Yanny or Laurel

The recording that crüt linked on the other thread definitely sounds like "Laurel". If this was text-to-speech synthesis as Tombot says, that would explain it. I don't hear actual "l" sounds in the file that we are asked to vote on. xps

I do hear a lot of lower-mid muddiness/resonance and noise and I can totally hear the ghost of 'Laurel' in there but I still feel like I'm doing the work to fill it in.

I predict that Yanny will be the hot new baby name of 2018

so psyched about this forthcoming Yanni/Laurel Halo collab

*the

it was for the dress, kinda, but this is about digital speech synthesis, vocoding and recording artifacts more than it is about perception imo

the dress thing was about the color temperature & brightness settings that people had on their monitors so it's really not that interesting by this metric!

I thought it was also about the way some people perceived the overall "color temperature" / gamma of the photograph itself which was backlit by glaring sun

But surely it is about perception? I've played exactly the same clip at the same level over the same headphones and heard it go Y>L>Y>L>Y. And when I hear Y I cannot conceive of it sounding like L, and vice versa.

For someone who has spent a fair amount of his professional life trying to decipher what people are saying for the purposes of transcription, this is at least faintly interesting. Usually I associate the challenges with decoding speech with isolating the audio and trying to avoid contextual cues; here's an example of something in isolation, with no contextual cues, and it keeps flipping on me.

ok fine it's interesting

i hear Laurel.

the real mystery is why the fuck anyone would ever say "Yanny"

So I said this elsewhere but I usually keep the volume down when I listen on headphones because even mild hearing loss or tinnitus terrify me. I just turned up the volume to about 5 on my interface and now I hear "Laurel" clear as day.

the actual stuff on perception that they get people talking about is interesting

it was for the dress, kinda, but this is about digital speech synthesis, vocoding and recording artifacts more than it is about perception imo - and that's what I find not interesting at all in fact the exact opposite, anti-interesting, if interesting had a mustache and was chaotic evil aaaaaaarrrrrrrrgh.

― El Tomboto

I still find this very interesting! I've been very very slowly entering into the world of (lo-fi) mixing/production over the last few years and this stuff is a good entry-level example of how things can sound very different with only slight outside changes. Also I love auditory illusion shit like Shepard tones etc. I'm not necessarily saying YOU should find it interesting, I just it's unfair to dismiss it all as 'trash'.

*I just think

Yeah, Tombot is describing a phenomenon that is fascinating and crucial to me and then saying it's the opposite of interesting. (The explanation that it's a lo-fi recording is more believable to me than the explanation that it's text-to-speech synthesis, though.)

i think it's probably a little bit of both; i didn't even consider that it was text-to-speech which shows you how untrained my ear is!

All I know is my social media is suddenly a lot more disconcerting.

I guess what is changing is the ambient noise level around me (open-plan office), and I have no control over that. So maybe that's having an effect. Back to Laurel for now!

I turned my speakers up and now I hear "Laurel" on those too.

Listened on headphones, heard "Laurel" clear as day, wondered why this was even a question.

Listened on computer speakers, hear "Yanny" clear as day, wondered why this was even a question.

the text-to-speech aspect is where I think the high pitch comes from, which is inaudible in the original file and original sample rate, but when downsampled it drops into audible range and subsumes the "dark l" under this upper midrange "eea" sound

humans do not make secret >22khz noises when they pronounce velarized alveolar lateral approximants, at least as far as I understand things

in the car : yanny.
on laptop just now : laurel

my favorite tts artifact was when Microsoft Sam made a weird whooshing sound when you tried to make it say 'soy'

haven't tried it in ages but i assume it s been fixed by now

There's also an element of this that is about perception, though. Once I heard "Laurel", I could still hear it that way even when I turned the volume down again.

where is option ‘hen fap’

Played this in OUTER SPACE where everyone could hear Yanny.

https://www.nerdreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/23569786-Case-closed-grunge-red-stamp-Stock-Photo.jpg

I'm still baffled that people cannot hear Laurel, when it sounds completely clear and like a normal voice saying that name. Meanwhile Yanny just sounds like some kind of faint whispering that could easily be just noise or random sound artifacts that vaguely resemble speech.

Yeah, like a weird noise your brain makes up when you're falling asleep.

i know it's cool not to care about this, but i do get worried that i cannot make it into "yanny" or conceive of making it into a "yanny." i sorta just wanna loop it and listen til if finally yann-ify it.

I predict that Yanny will be the hot new baby name of 2018

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:16 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok lol

The experience of Tarfumes is close to mine.

To do a serious analysis one would also need to cross-reference every respondent with age and listening environment.

Like, there are those frequency things only audible to certain age ranges like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mosquito

Put on some bass-y music and then listen to it again?

xp to hunt3r

https://ring.cdandlp.com/themusiccollector/photo_grande/114965794.jpg

I see Laurel Live at the Acropolis

have listened on phone speakers and with headphones and through an amp while twiddling the bass and treble and have yet to hear anything that sounds remotely like laurel.

I'm still baffled that people cannot hear Laurel, when it sounds completely clear and like a normal voice saying that name. Meanwhile Yanny just sounds like some kind of faint whispering that could easily be just noise or random sound artifacts that vaguely resemble speech.

When I heard it as "yanny", it didn't sound very much like a normal human voice tbc. I don't think anyone has said otherwise.

yanny

I can't turn my laurel into a yanny

*sighs*

*double-checks search rankings*

*sighs again*

📈 We have a new top lookup! https://t.co/aYHnerbrUS

— Merriam-Webster (@MerriamWebster) May 16, 2018

lol

ok i clicked on a link it's a straight yanny for me and i'm convinced it's a different recording, the voice is higher and different. lol non bass-y music needed. ~success~ i guess.

I tried playing neil young while listening to it, now I just have him singing about yanny canyon stuck in my head

hey y'all know what my life is like now, i mishear like 20% of words for some reason. at least in english i can kinda fill in the context clues but in languages i'm not fluent i am worthless. everyone i know is like "i can understand frnech but i can't speak it" and i'm like HOW. I CAN ONLY SPEAK IT

It was solidly Laurel for me all afternoon. Now the office is 80% empty and quiet, Yanny is back in town. (I've been checking the same MP3 every 20min or so all day).

Yanny is back in town

Would love to hear the Thin Lizzy version of this.

oh man rufus just totally heard yanny! i don't get it at all....

like, it was totally immediate for him too. no question.

I was very surprised my son couldn't hear Laurel.

And now Laurel. What a day.

kill me

I was just wondering the other day when somebody was going to get around to using the whimsical 'ukes and handclaps' cute animal video music in a sinister context.

ok fine it's interesting

― El Tomboto, Wednesday, May 16, 2018 11:25 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I love this

saw the white house video about this and wanted to jump into the mississippi. but i just muted the terms on twitter instead

on my computer "Yanny" or actually "Yammi" whether through internal speakers or good headphones. Nothing at all like "Laurel"

that whitehouse video almost makes me believe that this whole thing was manufactured to divert attention away from gaza. at the very least, it's got me questioning why trump is appearing in a comedy sketch when he should be focusing on a crisis that his actions stoked the coals of

https://i.imgur.com/jb9ikhW.jpg

My kids just introduced me to the gif of electricity pylons playing jump-rope. Which is silent. But some "hear" a thud each time the pylon hits the ground.

this is what gets me to leave ilx. thanks

I don't get why this stuff makes so many people IA. It's harmless and easily ignored.

I thought a lot about why it made me so mad and I think it’s because I’ve spent too much time playing speech samples through filters so I’m really inured to the phenomenon in question - I can actually do a really good “beatbox” of it unplugged - so when everyone was like “wow I can hear both” my jaded mind couldn’t help itself. OF COURSE YOU FUCKING CAN IT’S JUST ABOUT WHICH FREQUENCIES ARE EMPHASIZED AND HOW BRAINS WORK, GAAAWWWWD.

Blame Korg

(also probably the name of some character in the wookieepedia)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Fuck you

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Good comeback, System.

Lulz

Blame Korg

― El Tomboto, Friday, 18 May 2018 23:57 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(also probably the name of some character in the wookieepedia)

― El Tomboto, Friday, 18 May 2018 23:58 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's in thor: ragnarok actually

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic4.uk.businessinsider.com%2Fimage%2F59fc89555b026004411baabb-1190-625%2Fhow-this-lesser-known-marvel-character-became-a-scene-stealer-in-thor-ragnarok.jpg&f=1

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, May 18, 2018 8:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Fuck you
― El Tomboto, Saturday, May 19, 2018 12:42 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Saturday, May 19, 2018 8:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Good comeback, System.
― Now I know my ABCs. Next time won't you scream at me? (Old Lunch), Saturday, May 19, 2018 8:08 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not again :-/

"yes, that sounds like an excellent idea/yes, that's a f*cking excellent idea"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dQAlywMvCQ

I like that one since I can easily hear either option.

I hear "guinea pig".

I unapologetically love this stupid stuff

lol it's whichever you want to hear