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I dig the “Ecco” graphic and its presumed reference to eccojams

Ecco harvest excess bondage

I have a bad feeling about this one, and his trajectory as an artist... Nevertheless looking forward to hearing it soon.

― flappy bird, Tuesday, May 15, 2018 10:06 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Come on Flappy you can't just drop this and not say *why* you feel bad about his "trajectory" as an artist.. Why the bad hunch?

Artwork is very special.

I think I said some stuff upthread. Just doesn't seem conceptually interesting or emotionally engaging - the singles, at least. Like I've said before the beautiful thing about Replica and R Plus Seven are that they are brilliant conceptually/intellectually AND the music is utterly original and moving. Garden of Delete was a cool concept but it's not an enjoyable listen for me. This, I just don't know what to make of. Sounds like boring pop music. Definitely not going to ditch him though, and I can't wait to hear the record. I just... it's an awful thing when an artist you love and whose work you find compelling and exciting in ways that are ineffable or very difficult to describe... starts making work that's almost a parody or cliche take on what they've done before...

Sounds like boring pop music.

what up it's your boy post malone jammin out to the only station that's bumpin the latest 0pn noise dirge, mix 96.1

more like it sounds like NIN. or NIN-adjacent. which is pop adjacent. or pop on the spectrum. sort of

HOMIE WHAT THE FUCK

sorry that was too loud

homie, what the fuck

Like I've said before the beautiful thing about Replica and R Plus Seven are that they are brilliant conceptually/intellectually AND the music is utterly original and moving. Garden of Delete was a cool concept but it's not an enjoyable listen for me. This, I just don't know what to make of. Sounds like boring pop music.

I'd say Replica and R+7 are 'warmer' album, and Garden of Delete suddenly turned out to be a lot cooler. If that is something akin to what you mean by the music being moving next to conceptual, I can see that. I'm going to have to draw a line at 'sounds like boring pop music' though, and (quietly) echo m bison ;)

it's pop on the spectrum. like "My Girls," or "Ping Pong."

I'd say Replica and R+7 are 'warmer' album, and Garden of Delete suddenly turned out to be a lot cooler. If that is something akin to what you mean by the music being moving next to conceptual, I can see that.

I agree that Replica & R+7 are 'warmer' compared to GOD but that's not what I meant. It's so rare to have a musician that is making progressive, intellectually compelling work that can be mulled over and discussed at length that is also just beautiful music, thesis aside. With those two records Lopatin conveyed some really disturbing stuff about consumerism, technology, and nostalgia where the conceptual underpinnings reinforced the music and vice versa.

i'll just echo "homie, what the fuck" cuz i'm not hearing NIN or pop (outside of the use of autotune) in that Black Snow single at all

i'll listen again

i mean there are lyrics and a melody, but there's way more there pushing against a pop-sensibility than embracing it. parts of it make my physically uncomfortable.

or maybe it shouldn't be a embrace/repulse binary, i guess it's fucking with it. but the end result isn't exactly "poppy".

btw I have nothing against pop or pop on the spectrum or whatever, I just didn't expect to be bored by a new OPN project. because Replica and R+7 are so singular and strange and truly otherworldly. but I will listen again

dang i'll have to try with R+7 again. a couple of tracks aside, i found it about as warm and welcoming as Garden of Delete. just couldn't get into it. HUGE fan of Replica, though.

I’m an opn neophyte, but Garden captures me in a way his earlier stuff doesn’t, with the exception of Ourobourous of course

I listened to R+7 the other day for the first time in a while and it hit me in a really different way. A lot of what felt cold and alien initially did feel warmer and more... organic? I can get that.

Rifts and GOD are the only two that grabbed me

So based on "Black Snow", the new album is going to be less fragmented and more coherent and linearly progressive pieces? If he feels like he's exhausted the deconstruction approach, by all means let him try and fit his compositions in a new context. Doesn't have to be pop music, however I do agree that the single wouldn't be totally out of place in certain current continuums.

https://soundcloud.com/jasondonervan/sets/oneohtrix-point-never-age-of-preview-samples

pretty good interview here

http://thequietus.com/articles/24645-oneohtrix-point-never-age-of-interview

Essentially Google describe the DeepDream algorithms as them assigning a machine the task of learning what a workout weight looked like. It studies every picture of weights it could, but it came back with an error - it created the image of a weight, but along with it was a white arm attached to it, because all of the images of weights on the internet have white arms lifting them. It occurred to me that this is fundamentally a great way to teach ourselves that white history is fucked up.

Thanks F
Love the 2001 connection

anyone see the show last night?

Good interview, love the idea of EccoJams being about 'float[ing] listlessly in this digital ether just wanting to express things, but being unable to.'

I'm hearing him live in a couple of weeks :)

any new yorkers want a couple free tix to the Thursday show?

aaaaaah i just bought one off stubhub like 10 minutes ago. psyched tho!

tickets allocated

Age Of is out in the wild. Haven't investigated yet.

i don't really know what to make of it yet except that it's beautiful and grotesque in equal measure, pushed to more of an extreme than he usually does

show last night was great. eli keszler, kelly moran, gatekeeper dude, prurient, kelsey lu. the dancers from the "black snow" video, mysterious inflating garbage bag things, sculptures suspended from the ceiling as a robot voice said scary stuff, video projections very much in keeping with the whole vibe.

the new stuff sounded great in context, looking forward to listening again. a lot of the vocal stuff was very good, surprisingly.

the album cover's adult swim vibe kinda turned me off but "black snow" really grew on me and after last night i am on board with what this dude is doing.

flappy wuz right, there are some near straight up pop songs on here.

Went to that show last night. To me its like the idm version of The Wall. The feelings I got from it were Games go to the 90's with some classic OPN elements thrown in. There were moments for me that called back to Enigma, heard some moments of MBV guitars, Chris de Burgh-y beats. Also, a lot of those ballads were very Bon Iver-ish jams. I dug it tough, look forward to hearing the recorded versions. The Prurient inflating garbage bag stuff was a highlight.

on first listen this is a v. good album and maybe the most emotionally resonant thing he's done since Replica.

jealous of everyone seeing these Myriad shows

Gman sellin it. Sounds boss

a friend of mine went to the show last night too and he hated it. said Lopatin has diluted basically everything that made his work resonant and interesting, also that he'd never seen a drummer play so much and add so little. FWIW

flappy’s friend otm

and the 7pm armory show didn’t even get the inflatable sandworms

Regardless of how I'll feel about this when I eventually hear it, these descriptions you guys are dropping are some kind of ridiculous. Looking forward to this one.

Haven’t seen the show but the album is legit great. Don’t get why people want a sequel to their favorite OPN album. His entire thing is Moving On.

He’s still on fire.

The little accents of Prurient on this are so good.

Yeah moments of maybe getting perilously close to pomposity or overblowness but ... idk, it ruled. it was like a replicant Peter Gabriel or something. way too pretty at times (purposefully of course) but backgrounded by a sort of deep space infinite coldness

did I mention show ended w/ a bill fay cover? that was wonderful

the never ending happening

Haven’t seen the show but the album is legit great. Don’t get why people want a sequel to their favorite OPN album. His entire thing is Moving On.

He’s still on fire.

― two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916), Saturday, May 26, 2018 4:00 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't and I doubt my friend does either, just not digging it. But I still haven't heard the album and hope to be surprised.

Black Snow sounds like garbage

People who have seen the Myriad live show: Is it music from Age Of? Mix of new and old? Something else? I'm reviewing it, so would love to know just a tiny bit of what to expect.

from what I've heard it's the whole new album + old music as an encore

myriad is exactly as ufo said — reordered/extended age of, two older tunes as an encore.

the show as a presentation was not really engaging, i bet soundboard recording sounds fantastic.

i tried sequencing age of the way it was played live, and i think it flows better:

prologue:
age of

ecco:
still stuff
raycats

harvest:
toys 2
babylon
manifold

excess:
we'll take it
the station
myriad.industries (in lieu of live track titled love in the time of lexapro)

bondage:
warning
same
black snow
last known image

epilogue:
never ending happening (sequencing the bill fay original works perfectly)

Anohni shines

Black Snow sounds like garbage

I don’t know where that Anohni slice came from but tru too