WestWorld: ...Where nothing can possibly go worng!

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andrew m., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

NOOOOOOOOOOO

it's a leaf that the nomads chew (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

I just assumed BernBot was programmed at some point not to kill her, for whatever purposes.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

I had to listen to a guy mansplain this show to a woman at a camping trip this weekend and it was fucking painful. I just kept my mouth shut.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

Ford spared Elsie because while she knew too much, she wouldn't be able to stop him, and he didn't hate her guts the way he apparently did Theresa. And also you can't kill your audience surrogate?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

The song Madame Akane danced to was a little OTT.

incel clown posse (naus), Monday, 21 May 2018 03:09 (five years ago) link

what was that a cover of?

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 May 2018 03:10 (five years ago) link

https://youtu.be/__DEAK3AinM

incel clown posse (naus), Monday, 21 May 2018 03:34 (five years ago) link

oh jfc I feel so dumb

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 May 2018 03:40 (five years ago) link

OK so I stuck around for Shogun World and managed to disappoint myself because the show will never 100% become Bene Gesserit Maeve and the Seven Samurai.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 21 May 2018 05:54 (five years ago) link

near the beginning of the ep, when the bald security dude is back at HQ he looks down at a body - is that elsie? with chopped-off hair, holding a big knife?

just1n3, Monday, 21 May 2018 06:15 (five years ago) link

I don't know who that was but none of the recappers have picked up on it. Again, my money is on them not killing off the audience surrogate(s). Teddy is always never not doomed, but Felix and Elsie and Stubbs are our people.

Eve Batey @ previosuly.tv has the best hypothesis for how Maeve's jedi powers work.

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 May 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

also the link she includes to the page about the actual bluetongue virus (http://www.thecattlesite.com/diseaseinfo/245/bluetongue-btv/) validates that Teddy's suggestion was the right one all along and pops abernathy is just a sadist / firebug

Control Strategy

The strategy is to contain the outbreak and minimise trade impact by:

  • -*using a combination of quarantine and movement controls to prevent spread
  • -*treatments and husbandry procedures to control vectors, reduce transmission and protect susceptible animals
  • -*tracing and surveillance to determine the extent of virus and vector distribution
  • -*zoning to define infected and disease-free areas.
There is no justification for stamping out but some animals may need to be destroyed for welfare reasons. It is not possible to eradicate the bluetongue vectors.

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 May 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

shogun wolrd is 1000x better than westworld

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link

in other words, elvis telecom otm

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

the host-to-host network was pretty obviously the thing Maeve is using because she's a host communicating with/controlling other hosts?

also I have no idea why a virus that was 90% backstory and not infecting real animals needs delving into. it's a metaphor about killing the weak before they get sick and infect the strong. teddy's gotta get strong real fast or he's heading to the dustbin of history

shogun world having a lot of stories photocopied from westworld was a nice reverse on seven samurai/magnificent seven

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

teddy's gotta get strong real fast or he's heading to the dustbin of history

And he winds up that way anyway! Dolores’ idea of strength is completely sociopathic.

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 May 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

nah, he's still weak

she's talking about unrepentant killing any host she thinks won't be of use in battle, and Teddy's letting people go

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link

she might be sociopathic but she has a damn ethos

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link

I think Teddy's still just tryna find ways of advocating that the two of them just go off and do cuddly homesteadin' while Westworld burns

The floor is larva (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 May 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link

this show is so shapeless and boring. they have no idea where they're going or why, do they

goole, Monday, 21 May 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

they have no idea where they're going or why, do they

I have the opposite fear: that they DO know where they're going. They have it all mapped out. It will take years to get there. And it'll turn out to be some mind-gnawingly boring and/or nonsensical bullshit. Basically the Lost model.

The floor is larva (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 May 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link

If they were really just making it up as they went along, that would at least allow for the possibility of something fun and/or interesting happening by sheer accident.

The floor is larva (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 May 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

aren't they going ... west

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link

the idea that there are a bunch of robots who are now aware of their state, but still only have the narrow language and characterological reactions of their stereotypical programming to apprehend it, is really interesting! the show seems only barely aware that's what it's about or something.

goole, Monday, 21 May 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

they should make Bernard go back to glitching and do a full-on Michael Crichton story crossover: he becomes The Terminal Man and goes into occasional violent fugues

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 21 May 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link

They set the stuff with Maeve in the ep where Bernard uses a host to locate Abernathy, so I thought something like this might be coming.

just1n3, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link

mh did you watch the last episode? Or are you rob bricken?

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

I don’t get hating on this show for being too much like Lost or for “not going anywhere” - if you don’t care about the characters just say so, otherwise you’re just saying this television is like television like some kind of Goldilocks who has no business in a house for bears

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 May 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link

Sad thing is that it is so rare for science fiction on TV to get a decent budget and chance to do something different, you want it to be good but thing is that many probably know a handful of science fiction books/comics that would be better than what you got dealt.

I fell asleep late on the long first episode and saw all of season 1. Westworld was mostly mediocre and bit too soap opera. The only episode that I thought held up on it's own as a good tv show was the one when Maeve realized she wasn't crazy and figured out what the drawings meant.

Don't think Westworld has any hold on Lost, that show had quite a few good episodes that were very well done, it's just that the overall arc came up a bit flat. The whole buildup on the hatch was really great.

Westworld probably would have worked better as a long movie. There just is not enough really there to care about figuring out the secrets.

earlnash, Monday, 21 May 2018 23:33 (five years ago) link

I guess what I meant to get at is that the violent fugues need fucking

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 01:26 (five years ago) link

Maeve not being able to use English commands on Japanese-speaking hosts might also explain how & why the Ghost Nation seem immune to the psychopath bug that’s spreading over the mesh network, and are still protecting guests (albeit by rounding them up, presumably as their storyline demands)

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link

man I hate teddy. I can't wait until he's dead. that story line is so goddamned boring. More Maeve killing things and people and robots.

akm, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

didn't even occur to me that the ghost nation was protecting guests.

akm, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

Why were they interested in Sizemore?

imagine flagons (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link

I don’t get hating on this show for being too much like Lost or for “not going anywhere” - if you don’t care about the characters just say so

I'll say it. I think the entire Dolores storyline including her, Teddy, and whatever goddamn robo-consciousness the show is trying to portray is 100% inert junk with zero stakes at all.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link

there are no stakes anywhere in this thing. just this happens then this happens then oh hey actually [chappellepac voice] I wrote this shit a long time ago then some other stuff DO YOU SEE

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 02:57 (five years ago) link

Why were they interested in Sizemore?


To keep him out of trouble?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 03:08 (five years ago) link

This show has weirdly turned into hand tremor porn.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link

that thought led me to the idea of "tremors porn" and there's no turning back

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 May 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

it dawned on me that having dolores/maeve acting out the realization of ford's/arnold's plans is some really ham-fisted scripting when it comes to, uh, visual cues

mh, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link

The last two weeks have been fun. Who knew that turning Teddy into a cold motherfucker would be such a key ingredient? (a: Dolores)

I am not sure how I feel about Ford being Bernard's Obi-Wan after he's now been killed TWICE.

Was it really necessary for elon musk's ex-girlfriend to spend that much time monologuing at the spec ops dude who stole my haircut before pulling the pin on his grenade?

Hale and Stubbs still being alive is ridiculous.

RIP MIB, a mean guy who almost learned something.

El Tomboto, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link

Fornoldard

El Tomboto, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link

The song Madame Akane danced to was a little OTT.

― incel clown posse (naus), Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:09 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what was that a cover of?

― El Tomboto, Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:10 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://youtu.be/__DEAK3AinM

― incel clown posse (naus), Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:34 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not watching this season but I made a club remix of that ;)

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

elon musk's ex-girlfriend

who with the what now?

that monologue was ridiculously ott though, when it was painfully obvious she was there to blow up the room

mh, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link

after the reveal that there's a virtual westworld that ford's hiding out in, I spent a week wandering around mumbling "how many westworlds deep are we right now, anyway?"

I'd be actually angry if they show that the events we've seen are in a virtual westworld and we've only had a couple real world scenes, but again, one of the Nolans

mh, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

RIP MIB, a mean guy who almost learned something.

we sure he's dead? i'm thinking there's gonna be a daughter ex machina and he'll pull through

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link

there's gonna be a scene of her putting on his hat, lol

mh, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link

yeah i don't think he's dead, last shot of him he was alive (barely).

also I don't know what is happening on this show any more.

akm, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link

the Bernard time jumps are purposefully obtuse, and now they're teasing us with them in an attempt to get the audience to question how many Bernards there are, imo

mh, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link


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