rolling explaining conservatism

it's all part of the GOP gameplan - if there isn't a massive deficit, create one, then cut domestic safety net programs to make up the difference

Correct, and it's a dumb plan. It won't work and we'll just wind up with a larger deficit.

i mean, i didn't think it was a good plan

as far as "it won't work", though, i guess that depends on what you mean. it won't work as in they will fail to cut domestic safety net programs? or it won't work as in it won't work politically and they will pay the price at the polls?

I think they'll never be able to cut the programs anywhere near as much as they'd like

whatever just keep government out of business

the liberals and the FBI owe the trump family an apology. lock her up!

I believe Donald Trump more than the FBI because Obama and Hillary and taxes and spending problem and terrorists and second amendment solutions and chinese hoaxery and the preverts and the communiss

I see no point in trying to reason with Trump voters

“President Trump has accomplished more positive things for this nation in less than two years than the last three have accomplished in twenty plus years. After the past eight years of a Muslim Marxist in the White House this nation could not survive another demwit in the White House. … Could you please list one thing the demwit party has done for the black people in America other than hand out government freebies for their continued votes?”

“America has a Constitution which guarantees equal rights for all and yet people like you hunger for change that puts people like me in the back of the bus. You seem egar to know what it would be like to be in the driver’s seat. You need look no further than Zimbabwe and South Africa. When people like you started driving the bus, the wheels came off. That’s what terrifies people like me.”

“We’re sick of paying welfare to so many of your brothers who don’t know what work and integrity mean. I hope you keep writing these articles and reminding my White Christian brothers that we did the right thing and we need to re elect Trump.”

https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/trump-supporters-speak/

The ORIGINAL identity politics

those comments are pearls

can somebody give me a crash course on what Republicans think Hillary Clinton lied about wrt Benghazi

Ranges from 'covered up failures in security' to 'hired Al Qaeda to kill them' AFAICT.

'Deliberately chose to not send in a rescue squad' is one I've seen bandied about as well.

Also "slept peacefully through it" despite her campaign shtick about late-night phone calls. And, y'know, time zones or something.

And "ignored a cable" of the thousands of cables that come to the state department.

look, the most important thing to remember is "Hillary lied, four Americans died". How you reach that conclusion is more of a personal matter.

hillary formed isis with two intentions: murdering ambassador christopher stephens and inspiring a michael bay movie

mission accomplished on both fronts, nothing but respect for my president

As long as she is free, all of us are jailed.* at least dsouza and arpaio are pardoned tho.

Feeling lately like an awareness of the extent to which one's mediocrity would be ill-served by a legitimately level playing field is a pretty essential factor.

But does he really think the Democrats are less corrupt than Trump and his cabinet?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/never-trumpers-leaving-republican-party-will-not-save-it/

go benzcowkski! watch smug libtards -- mr. putin will restore ukrainian / crimean sovereignty, and mr. trump will win the nobel. free paul manafort!

Upthread, I linked to some of the research on conservatism and the "behavioral immune system". Robert Sapolsky, author of Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst wrote a op-ed for CNN on the topic:

Be alarmed when a leader tries to make you think of humans as vermin

President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today, and what he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators with respect to the 12 people. I think that’s an incredible offer.

I used to think red baiting was a component of conservatism but I guess it's actually red 'bating. Homophones are tricky!

But I really do want to see the server. But I have confidence in both parties. I, I really believe that this will probably go on for a while. But I don’t think it can go on without finding out what happened to the server. What happened to the servers of the Pakistani gentleman that worked on the DNC? Where are those servers? They’re missing. Where are they? What happened to Hillary Clinton’s emails? Thirty-three thousand emails gone. Just gone. I think in Russia they wouldn’t be gone so easily. I think it’s a disgrace that we can’t get Hillary Clinton’s 33,000 emails.

She dumped bleach on them, now the servers are gone bro

i heard the first 4 minutes or so of Rush Lumbago's show today, mostly yelling "no evidence" and "no one ran my opinion on the news last night"

People should look at what the president said yesterday. He stands with intelligence, he accepts the finding, he knows that Russia meddled in the election. But let’s make very clear — did it impact a single vote? No.

dear mr. "rich" (white) president,

it's okay to keep insulting my intelligence (and the american intelligence community), so long as you keep triggering those mean and nasty libtards

yours,

deplorable nation

https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/07/incel-memes-like-millimeters-of-bone-and-virgin-vs-chad-mask-a-dangerous-and-toxic-culture.html

I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!

But Putin's denial was so strong!

It’s amazing. They are doing a number, just stick with us. Don’t believe what you see from these people in the fake news. Don’t believe that crap you see from these people, the fake news.

Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what’s happening.

“he has too many skeletons, he can’t have a public divorce.”
“the issue was he wanted her to WANT to have the group sex and got upset she didn’t”
“Has mom been tested for STDs?”

https://spectator.us/2018/07/has-mom-been-tested-for-stds-the-manaforts-home-life-and-why-it-matters/

everyone is corrupt and only looking out for themselves or lying to themselves about it. people only vote "democrat" to tell the popular republicans in their family to keep their distance at thanksgiving, christmas, and weddings, because they're failed, poor, and/or cheap

I must tell you that Paul Manafort’s a good man. He was with Ronald Reagan; he was with a lot of different people over the years, and I feel very sad about that. Doesn’t involve me but I still feel, you know, it’s a very sad thing that happened. This has nothing to do with Russian collusion. This started as Russian collusion; this has absolutely nothing to do . . . this is a witch hunt that ends in disgrace. But this has nothing to do what they started out, looking for Russians involved in our campaign. There were none. I feel very badly for Paul Manafort. Again, he worked for Bob Dole; he worked for Ronald Reagan. He worked for many, many people and . . . the way it ends up. It was not the original mission, believe me. It was something very much different. So, had nothing to do with Russian collusion. We continue the witch hunt.

it's hard to live in a world where smug centrists are always smarter than i am

"Remember this has nothing to do with Trump!"
"None of this has anything to do with Russia."
"Time to legalize tax evasion ... "
"This is still in no way a "vindication" of the Mueller witch hunt."
"Speaking of unpaid taxes, did Al Sharpton ever pay up, or does he, as a Liberal Democrat, just walk unscathed?"

"neutrollization"

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0967010618785102

why do right wing nut jobs always default to calling their enemies p3d0z?

Projection

mr. trump wrote the "op-ed" to show liberals how wrong they are about his intellect and inflexibility. on halloween he'll reveal he's really Q, and the liberals will be forced to admit he's a stable genius. #maga

mike tokes!

BOMBSHELL: Christine Blasey Ford’s brother worked with Peter Strzok's sister-in-law at Exelis Inc, a US Defense and Intelligence contractor.

•Jill Strzok is Peter Strzoks' sister-in-law
•Jill Strzok works with Thomas Blasey
•Thomas Blasey is Christine Ford's brother pic.twitter.com/KTFBM6TZxd

— Mike Tokes (@MikeTokes) September 29, 2018

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/

Trump’s only true skill is the con; his only fundamental belief is that the United States is the birthright of straight, white, Christian men, and his only real, authentic pleasure is in cruelty. It is that cruelty, and the delight it brings them, that binds his most ardent supporters to him, in shared scorn for those they hate and fear: immigrants, black voters, feminists, and treasonous white men who empathize with any of those who would steal their birthright. The president’s ability to execute that cruelty through word and deed makes them euphoric. It makes them feel good, it makes them feel proud, it makes them feel happy, it makes them feel united. And as long as he makes them feel that way, they will let him get away with anything, no matter what it costs them.

As much as it's a facile opinion, it does seem like owning the libs is the only coherent way to explain modern conservatism. Which is maddening, which is the point.

i'm not sure how into christianity trump is, but otherwise that's otm

white evangelicals sure are into him, so he reciprocates the love

for sure. also, he attended sermons by norman vincent peale as a youth and was certainly influenced by the kind of cult of solipsism that peale helped make into the true american religion

i'm actually surprised that connection hasn't been mined more in essays. "the power of positive thinking" definitely had a huge impact on trump and his refusal to acknowledge facts that don't fit his narrative. he's one of the few people other than his father that trump has openly cited as an influence

I think one thing that the election made crystal clear is that 'christian' is more of an identity than a religious belief for most americans. the facade that the right was a bunch of true believers was something they lost in 2016 that they'll never get back.

Me: 'I don't like Brussels sprouts so I will opt to not eat Brussels sprouts.'
A conservative: 'I don't like Brussels sprouts so there is nothing I won't sacrifice in the long-term pursuit of filling the Supreme Court with justices who will rule Brussels sprouts to be unconstitutional.'