What did they think it would sound like w/ Goodrich at the helm? It's warm and bubbly and years on I find it an easier listen than BTC
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 01:35 (ten hours ago)
I've grown to love TT over the years. BTC is a bit of a slog nowadays.
― well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 12:01 (five years ago) link
He's a good interview (doing them with everyone for this record), but I am not sure I will like the new album
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 13:17 (five years ago) link
unless you count westing as the debut then sparkle hard is one "more" album than pavement ever did. go jicks
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
Think it’s technically his 7th album with the Jicks (counting his first, in 2001 – Malk wanted to credit the band on it, but Matador said no). Pavement was around 10 years, and he’s spent 17 years with the Jicks so far... time flies.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link
Sparkle Hard ranks with the first three Jicks LPs for me.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link
So Malkmus recorded another album that Matador won't put out yet:
Malkmus, wearing a trucker’s hat and T-shirt, brought a laptop, picked up a microphone and sang an album’s worth of the songs he planned to release as his next record.
“I was blown away,” said Steve Doughton, who helped organize the event meant to kick off PICA’s exhibition of his 1997 art film, “DELTA.” “The album is phenomenal.”
Malkmus had created the music in his basement with Pro Tools, Ableton software and keyboards. It felt good to experiment, to move away from the guitar-driven songs that dominated his catalogue. Then he dropped the files to Matador Records. It had been more than three years since the last Malkmus record. His longtime label wasn’t thrilled to get a keyboard-based set driven by drum pads.
“They didn’t want to put it out,” said Malkmus. “Or they thought it was dumb to put it out first because it was a head-scratcher. Maybe some of my more traditional fans that know Pavement would scratch their heads.”
...This is the first time Matador rejected anything from Malkmus. But instead of rage, the label’s dis actually inspired a name for his then-untitled electronic album: “Groove Denied.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/stephen-malkmus-had-his-groove-denied-he-was-upset-for-about-five-minutes/2018/05/17/384e7994-57a2-11e8-858f-12becb4d6067_story.html?utm_term=.e79f43ed86aa
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link
Last year, in the midst of the “Groove Denied” dilemma, Lombardi and Matador co-president Gerard Cosloy flew out to see Malkmus to explain why they thought the electronic album would be wrong right now. Lombardi remembers Malkmus answering the door.
“Am I dropped?” he asked.
lol
― mizzell, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link
― well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, May 16, 2018 7:01 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
these are some wild bad opinions
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link
lol at "Groove Denied" ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link
malk's publicist is really earning their pay for this album, feel like i see stuff about it absolutely everywhere
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link
he says in that interview he wants to give the press what they want doing promotion this time and get more attention than usual, seems to be working so far
curious about Groove Denied though i have no idea if it'll be any good
― ufo, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
Last month, during a Malkmus appearance at New York City’s Town Hall for public radio’s “Live From Here,” host Chris Thile gushed about one of his favorite rhymes, of “Tennyson” with “venison” in the 2011 song “Lariat.”“Where did it come from?” Thile pressed.“Well, Tennyson just comes to my mind,” Malkmus said, without a pause. “I think I like tennis a lot. I like sons. I like daughters. And then Venice. I like the town of Venice a lot. It’s both in Los Angeles and Italy. And I also love the sun. Who doesn’t? Today was a beautiful, sunny day!”
“Where did it come from?” Thile pressed.
“Well, Tennyson just comes to my mind,” Malkmus said, without a pause. “I think I like tennis a lot. I like sons. I like daughters. And then Venice. I like the town of Venice a lot. It’s both in Los Angeles and Italy. And I also love the sun. Who doesn’t? Today was a beautiful, sunny day!”
Good snappy answer to a stupid question. Who asks a songwriter that – “where did that rhyme come from?”
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link
Id rather hear groove denied than another jicks album
― calstars, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link
I'm reasonably certain I won't like Lariat but his answer there is lol because it's just more wordplay/misdirection
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link
Lariat (and video) is great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYC5JASqWnI
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link
Four thoughts:
1. Lariat is my favorite Jicks song in recent memory.
2. Thile's question isn't *that* dumb. It's not complex, but it's fine for one celebrity asking another celebrity something in a public setting, imo.
3.
Last year, in the midst of the “Groove Denied” dilemma, Lombardi and Matador co-president Gerard Cosloy flew out to see Malkmus to explain why they thought the electronic album would be wrong right now. Lombardi remembers Malkmus answering the door.“Am I dropped?” he asked.
This is amazing.
4.
Id rather hear groove denied than another jicks album― calstars, Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:37 AM (two hours ago)
― calstars, Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:37 AM (two hours ago)
yeah, this is about where I'm at.
― alpine static, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link
seems like a safe-ish guess that Groove Denied sounds something like what's at the beginning of this video, doesn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKpi9cAmnfo
― alpine static, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link
if it is, it just confirms that i'd be more interested to hear it than new Jixx. (though i also would assume that it will wear out its welcome quickly.)
― alpine static, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link
Oh wait – Chris Thile is the guy from Nickel Creek, who did that great Pavement cover! I thought he was a radio host or something. Yeah I agree it’s different, one songwriter to another.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link
that show was the new prairie home companion but then got re-titled after the keillor scandal
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
pretend the crowd is germany
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link
"kite" (welcome to the top / well i thought so / bring it to an end without hassle / no disaster, i guarantee / do do do do do do)
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
Sign me up for the SM/ Berman tour in ‘28. Until then zzz
― calstars, Friday, 18 May 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link
When they play self ignition, that’s the joint
― calstars, Friday, 18 May 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bISQXWdgRzQ
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 18 May 2018 01:13 (five years ago) link
Prime-time Berman is still so, so good
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 18 May 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link
Thank you Ray
― calstars, Friday, 18 May 2018 01:25 (five years ago) link
I live to serve
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 18 May 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link
Mirror Traffic is better than any of the other albums after Pig Lib, right?
― alpine static, Friday, 18 May 2018 02:40 (five years ago) link
I always wondered if this song was about mr godrich but not sure if the chronology works out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTqiKgAux-k
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link
This seems to be a newly posted promo film thing (of course, the album’s out today):
https://youtu.be/MSFTlFEQXW4
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link
― alpine static, Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:40 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I would agree but Face The Truth exists, and every time I revisit it it's better than I'd remembered it being.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link
Can we talk more about the press/promotional push this thing is getting?
I'm sure there have been bigger/more expensive ones for pop stars and arcade fires or whatever ... but this record? For Malkmus? At this time? This is crazy.
I wonder why. Why this record, why now?
Does Matador think the time is ripe for appreciating an indie rock icon?
Do they just think this record deserves way more ears than, like, Jagbags got? (They'd be right.)
Does S.M. have two girls to put through college in a few years and so he's willing to play the game?
I'm just very, very curious about the roots of this.
I get that you put out a record and you promote it, especially one of your best-known artists. But this has been something else. Dude must've spent all winter doing interviews.
― alpine static, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link
He talks about it in that WaPo interview -- wanting to make more noise with this one, make more $$, play bigger venues, etc. Don't know if the add'l press will deliver that goal.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link
Also, reading between the lines a bit, my guess is he told Matador something like -- "OK, we'll hold off on the electronic album and release the rock LP first, if that's what you think is the way to go, but then you need to really try to move the needle on this one...".
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link
digging sparkle hard so far!
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link
i want to hear the synth record
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link
maybe that castle he bought in PDX costs a lot to heat
― alpine static, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link
I wonder how "well" his albums generally sell... that article said that each Jicks release has done worse than the one before it; and the last one (Jagbags) sold 21,000 copies. I have no idea where that ranks in the indie world, compared to Parquet Courts albums or whatever.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link
Are any of his "peers" (indie folx from the '90s) still trying to move units in any significant way? Seems they've mostly settled into niches or gotten into other things.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
I mean I think that's what's so striking about this push, is that he seemed to (rather happily) settle into his niche years and years ago.
― alpine static, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
i think all the old-timers just rely on superfans to keep them going. i doubt most people who own pavement records buy the new stuff. people like robert pollard and malkmus become boutique businesses. like candle shops.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
as far as I can tell, Malkmus is one of the few 90s guys left that has never licensed anything anywhere. The closest he came was doing the sdtk for that Will Arnett show, which is obviously different. So that's one common income stream for people nowadays that he doesn't have.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
alpine -- my guess is that the expense of kids does figure into it (as you said). His wife's an artist, he's an indie rocker... I'm sure any increase in cashflow helps.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link
his stop here in the cities sold out very quickly, which i didn't expect since i've seen him numerous times and the shows were only moderately attended
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 18 May 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link
lots of old indie people tour a ton. and make their money for the year. they are the new tom rush and eric andersons of the world. its not usually about some new hot album for most of them. though they will tour behind albums. my neighbor lou barlow tours like a crazy person! solo and dino and sebaloo...
― scott seward, Friday, 18 May 2018 17:01 (five years ago) link
malkmus has never really fallen into the standard narratives of a solo career ... the back to basics record, the divorce/sober record, the record with a big name producer, the experimental record (maybe "Groove Denied" will fill that last role). and he's never crashed and burned personally (as far as I know) so there's not some narrative to latch onto there. I don't know, it's kind of admirable in a weird way. he's a musician!
― tylerw, Friday, 18 May 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
yeah, they just do what they do. it's what they do.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 May 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
a true corporate player, he made sure to name drop two other artists on matador during that talk house thing, car seat headrest and Kurt vile
― calstars, Friday, 18 May 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
He probably gets promo copies of all Matador stuff.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 18 May 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link