The Jordan Peterson Thread

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He was on Start the Week on Monday. Steeling myself to listen. Lawrence Wright was also on; hoping he might provide some resistance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b2gsct

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

A pretty good book review/excoriation from a conservative Catholic professor:

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/book-review-jordan-petersons-12-rules-for-life-78542

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link

so this dude's book is like The Secret for people who claim everything they do is governed by "logic," right?

mh, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

And who grab terminology from Heidegger

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

ideotv did a podcast on 12 rules
http://www.idontevenownatelevision.com/2018/05/13/106-12-rules-for-life-an-antidote-to-chaos/

adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

A pretty good book review/excoriation from a conservative Catholic professor:

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/book-review-jordan-petersons-12-rules-for-life-78542

― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:13 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is beautiful

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

LOL he's on cheesy Channel 5 discussion show The Wright Stuff this morning - sometime home to such intellectual heavyweights as Christopher Biggins, Hardeep Singh Kohli and Anne Diamond. Prof. Peterson is occupying the guest's chair, more commonly reserved for Made In Chelsea stars plugging exercise books or dimwitted Aussie soap actors touting for work in the UK. Hard for the Professor to add much gravitas to a show when he has to sit alongside comedy Tory MP, Michael Fabricant.

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 09:07 (five years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0y_xnFVCN/

adam the (abanana), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link

Oh jesus.

how's life, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

why is he dressed like a steampunk guy who forgot his goggles

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

When in Rome...

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

just when i was confident i couldn’t think less of either peterson or mumford and sons...

This guy’s a ducking moron. Vice interview made it clear he’s propped himself up as some kind of disenfranchised activist - meanwhile he pulls 30 K a month. He’s making arguments out of thin air & it’s probably cuz his wallets shining. Just another deepak chopra

Incline/decline (Ross), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link

Sorry deep pockets chopra.

Incline/decline (Ross), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

meanwhile he pulls 30 K a month

Think it's double this by now?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

'terrible people having their photo taken with Jordan Peterson' could almost be its own thread

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdbmYCPV4AARLJG.jpg

soref, Friday, 18 May 2018 09:36 (five years ago) link

kermit meets muppets: in which we are shown weirdos & jordan peterson

I accidentally watched one of this guy's youtube videos y/day when I followed a link called sth like "how to stop procrastinating" (hah)

the short version is that I did not learn how to stop procrastinating and he had some (prob deservedly) harsh words for chronic procrastinators esp when they turn into middle-aged fuckups with no self-control and no honesty with themselves about the extent of their fucking up (hi there, it me etc) so I felt bad about myself and then I realised that I was watching a Jordan Peterson video and that yes, it was that Jordan Peterson

so now I am p. excited to get my revenge by listening to an hour-long podcast about what a blowhard he is as some extra sweet, sweet procrastination. thanks!

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 18 May 2018 09:49 (five years ago) link

YouTuber Contra Points did a good show about Jordan Peterson recently..

https://youtu.be/4LqZdkkBDas

sorry for mobile link weirdness. someone recommended her on a different thread about a week ago and from the videos I've see I find her to be really clear, really smart, and fucking hilarious.

how's life, Friday, 18 May 2018 10:02 (five years ago) link

My first long exposure to Peterson's, ah, thought:

Mr. Peterson illustrates his arguments with copious references to ancient myths — bringing up stories of witches, biblical allegories and ancient traditions. I ask why these old stories should guide us today.

“It makes sense that a witch lives in a swamp. Yeah,” he says. “Why?”

It’s a hard one.

“Right. That’s right. You don’t know. It’s because those things hang together at a very deep level. Right. Yeah. And it makes sense that an old king lives in a desiccated tower.”

But witches don’t exist, and they don’t live in swamps, I say.

“Yeah, they do. They do exist. They just don’t exist the way you think they exist. They certainly exist. You may say well dragons don’t exist. It’s, like, yes they do — the category predator and the category dragon are the same category. It absolutely exists. It’s a superordinate category. It exists absolutely more than anything else. In fact, it really exists. What exists is not obvious. You say, ‘Well, there’s no such thing as witches.’ Yeah, I know what you mean, but that isn’t what you think when you go see a movie about them. You can’t help but fall into these categories. There’s no escape from them.”

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link

i kind of love it when handsome people are blessed with a ridiculous voice

marcos, Friday, 18 May 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link

Peterson working on his next magnum opus

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S04E19/1034699.jpg?b64lines=SSBBTSBOT1QKIEEgQ1JBQ0tQT1Qu

THERE IS NO PHIL D. THERE IS ONLY LIZ (Phil D.), Friday, 18 May 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link

lmao Jordan Peterson has never felt oppression in his life

frogbs, Friday, 18 May 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link

i kind of love it when handsome people are blessed with a ridiculous voice

yeah, and jordan peterson too

He always wears a suit. “I am a very serious person,” he often says.

You can almost hear Bowles wanting to add a "NARRATOR VOICE" joke here.

THERE IS NO PHIL D. THERE IS ONLY LIZ (Phil D.), Friday, 18 May 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

Narrator: "he is not a very serious person"

Neil S, Friday, 18 May 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

never thought i'd be nostalgic for the relatively harmless mental illness of dave sim but here we are i guess

Mr. Peterson stresses the importance of cleanliness, but honestly his office is a mess.

lol this asshole

never thought i'd be nostalgic for the relatively harmless mental illness of dave sim but here we are i guess

Eh, harmless only in that he's a lone nut who in the end only hurts himself, but you better believe that if he had his breakdown in 2018 there'd be an entire sub-culture there to enable him. And it'd be closer to incel shit than even Peterson.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 18 May 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

holy shit @ that incel part, I totally get why this dude is popular among dumbasses now

frogbs, Friday, 18 May 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

like seriously is his whole shtick "hierarchies are necessary to society, except when it comes to women, who should be forced to marry undesirable men in order to protect their fragile male egos"

frogbs, Friday, 18 May 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

But aside from interventions that would redistribute sex, Mr. Peterson is staunchly against what he calls “equality of outcomes,” or efforts to equalize society. He usually calls them pathological or evil.

They misspelled "ekwoahlity of oatcomes"

how's life, Friday, 18 May 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link

It is hard not to laugh that Canadians speaking, true.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 18 May 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link

JBP to his art dealer: "thanks I hate it"

Simon H., Friday, 18 May 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link

I've been extrapolating what the "rules" are according to dumb things I've read and assumed they were trite "have a firm handshake" garbage and, now that I've looked at the list on wikipedia... it's actually that dumb

he really ran out of steam halfway through

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link

Oh come on, you've heard him say it.

xxp

how's life, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:03 (five years ago) link

somehow he neglected "wash your ass" in his twelve rules, which I feel is essential

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link

The Muppets has gotten weird pic.twitter.com/fFLTQxD0ei

— PeterNorway (@classiclib3ral) March 30, 2018

lmao

frogbs, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

the most offensive thing about the new jordan peterson piece is comparing him to a cat. rude to cats imo

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link

apparently rule #12 is literally "pet a cat you see on the street"

my guess is that JP has a bunch of scratches on his arms

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link

can we amend it to 'pet a cat you see in the zoo' and hope it starts thinning the herd of jbp stans a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PESYQ6TGwhQ

omar little, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

this is good but i hate that the claim about gender pronouns continues to be repeated without question. it is easily his first lie. https://t.co/JXUo0EeekW

— vicky mochama (@vmochama) May 18, 2018

Simon H., Friday, 18 May 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link

somehow he neglected "wash your ass" in his twelve rules, which I feel is essential

what you need to understand is that throughout all human history, ritual, and myth, the asshole represents chaos while the prick represents order, no soap and washcloth can change that fundamental truth and i will not be silenced

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link

pls link me to yr patreon, i'd like to sign up for a 45-minute personal counselling session on this topic

what you need to understand is that throughout all human history, ritual, and myth, the asshole represents chaos while the prick represents order, no soap and washcloth can change that fundamental truth and i will not be silenced

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, May 18, 2018 11:44 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so if the prick is lawful evil and the asshole is chaotic evil what's neutarl

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

there is no neutral in Peterson's worldview, everything is binary

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

the taint is neutral, obv

Holy crap. I have never heard Jordan Peterson speak. I really thought that was some trippy Kermit the Frog for teaching children how to be good.

Yerac, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

what you need to understand is that throughout all human history, ritual, and myth, the asshole represents chaos while the prick represents order, no soap and washcloth can change that fundamental truth and i will not be silenced

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, May 18, 2018 11:44 AM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you are dave sim and I claim my $5 CDN

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link


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