddick with the #astros catch of the year pic.twitter.com/fAxRevByLI

— Houston Sports Talk Podcast (@HSTPodcast) May 10, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:42 (one year ago) link

It's early and this won't last and all of the qualifiers you choose to apply here, however, were one so inclined you could look at the best-ever wRC+ leaderboards and..

129 -- @astros, 2019
126 -- NYY, 1927
124 -- NYY, 1930 & 31
122 -- @astros, 2017
120 -- CIN, 1976 (+3 others)

— Mike Petriello (@mike_petriello) May 10, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 10 May 2019 18:53 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

How stacked is this Astros team? If the top six Astros weren’t allowed to bat and instead of replacing them with minor leaguers, the team filled in the missing plate appearances with the remaining players’ 2019 lines, the team would project to score roughly 4.5 runs a game after accounting for park factors. With the team’s great pitching (3.53 runs per game allowed), their Pythagorean winning percentage would be .611. The hobbled Astros would have the fifth-best Pythagorean winning percentage in baseball. Want it in BaseRuns? That still works out to a .610 expected winning percentage, fourth-best in baseball.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-astros-are-ludicrous/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:42 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Houston's offense:

https://www.mlb.com/news/astros-have-historically-good-offense-in-2019

Most hitters with at least a 130 OPS+ in 250+ PA
1) 2019 Astros: 7
2-T) 1993 Tigers: 6
2-T) 1987 Tigers: 6
16 teams tied with 5, including 2019 Yankees

(The seven: Altuve, Brantley, Bregman, Gurriel, Springer, Correa, and Alvarez.)

clemenza, Monday, 9 September 2019 21:01 (ten months ago) link

team wRC+ is now 124, tied for second-best ever behind the '27 yankees

mookieproof, Monday, 9 September 2019 21:04 (ten months ago) link

(Had no recollection of that '93 Tigers team as being especially noteworthy, and when you look at them, it's somewhat misleading in that they had a bunch of guys just clear the 130+ mark--two guys were at exactly 130+, and their leader was at 138+. The Astros, by contrast, have four guys in the 130-139 range, Springer at 148+, Bregman at 159+, and Alvarez at 174+ in half-a-season.)

clemenza, Monday, 9 September 2019 21:07 (ten months ago) link

Winning 11-0 after three tonight; they've outscored the Mariners and A's 32-1 over 12 innings.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 01:23 (ten months ago) link

two home runs for this year's AL rookie of the year!

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 01:25 (ten months ago) link

alvarez the second player ever to reach houston’s top deck in right

i’ll buy you a beer if you can guess the first

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 02:11 (ten months ago) link

Albert Pujols off Brad Lidge. I'll take a pilsner please.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 05:22 (ten months ago) link

that was in left

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 08:39 (ten months ago) link

The only other player to do so prior to Alvarez was former Met Jeromy Burnitz back in 2000.

(yes i cheated)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:54 (ten months ago) link

dang Jeromy Burnitz hit 315 home runs.

omar little, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:29 (ten months ago) link

i'm trying to imagine where that puts him on the alltime list. In the 60s or 70s?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:43 (ten months ago) link

lol, i should've known: 130th

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:44 (ten months ago) link

No guarantee at all that they'll win everything--the best team on paper rarely does--but with that offense + Verlander/Cole/Greinke (Miley would be the #1 starter for more than a few teams), and Osuna (good enough), they look '70 Orioles/'75 Reds/'98 Yankees good right now.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 18:22 (ten months ago) link

Run diff:

The #Astros have had quite the spike in recent days 👀👀👀 pic.twitter.com/CCL1gD3IAk

— Daren Willman (@darenw) September 10, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:05 (ten months ago) link

howbout the '54 Indians?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:10 (ten months ago) link

'84 Tigers and '86 Mets, for sure. I don't know...I'm probably contradicting myself, but to be included in this group, winning the Series seems important.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:21 (ten months ago) link


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