Star Wars Anthology shit talk (Rogue One, Young Solo, TBD)

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No, it got run out of town!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 May 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

Lucas went to check the city out and got murdered it was a pretty sad story.

omar little, Friday, 18 May 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

Anyway, everything's cool:

http://www.materials-talks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/no-guns.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 May 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

So this week Disney announced that the next Star Wars Celebration convention is going to be in Chicago at McCormick Place rather than in Orlando or L.A./Anaheim as most of the previous ones have been. The Venn diagram of SW fans/MAGA chuds is now saying they won't go because CHICAGO IS A LAWLESS HELLHOLE. Like, compared to Florida.

Caught a glimpse of some comments on a local Maryland news story recently: "they're trying to turn Baltimore into the next Chicago!" When Fox gives them their talking points, they sure do stick to them.

how's life, Friday, 18 May 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link

So this week Disney announced that the next Star Wars Celebration convention is going to be in Chicago at McCormick Place rather than in Orlando or L.A./Anaheim as most of the previous ones have been. The Venn diagram of SW fans/MAGA chuds is now saying they won't go because CHICAGO IS A LAWLESS HELLHOLE. Like, compared to Florida.

I live in Orlando and a cosplayer and I were laughing at how ridiculous the concern is. also there's way more to do in Chicago than Borelando

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 May 2018 13:11 (five years ago) link

SW people should just cosplay and pretend lawless hellhole Chicago is Mos Eisley.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 May 2018 13:40 (five years ago) link

I've spent my fair share of time in Chicago and nothing there has ever worried me as much as crossing eight lanes of traffic in Orlando.

THERE IS NO PHIL D. THERE IS ONLY LIZ (Phil D.), Saturday, 19 May 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link

Orlando's traffic sitch is horrible at the moment too because of the I-4 expansion.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 May 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

Unbidden, my phone has just updated me, via CNN, with news that "Donald Glover is cool with Lando being pansexual in 'Solo: A Star Wars Story,'" should there be any doubt that this is the most boring of all possible worlds.

— 𝕿𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖊 𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖞 𝕯𝖆𝖞 (@NickPinkerton) May 22, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

I thought this movie came out already and that the reason I didn't know anyone talking about it was because it had flopped.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

Okay sooo Solo seen. Non-spoiler take: liked it a lot! Lightest tone for any SW movie yet but not without moments of grime (literally) and pathos. Very episodic in feel, if the whole idea of SW is growing out of serials, this really felt like a serial in full-length form, one mini-adventure after another. Couple of blindside moments especially towards the end -- it's been *really* interesting to see how the recent films have taken in material from the prequels and beyond -- and they do leave the door open for some future directions as direct followups if they want to go that route. Donald Glover is all that, but Ehrenreich did a good job of growing into the character. And of course Phoebe Waller-Bridge stole the show.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 May 2018 04:59 (five years ago) link

not without moments of grime (literally)

dizzee rascal cameo?

That is some tiresome bullshit. Can we please not?

El Tomboto, Friday, 25 May 2018 11:37 (five years ago) link

i liked it too. my biggest concern going in was alden's harrison and he holds his own just fine. he's not the character we meet in the mos eisley cantina but he inhabits the role with his own grinning charm. def looking more forward to solo 2 than i was solo 1

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 25 May 2018 12:09 (five years ago) link

So is this a series.
Enjoyed it but was trying to think where people fit in to later events I knew better. But it is a large area being covered.

Lweave it out of context but is that Darth Maul senior that pops up at one point. I'm not sure about where this fits in chronology.

Stevolende, Friday, 25 May 2018 12:14 (five years ago) link

my understanding is it's a trilogy, set between revenge of the sith and rogue 1

for stevo's eyes only (don't read if you haven't seen the movie and/or don't know much about the expanded universe): http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Maul

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 25 May 2018 12:25 (five years ago) link

Felt like watching a really good episode of Firefly, basically. Everyone puts in a good effort, and the comedy bits landed. Lacked the sense the original trilogy had that it was happening in some distant alien galaxy.

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 25 May 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link

needed more maeve imho

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 25 May 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

Can't wait to see the toxic side of SW fandom all die from aneurysms trying to reconcile "FUCK YEAH FINALLY A MOVIE ABOUT MANDALORIANS" with the fact that under the helmet he is already canonically Not White, so they can't rant about Disney SJWs ruining Star Wars.

Eliza D., Friday, 25 May 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

Han Solo Adventures by Brian Daley and the Adventures of Lando Calrissian by L. Neil Smith are the real reference points for this movie (both written and published prior to 1984), and the vibe in the film reflects them pretty well.

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link

they should bring back darth maul in something, he was the only cool part of ep1

global tetrahedron, Friday, 25 May 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link

Han Solo Adventures by Brian Daley and the Adventures of Lando Calrissian by L. Neil Smith are the real reference points for this movie (both written and published prior to 1984), and the vibe in the film reflects them pretty well.

Yup, fully agreed.

they should bring back darth maul in something, he was the only cool part of ep1

Question asked and answered a few posts back...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 May 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link

without getting spoilery i will say star wars x being way better than i was expecting has me stoked for xi, xii, xiii, and xiv (whatever order they're coming out in the next few years). just please don't cross streams with guardians of the galaxy reloading for xv and after. thor at most in the sense luke ends up going all odin to yoda's buddha

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link

I do love these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-I8bu07fwM

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 May 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link

I'm in a local "geek bar" right now watching Cavs-Celtics game 6, while another TV is showing the original Star Wars, and now I want a trilogy about that one weird tall Jawa.

Eliza D., Saturday, 26 May 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link

That would be preferable to the boba fett movie imo

El Tomboto, Saturday, 26 May 2018 01:32 (five years ago) link

hard not to wonder how LANDO would have fared by contrast

Disney-Lucasfilm’s “Solo: A Star Wars Story” is flying well below forecasts, heading for a Memorial Day weekend launch of around $110 million domestically, early estimates showed Friday.

The four-day figure is significantly under the studio’s recent estimates in the $130 million to $150 million range at 4,380 North American locations. First-day grosses are coming in at about $32 million — including $14.1 million from previews, which set a Memorial Day weekend record.

Should the holiday estimate hold for “Solo: A Star Wars Story,” it will raise questions about franchise fatigue and Disney’s strategy of opening the tentpole a mere five months after “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” debuted on Dec. 16. “The Last Jedi” debuted impressively with $220 million in North America, and went on to earn $620 million domestically and $1.3 billion worldwide.

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/box-office-solo-a-star-wars-story-memorial-day-weekend-1202822710/

Simon H., Saturday, 26 May 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link

We definitely need to know the whole backstory of a guy who has three lines of dialogue before comically falling into the Sarlacc pit.

jmm, Saturday, 26 May 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link

PHASMA can't be far behind that one

Simon H., Saturday, 26 May 2018 02:11 (five years ago) link

Right? The whole reason BF was ever cool in the first place was because of the mystique of this masked badass, and now we know so much about him, who fucking cares what he did before the OT? Grrrr.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 26 May 2018 02:14 (five years ago) link

I mean, I already watched that film, in amongst the rest of the prequels.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 26 May 2018 07:11 (five years ago) link

I'm in a local "geek bar" right now watching Cavs-Celtics game 6, while another TV is showing the original Star Wars, and now I want a trilogy about that one weird tall Jawa.

― Eliza D., Friday, May 25, 2018 8:28 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Do u mean Obi Wan Kenobi

I really like the acting, dialogue and especially the scenes (Old Lunch), Saturday, 26 May 2018 11:53 (five years ago) link

I honestly didn't know this had been released already. It'll possibly wind up being the first Star War that I don't see on the big screen (although, tbf, I was too young to have any memory of the first time I saw SW or Empire).

I really like the acting, dialogue and especially the scenes (Old Lunch), Saturday, 26 May 2018 12:10 (five years ago) link

I enjoyed 'Solo'. f.hazel OTM upthread. Good that it wasn't dragged down too much by all of the SW mythology. Harrelson and Waller-Bridge and Reichenbachfalls or whatever his name is were all great. Glover was fine but I'm not sure the writers knew what to do with Calrissian once they were on the Falcon ("Ach we got too many pilots on board here, better let some of them get shot").

Jeff W, Saturday, 26 May 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link

f. hazel otm about the tone, but story-wise the Crispin novels from the late 90s seemed to be as influential

I was kind of surprised that, after a Rogue One that had only minimal background references to the non-film Star Wars, this movie threw in a whole lot of non-movie material to somewhat mixed results

The reveal that Lando has a hobby of narrating his own adventures, pulp serial-style, was cute

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Saturday, 26 May 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

Teräs Käsi is inexplicably back in canon so the next movie can be a mixed martial arts tourney

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Saturday, 26 May 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

Are we not spoilering until Monday or so?

I spoilers a little, make a big “spoilers be here, matey” pirate banner and have at it

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Sunday, 27 May 2018 05:59 (five years ago) link

I'll sneak in my completely uninteresting, non-spoiler reaction: this was a fun movie, but Alden Ehrenreich doesn't seem very much like the Harrison Ford's Han Solo, nor like a guy who would become that Han Solo.

Also, I realized afterward that Ehrenreich previously played Hobie Doyle, the singing cowboy in the Coen Brothers' Hail Caesar! I think that was the role he was born to play (and I don't mean that as a diss, he was great in that movie).

JRN, Sunday, 27 May 2018 06:37 (five years ago) link

I thought the actors were fine. The pansexual Lando plot felt a little forced but it doesn't sink the movie. My only real gripe was that the movie looks exceptionally dark. Its visual palette is undynamic and the dark colours don't work well with 3D effects. Also, it was slightly out of focus in the movie theatre I saw it in, but I guess I can't blame the movie for that. But I got a slight headache from watching it.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 27 May 2018 07:32 (five years ago) link

"Howard, you've done it again!"

Enjoyed this, didn't find the reference box-ticking as groan-inducing as I feared - my biggest gripe being the wasting of Thandie plus L3 was great and deserved at least as much time as K2 got in Rogue One (maybe she did but felt underused to me).

nashwan, Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:43 (five years ago) link

Ehrenreich first appeared almost a decade ago in Coppola's Tetro and impressed the hell out of me. He also survived that Warren Beatty film.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:45 (five years ago) link

saw this, found it completely enjoyable. assuming q'ira (sp?) and ... her contact will show up again later maybe in another anthology movie?

curious what this film was like before they pulled ron howard in.

akm, Sunday, 27 May 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/star-wars/57999/star-wars-boba-fett-movie-coming-from-james-mangold

― groovypanda, 25. maj 2018 13:34 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That is some tiresome bullshit. Can we please not?

― El Tomboto, 25. maj 2018 13:37 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't worry, Mangold will inevitably be replaced by Ron Howard or JJ Abrams.

Frederik B, Sunday, 27 May 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link

Enjoyable in parts - mainly the train heist and lots of Chewie - but AE didn't once register as Han for me. DG, on the other hand, ran with the Lando role. Thought the L3 stuff shoehorned in ("Give me some space" - c'mon ) and tonally the entire thing jumped from feelink like a part of the Star Wars 'verse and other times like they ran out of visual/character ideas and went bland on purpose (Bettany's bad guy just really boring down to the character's look).

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

I really enjoyed the nostalgic/high adventure style of this.
When he and Kira get split up there’s a loose Ellis Island feel to the staging. And. Han’s war-time experience gives a light nod to an earlier style of warfare, fighting-in-place WW1 tactics (trench warfare etc).
That sense of time & place the makes it perfect that his first job is a train heist. Of course! I got a kick out of that, it just all felt right.
Vos’s ship’s deco vibe with the sleek streamlined interiors & round windows, etc, and the jazz party scene gives a sense of that with the all of the long gowns, satins & furs & metallics etc.

It’s not *specifically* that period, obv much more muddied than i’m making out - maybe they were going for mcm rather than 20’s but it just felt visually they were def going for a much more nostalgic look & that fit with the lighter tone of the whole movie for me.

Loved Glover, obv. And, I thought Alden wotsisname did a great job as Solo overall. It took me a little to warm up but he won me over. He’s not as gobsmackingly handsome or as charming as Ford but he inhabits all that behaviour really well to give the same feeling overall somehow? idk.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link

Thought this was bad. Actors were all fine but the story just blew goats

is this han as much of a wheedly, bitter, sarcastic man-child as Real Han was?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 27 May 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link

he has more optimism

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 27 May 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link


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