WestWorld: ...Where nothing can possibly go worng!

shogun wolrd is 1000x better than westworld

in other words, elvis telecom otm

the host-to-host network was pretty obviously the thing Maeve is using because she's a host communicating with/controlling other hosts?

also I have no idea why a virus that was 90% backstory and not infecting real animals needs delving into. it's a metaphor about killing the weak before they get sick and infect the strong. teddy's gotta get strong real fast or he's heading to the dustbin of history

shogun world having a lot of stories photocopied from westworld was a nice reverse on seven samurai/magnificent seven

teddy's gotta get strong real fast or he's heading to the dustbin of history

And he winds up that way anyway! Dolores’ idea of strength is completely sociopathic.

nah, he's still weak

she's talking about unrepentant killing any host she thinks won't be of use in battle, and Teddy's letting people go

she might be sociopathic but she has a damn ethos

I think Teddy's still just tryna find ways of advocating that the two of them just go off and do cuddly homesteadin' while Westworld burns

this show is so shapeless and boring. they have no idea where they're going or why, do they

they have no idea where they're going or why, do they

I have the opposite fear: that they DO know where they're going. They have it all mapped out. It will take years to get there. And it'll turn out to be some mind-gnawingly boring and/or nonsensical bullshit. Basically the Lost model.

If they were really just making it up as they went along, that would at least allow for the possibility of something fun and/or interesting happening by sheer accident.

aren't they going ... west

the idea that there are a bunch of robots who are now aware of their state, but still only have the narrow language and characterological reactions of their stereotypical programming to apprehend it, is really interesting! the show seems only barely aware that's what it's about or something.

they should make Bernard go back to glitching and do a full-on Michael Crichton story crossover: he becomes The Terminal Man and goes into occasional violent fugues

They set the stuff with Maeve in the ep where Bernard uses a host to locate Abernathy, so I thought something like this might be coming.

mh did you watch the last episode? Or are you rob bricken?

I don’t get hating on this show for being too much like Lost or for “not going anywhere” - if you don’t care about the characters just say so, otherwise you’re just saying this television is like television like some kind of Goldilocks who has no business in a house for bears

Sad thing is that it is so rare for science fiction on TV to get a decent budget and chance to do something different, you want it to be good but thing is that many probably know a handful of science fiction books/comics that would be better than what you got dealt.

I fell asleep late on the long first episode and saw all of season 1. Westworld was mostly mediocre and bit too soap opera. The only episode that I thought held up on it's own as a good tv show was the one when Maeve realized she wasn't crazy and figured out what the drawings meant.

Don't think Westworld has any hold on Lost, that show had quite a few good episodes that were very well done, it's just that the overall arc came up a bit flat. The whole buildup on the hatch was really great.

Westworld probably would have worked better as a long movie. There just is not enough really there to care about figuring out the secrets.

I guess what I meant to get at is that the violent fugues need fucking

Maeve not being able to use English commands on Japanese-speaking hosts might also explain how & why the Ghost Nation seem immune to the psychopath bug that’s spreading over the mesh network, and are still protecting guests (albeit by rounding them up, presumably as their storyline demands)

man I hate teddy. I can't wait until he's dead. that story line is so goddamned boring. More Maeve killing things and people and robots.

didn't even occur to me that the ghost nation was protecting guests.

Why were they interested in Sizemore?

I don’t get hating on this show for being too much like Lost or for “not going anywhere” - if you don’t care about the characters just say so

I'll say it. I think the entire Dolores storyline including her, Teddy, and whatever goddamn robo-consciousness the show is trying to portray is 100% inert junk with zero stakes at all.

there are no stakes anywhere in this thing. just this happens then this happens then oh hey actually [chappellepac voice] I wrote this shit a long time ago then some other stuff DO YOU SEE

Why were they interested in Sizemore?

This show has weirdly turned into hand tremor porn.

that thought led me to the idea of "tremors porn" and there's no turning back

it dawned on me that having dolores/maeve acting out the realization of ford's/arnold's plans is some really ham-fisted scripting when it comes to, uh, visual cues

The last two weeks have been fun. Who knew that turning Teddy into a cold motherfucker would be such a key ingredient? (a: Dolores)

I am not sure how I feel about Ford being Bernard's Obi-Wan after he's now been killed TWICE.

Was it really necessary for elon musk's ex-girlfriend to spend that much time monologuing at the spec ops dude who stole my haircut before pulling the pin on his grenade?

Hale and Stubbs still being alive is ridiculous.

RIP MIB, a mean guy who almost learned something.

Fornoldard

The song Madame Akane danced to was a little OTT.

― incel clown posse (naus), Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:09 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what was that a cover of?

― El Tomboto, Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:10 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://youtu.be/__DEAK3AinM

― incel clown posse (naus), Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:34 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not watching this season but I made a club remix of that ;)

elon musk's ex-girlfriend

who with the what now?

that monologue was ridiculously ott though, when it was painfully obvious she was there to blow up the room

after the reveal that there's a virtual westworld that ford's hiding out in, I spent a week wandering around mumbling "how many westworlds deep are we right now, anyway?"

I'd be actually angry if they show that the events we've seen are in a virtual westworld and we've only had a couple real world scenes, but again, one of the Nolans

RIP MIB, a mean guy who almost learned something.

we sure he's dead? i'm thinking there's gonna be a daughter ex machina and he'll pull through

there's gonna be a scene of her putting on his hat, lol

yeah i don't think he's dead, last shot of him he was alive (barely).

also I don't know what is happening on this show any more.

the Bernard time jumps are purposefully obtuse, and now they're teasing us with them in an attempt to get the audience to question how many Bernards there are, imo

Never mind, ex-wife! Craziness.

Buckets o' Bernards

xp oh wow she's the actress that married Musk twice! wild stuff

I'd be actually angry if they show that the events we've seen are in a virtual westworld and we've only had a couple real world scenes, but again, one of the Nolans

would this explain why in season 1 hosts shooting guests somehow did nothing? or has that been explained at some point and I just missed it? for the first half of season 1 I totally thought westworld was supposed to be a virtual world because of that.

the guns aren't authentic guns and have some sort of safety mode when fired at real people. when ford's new narrative kicked in at the party, he somehow disabled the safeties. they only briefly mentioned it, kind of glad it didn't become a major plot point.

Yeah it seemed to me like there's some vague technology where the guns still gave humans knock-back but didn't hurt them? Then somehow that safeguard was reverted and the guns behaved like normal. The mechanics of such a thing have not been addressed and it's really tough to rationalize but it's not really worth getting hung up on.

wasn't that addressed again with the william daughter shooting the dude to prove he's real thing in colonial india world?

"if you're hostin' me, you won't remember. if you're real, it's gonna hurt but be a real turn-on for both of us."

wasn't that addressed again with the william daughter shooting the dude to prove he's real thing in colonial india world?

― andrew m., Thursday, June 7, 2018 11:42 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah but not how it works? Again it seems pointless and comic-book-guyish to harp on that but when you think about it for a minute it's kind of hard to wrap my head around it...

They are real bullets that instantly "know" whether they're hitting a human or not? But they can disable this setting and becomes regular bullets apparently? Sure I guess...

But anyway I don't want to get wrapped up in that. Not really extremely useful for the plot unless there was a way to turn on that "setting" again. Or did I miss it being explained when the switch happened initially?

I feel like my enjoyment of this show is facilitated by letting it wash over me when it's on and letting it wash away when it isn't. I'm not sure that enjoyment would hold up if I got stuck in a Lost-esque theoretical k-hole.

Well, I only really care to know in case like I said it CAN affect the plot (bullets get re-nerfed maybe?). Otherwise I agree.

wouldn't matter too much now that most of Dolores's posse have real, non-WW guns that the paramilitary types brought in