If you are doomed to lose KAT, no matter what you do (which was the fate of that perennial doormat, the Clippers, through most of their existence), then you are screwed for the next couple of years, no matter what.
But usually the root cause of such woes is an incompetent front office, so the real answer is buying some top-notch front office execs and give them about 6 years to turn your franchise around. That includes hiring the right coach and GM, of course.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 19 May 2018 02:40 (five years ago) link
no more dual role coaches. Ever.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 19 May 2018 02:41 (five years ago) link
has it ever worked in modern times?
― ciderpress, Saturday, 19 May 2018 02:45 (five years ago) link
someone will come out clean from the kat/thibs conflict but we don't know who it is yet
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 May 2018 02:46 (five years ago) link
like i'm not saying thibs has been a good coach for the wolves but there are a lot of good players who would run through a wall for him. if kat isn't one of them it's fair to wonder why that is.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 May 2018 02:47 (five years ago) link
thibs signing the actually dead derrick rose in 2017 was the most lol thing
― Clay, Saturday, 19 May 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link
― EZ Snappin, Friday, May 18, 2018 10:41 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
feel like this is quickly becoming the accepted view
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 03:45 (five years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Friday, May 18, 2018 10:47 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
idk he seems kina awful imo, like he doesnt even respect his players health and they joke openly about it online
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 03:46 (five years ago) link
i dislike all the big angry guy coaches
― ciderpress, Saturday, 19 May 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link
i dont like how he always looks like when alex jones is super angry
lol xp
― Clay, Saturday, 19 May 2018 03:53 (five years ago) link
https://i1.wp.com/www.awolfamongwolves.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/TomThibodeau-angry1.jpg?fit=800%2C542
like cut it out man this ain't good for anybody and you are going to die
― Clay, Saturday, 19 May 2018 03:58 (five years ago) link
yeah yeah i get it but the good bulls teams under thibs were so insanely hard to play against, i'm fine w/giving up on him as a tactician but he could get people motivated to play.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 May 2018 04:02 (five years ago) link
he mightve just had the right mix of guys whod give 110 on D until they injured themselves
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 04:07 (five years ago) link
yeah and basically all those guys are out of the league now except jimmy
― Clay, Saturday, 19 May 2018 04:13 (five years ago) link
Well partially true I mean joakim will be getting paid by the league for like 4 more years
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 19 May 2018 05:25 (five years ago) link
@DevinBook @KarlTowns 😏👍🏽 pic.twitter.com/04R1QM3LzW— Zach LaVine (@ZachLaVine) May 19, 2018
― Jeff, Saturday, 19 May 2018 13:56 (five years ago) link
bums me out to think about how fast joakim went from dpoy to cooked.
― circles, Saturday, 19 May 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
this is a nightmare
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 May 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link
:(
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 19 May 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link
hey fwiw i opened up trade machine to see how a kawhi-KAT deal would look
i traded tatum for him
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link
if you die in the trade machine you die in real life
― ciderpress, Saturday, 19 May 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link
KAT to sunsKawhi to t wolvesDoncic, tj warren and some minny youngster /salary to spurs
― I'm Finn thanks, don't mention it (fionnland), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
Interesting but kawhi + Butler seems kinda redundant
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
Kawhi could use the soft touch Thibs provides.
― omar little, Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
many big switachable wings isnt too bad, celtics have three of those guys, i like that trade
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link
i had to check a second source to make sure teagues salary wasnt a typo lol
https://i.imgur.com/K7ucRfW.png
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/tN1eLap.png
+ #1 --> spurs
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
Ugh do not want Teague
― I'm Finn thanks, don't mention it (fionnland), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
hahahaha nah
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
conversely
https://i.imgur.com/TSuGWjR.png
+ this memphis pick --> minny
The Celtics will get the Memphis first round pick in 2019 if it is No. 9 overall or later; or No. 7 and later in 2020. Otherwise, the Celtics will receive the Memphis first round pick in 2021 with no restrictions.
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
i wouldnt trade tatum for KAT at this point.
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
if the celtics think they can tap his defensive potential then its a no brainer imo, if he kinda is what he is on D then yeah prob not
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link
he def doesnt seem like he has the ainge mindtype
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
Booker and kat yeah the suns def need more Kentucky bros
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 19 May 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link
i think the spurs shd risk it all for doncic current team is going nowhere, aldridge contract an albatross
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
I greatly doubt ainge will go angling after KAT. if he could get gobert, I believe he'd be willing to part with some talent.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 19 May 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link
suspect a traditional paint bound center isnt really in the celtics vision for the future
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
lol the celtics wouldn’t go near gobert
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 May 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link
jokic is the closest to the dream celtics center of the current up and comers
― ciderpress, Saturday, 19 May 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link
did you mean to type “anthony davis” there?
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 May 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link
kawhi confirmed gone
Spurs reportedly won't take anything less than 'grand-slam offer' for Kawhi Leonardhttps://t.co/fUVqwBUAc5 pic.twitter.com/OaauPjuZua— CBS Sports NBA (@CBSSportsNBA) May 18, 2018
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link
Deal going down at Denny’s
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link
im coming around to the idea that kawhi could be traded and i hate it
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link
i blame kevin durant honestly, this whole league is fucked up bc he went to GS
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
otm it was "the infinity war" of the NBA Cinematic Universe
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
xp wasn't including brow since hes basically a veteran now
― ciderpress, Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, May 19, 2018 1:03 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
like...i can see this argument bc as long as the hampton 5 is alive the chances of winning a title is small. but kawhi is still p young and theoretically in his prime for the duration of his next contract, and i think he can still be a cornerstone of a team that challenges for a title in that window. but if you have uncertainty about kawhi's health and commitment, you dont want that supermax deal eating up half the cap by year 5.
lma's contract isnt that bad bc he's actually a highly productive player who arguably just had his best season. he has 3 years left on his deal and the spurs dont have a lot of salary committed to anyone else in that third year. they could theorteicaly rebuild on the fly with LMA shouldering #1 duties while they pursue a youth movement around whomever they could bring in for kawhi plus dejounte, their #18 pick, and some other younger role players on the roster. but i can't really see pop doing that at age 69.
the pau gasol contract is truly atrocious bc his value only diminishes by the year and he's getting $32.8m over the next two. if they can find some team that needs to meet the salary floor while they tank, then they can clear space for lebron james this summer.
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 19 May 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link
this is probably the most important offseason in spurs history though in terms of the range of possible outcomes. they could get kawhi back plus lebron and be a challenger to GS and HOU in the west. or they could trade kawhi and strike out on big free agents and struggle to make the playoffs next year. tony parker has said he would consider signing with another team. manu could retire. three rotation players have player options. or...they could bring back a really similar looking team next year. no idea.
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 19 May 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link
another thing that pisses me off about Thibs is when someone is as good at creating for others (and underrated defense) as Ricky, wouldn't you at least want to see him with 3 players with the scoring ability Butler, KAT and Wiggins for one year and least? close minded oaf
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 May 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link