Rolling 2018: Where Every Day is Rusev Day

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ngl i have watched that finish several times, giggling like a child

someone set a montage of all of their low blows to the jackass theme song which is *hand kiss*

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link

I've just got the WWE network! It's been awhile since I've properly been watching the wrestling but my god it's good to be back. I can't wait to get into NXT, not sure I'm going out for the next month!

beingcutesince1980 (captain rosie), Sunday, 13 May 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link

Enjoy it! I need to catch up on NXT myself and get my mojo back.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Monday, 14 May 2018 09:26 (five years ago) link

nah rawley's been on the main roster for a while now

challops trap house (Will M.), Monday, 14 May 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link

Ba-dum tish.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Monday, 14 May 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link

but in all seriousness nxt has really been nailing it lately, not quite to the heights of 2015 (zayn, neville, owens etc) but much better than the weird low period it had after that (balor/joe/nakamura/roode era just didn't work for me (altho that was the best time for the tag belts!))... the recent call-ups made a lot of room for new faces, a lot of whom are developmental wrestlers, with great skills and gimmicks. apparently kassius ohno is in a kind of player-coach role in developmental which is pretty awesome. the women's division is starting to really shine in the post-asuka dominance era now, with a bunch of Mae Young Classic folks getting tv time and storylines. geez what a fun show. i'm a week behind, time to go home and fix that!

challops trap house (Will M.), Monday, 14 May 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

I agree about the NXT Title era the last few years - I missed out on the Neville era as I don't have Sky and didn't have the Network then.

I got the impression that was meant as a rehearsal spot for the main roster, and it was accordingly dull compared to everything else they've been doing. Balor is great but he did not shine in that position; ditto Nakamura. Roode is just a guy, and same for McIntyre.

The turning point for me was Gargano/Almas; with one match they elevated the title to the level where it should've always been. Now that we've shuffled Black and others to the top of the card, I hope the bookers know what to do.

Anyway, when my main complaint about the show is 'well the NXT Title match was kinda boring' that says a lot about the rest.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 07:32 (five years ago) link

Everything from around May 2014 (starting w/ the first TakeOver) through the next year is some of the best wrestling programming I have ever, ever seen - maybe my favourite ever, period. Can't recommend that little window highly enough. Even when it's bad (lol, Bull Dempsey/Baron Corbin) it's still kinda great?

challops trap house (Will M.), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link

oh and everything that charlotte/sasha/bayley/becky were doing on that run was just astounding too. sasha vs becky for the championship was one of the greatest matches i've ever seen, followed by three absolute classics w/ sasha and bayley (incl. a 30m ironwoman match). don't sleep on the becky match tho, it is a complete star-making moment. the dates i mentioned plus a little bit further gets you thru that bit too!

challops trap house (Will M.), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link

Agreed. All of that stuff is what kept me engaged. I still weep for Bayley and how much they botched her move up.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

I think the problem with bayley is the same problem with cena and reigns, the one dimensional should be big face in he olde Vince times but finds it hard to process the initial character problem. Hogan never grew, it just took till 91-93 to wear thin. Bayley was a really good bayley a couple years ago... and then what? I feel like this company would do well from a lecture from people who write sequels.

plums (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

i mean there's also the problem that she was never a great talker. it was totally endearing and WORKED at full sail because the crowd loved her and she fit into a room of that size (as well as a tv show so slickly produced and edited) but when it's live and either on a TitanTron(TM) or in the middle of a stadium with a mic it just maybe doesn't play? her character also virtually requires her to be the centre of attention for it to work on the big stage, which just isn't how it's gonna work on the big shows (i still think a move to smackdown would do her massive favours, tho). when she's just 1 of ~15 talented women on the roster all getting equal time, she just seems kinda... dumb? it really bums me out that she isn't "working" but afaik she is still pretty young, plenty of time for her to get her shot!

i had similar problems with the way sami was used during his callup (despite a big opportunity starting against cena in his first main roster match! when he dislocated his shoulder during his entrance!) and tbh him as a heel, while entertaining, is like completely contrary to everything that made his nxt run perfect. he's way too good to not end up being seriously featured at some point tho. i really think he's the most talented and untapped guy in the wwe now.

challops trap house (Will M.), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link

Bayley needs a heel turn.

billstevejim, Monday, 21 May 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

was the zayn/lashley segment as bad as the one-sentence recap i read made it sound? until i read more i am in absolute denial but it sounds like on the level of never watching this shit again (and sami is my favourite which makes it hurt even more)

challops trap house (Will M.), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link

ugh i just saw pictures, it's that damn bad

challops trap house (Will M.), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 13:31 (five years ago) link

it was awful

maura, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link

Is there backstory involving Bobby Lashley that I'm supposed to be aware of? They just keep throwing him into main events - usually teaming with Braun as if they are equally main-event worthy, but I know literally zero things about him.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

He was at or near main event level in WWE 10-12 years ago, his most famous match being the Trump vs. Vince hair vs. hair match at WrestleMania 23 where Lashley wrestled on behalf of Trump against Umaga.

JRN, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link

Ooh I didn't realize that was him. It seemed like he was abruptly reintroduced during shake-up and they don't give him much time during promos to build up his character. But that is helpful context for sure.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

He was also the winner of the worst ppv of the modern era, ECW December to Dismember 2006

plums (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

Ah here, December to Dismember was literally engineered to fail so it doesn't really count.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 07:44 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

uh i think official kayfabe holds that @mountain_goats was the final straw for bayley’s heel turn

— Constable Cornbread (@korbermite) June 26, 2018

maura, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

The G1 hasn't come close to the quality of the last few years, but Ibushi-Ishii is must-see. Naito-Omega and Ishii-Goto are right up there.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 07:54 (five years ago) link

I think there have been a lot of "fun things" going on during and around the G1, but the matches have been varied. Some of them have been exciting to watch (Omega vs. Ishii, Ibushi vs. SANADA, Okada vs. EVIL, to name a few I really enjoyed), but it hasn't been as solid as previous years.

I've had a bit more fun watching the tag match-ups outside of the actual tournament than watching some of the official matches.

hourspass, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link

I've been too busy to watch any of the G1 so I'm just gonna make time for the Yano matches before this weekend's final shows. When is the first Sumo Hall show, Friday?

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

Oh wait it's Budokan not Sumo Hall. Friday it is.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link

yes please!

Kenny Omega -VS- Pentagon

September 1st #ALLin pic.twitter.com/3ej5rn659z

— All In (@ALL_IN_2018) August 12, 2018

where can i watch this??

Mordy, Sunday, 12 August 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

The G1 definitely nailed the landing. The overall quality still wasn't as good as past years but the best stuff was some of the best pro wrestling you'll ever see.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 13 August 2018 11:46 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Mordy, I don't know if you're still trying to find the match, but NJPW World has All In available on their streaming service.

hourspass, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 08:57 (five years ago) link

thx!

Mordy, Friday, 14 September 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link

going to the njpw show in long beach on sunday - where every man, woman and child owns a bullet club tshirt. the last one was excellent so I'm pretty pumped. in spite of the fact that the line to get in, food, drink and bathroom situation is fucking abysmal

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link

How was it? So far I've only watched Scurll vs Ospreay from that show, I have a lot of catching up to do. I haven't watched anything from All In yet. KOPW is around the corner but I'm not really feeling it.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 12:43 (five years ago) link

How were the lines this time? 'Cause the place looked about a third empty for the first half of the show.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 14:12 (five years ago) link

Had a great time and great seats. The opener with Liger was great, everyone seemed like they were really enjoying themselves. Bucks match wasn't nearly as good as the last one (but thats kind of unfair) but the back injury plot was kinda stupid, imo. I guess they needed an excuse for the Bucks to lose. I didn't take detailed notes or anything but the show was definitely less crowded than the last, filled in more as it went on. there were dedicated beer vendors for the first time which made life 100% better unless you wanted to eat food. then you were fucked either way bc there were only two kiosks for the whole venue.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link

Did not expect that news on Raw. Damn.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 00:18 (five years ago) link

Huge bummer, rooting for him

It's obviously trivial in the scheme of things but he'll finally be the mega-over top babyface he was meant to be if he makes it back after this

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 09:08 (five years ago) link

Brutal. Hope he Superman punches leukemia back into remission.

I'm not sure how I feel about the Ambrose heel turn happening on the same night.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

i feel like if it had been drawn out for weeks of “brotherhood above all” the leadup to the turn would have seemed too over the top

i liked this former wwe writer’s spin on it (thread). grief does crazy things to people

See, even that, I think, can be explained. I don't think Dean (the character) planned this. I think they won, because that's what Dean does. And then he turned.. and he saw Seth smiling.. and in that one second... that one moment after Roman ripped open his soul... and...

— Tom Casiello (@tommiecas) October 23, 2018

maura, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

That's how I rationalize it too, the turn had been building for weeks and Ambrose (the character) is unstable enough as it is. When Reigns made his announcement, something inside him snapped. He still needed to win the tag title to prove to himself that he could.

There are plenty of storyline ways to explain it, but every one of them involve using someone's life-threatening cancer diagnosis to manipulate the fans and help get a wrestling angle over. If there was ever a week to send people home happy, it was this one. Couldn't the same storyline goal have been achieved by doing the turn next week?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 06:54 (five years ago) link

i mean roman probably signed off on this turn because it’s “good for business”

maura, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 10:11 (five years ago) link

I'm sure they asked him and he said he was ok with it, but it's still tasteless.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 25 October 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link


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