The Jordan Peterson Thread

all the bad people on ilx who must be trolled

got ya postmodern irony RIGHT HERE

Christ almighty at that interview, lol:

I noted that while we still read the canonical thinkers who presumed to address the big questions, nobody attempted to write in such a mode anymore. “People told me that the time for the great theories in psychology is over,” he said. “I said, ‘It might be over for you, but it’s not over for me.’ ”

Peterson made plain that he was speaking out against the enforced adoption of an unscientific political terminology, and not to denigrate the transgendered. Yet it was easy to call it an act of hate and harassment directed at a vulnerable minority, and many did.

Yes, seeing as there was no 'enforced adoption', it was quite easy to call it something else.

the police literally forced him to recognize somebody else's preferred mode of address rather than the absolutely correct scientific terminology handed down at the creation of time

language isn't science except when it is science when all of a sudden it's an absolutely transparent reference to unshakeable prelinguistic taxonomy

it's not just that he's wicked, or that he's a wicked moron, it's that he's a wicked moron i've already spent 5 minutes thinking about this morning because i couldn't be arsed to do something else

Bingo #2

all the bad people on ilx who must be trolled

― hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 07:42 (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes

what if there was a peaceful noncontroptimist need to dismantle masculinity just because it's boring and loud or something but with peace and love peace and love

ive been at it years tbrrwu

i'd call it more "exasperated eyerolling" than actual trolling

it's not hard to get absurd people to say absurd things

nb: i am an absurd person

anyway, despite my being given to hyperbolic and extremist overstatement, i don't think even i would go so far as saying that masculinity should be eradicated, or that it has no virtues. i'm not a big fan of real or simulated violence, which seems to comprise a large chunk of "masculinity", but there are absolutely positive benefits to masculinity. grilling, for instance. grilling is cool.

removing stubborn jar lids

killing insects

reaching things on high shelves

an interesting one that one because it's actually biologically rooted, as opposed to most stuff classified as "masculine" which is just gender-as-social-construct shit

i don't get people who can't tell the difference. have these motherfuckers never seen a yogurt commercial?

can't wait til people stop using the world wide web because it was created by it dweebs

they got porn onto it

the most heroic dweebs what ever dweebed

but there are absolutely positive benefits to masculinity. grilling, for instance. grilling is cool.

Grilling is cool. And also dicks. Dicks are pretty cool, too. The big downside of lobsters is their lack of dicks.

want to shout out map for that great list of works to read earlier in the thread

is that US grilling or UK grilling? cos not sure cheese on toast is alpha masculine

And also dicks. Dicks are pretty cool, too

i'm not trying to do a "gotcha!" thing, just trying to gently correct, but dicks aren't essentially masculine

i agree they can be pretty cool

but then i guess none of the listed good traits of masculinity here are essentially masculine so nm

jp reads his own writing, realizes how badly his thatcher paraphrase went, cries
https://www.facebook.com/realchillerwhale/videos/10155170272417257

Is he in a goddamn bathrobe

He was on Start the Week on Monday. Steeling myself to listen. Lawrence Wright was also on; hoping he might provide some resistance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b2gsct

A pretty good book review/excoriation from a conservative Catholic professor:

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/book-review-jordan-petersons-12-rules-for-life-78542

so this dude's book is like The Secret for people who claim everything they do is governed by "logic," right?

And who grab terminology from Heidegger

ideotv did a podcast on 12 rules
http://www.idontevenownatelevision.com/2018/05/13/106-12-rules-for-life-an-antidote-to-chaos/

A pretty good book review/excoriation from a conservative Catholic professor:

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/book-review-jordan-petersons-12-rules-for-life-78542

― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:13 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is beautiful

LOL he's on cheesy Channel 5 discussion show The Wright Stuff this morning - sometime home to such intellectual heavyweights as Christopher Biggins, Hardeep Singh Kohli and Anne Diamond. Prof. Peterson is occupying the guest's chair, more commonly reserved for Made In Chelsea stars plugging exercise books or dimwitted Aussie soap actors touting for work in the UK. Hard for the Professor to add much gravitas to a show when he has to sit alongside comedy Tory MP, Michael Fabricant.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0y_xnFVCN/

Oh jesus.

why is he dressed like a steampunk guy who forgot his goggles

When in Rome...

just when i was confident i couldn’t think less of either peterson or mumford and sons...

This guy’s a ducking moron. Vice interview made it clear he’s propped himself up as some kind of disenfranchised activist - meanwhile he pulls 30 K a month. He’s making arguments out of thin air & it’s probably cuz his wallets shining. Just another deepak chopra

Sorry deep pockets chopra.

meanwhile he pulls 30 K a month

Think it's double this by now?

'terrible people having their photo taken with Jordan Peterson' could almost be its own thread

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdbmYCPV4AARLJG.jpg

kermit meets muppets: in which we are shown weirdos & jordan peterson

I accidentally watched one of this guy's youtube videos y/day when I followed a link called sth like "how to stop procrastinating" (hah)

the short version is that I did not learn how to stop procrastinating and he had some (prob deservedly) harsh words for chronic procrastinators esp when they turn into middle-aged fuckups with no self-control and no honesty with themselves about the extent of their fucking up (hi there, it me etc) so I felt bad about myself and then I realised that I was watching a Jordan Peterson video and that yes, it was that Jordan Peterson

so now I am p. excited to get my revenge by listening to an hour-long podcast about what a blowhard he is as some extra sweet, sweet procrastination. thanks!

YouTuber Contra Points did a good show about Jordan Peterson recently..

https://youtu.be/4LqZdkkBDas

sorry for mobile link weirdness. someone recommended her on a different thread about a week ago and from the videos I've see I find her to be really clear, really smart, and fucking hilarious.

My first long exposure to Peterson's, ah, thought:

Mr. Peterson illustrates his arguments with copious references to ancient myths — bringing up stories of witches, biblical allegories and ancient traditions. I ask why these old stories should guide us today.

“It makes sense that a witch lives in a swamp. Yeah,” he says. “Why?”

It’s a hard one.

“Right. That’s right. You don’t know. It’s because those things hang together at a very deep level. Right. Yeah. And it makes sense that an old king lives in a desiccated tower.”

But witches don’t exist, and they don’t live in swamps, I say.

“Yeah, they do. They do exist. They just don’t exist the way you think they exist. They certainly exist. You may say well dragons don’t exist. It’s, like, yes they do — the category predator and the category dragon are the same category. It absolutely exists. It’s a superordinate category. It exists absolutely more than anything else. In fact, it really exists. What exists is not obvious. You say, ‘Well, there’s no such thing as witches.’ Yeah, I know what you mean, but that isn’t what you think when you go see a movie about them. You can’t help but fall into these categories. There’s no escape from them.”

i kind of love it when handsome people are blessed with a ridiculous voice

Peterson working on his next magnum opus

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S04E19/1034699.jpg?b64lines=SSBBTSBOT1QKIEEgQ1JBQ0tQT1Qu

lmao Jordan Peterson has never felt oppression in his life

i kind of love it when handsome people are blessed with a ridiculous voice

yeah, and jordan peterson too

He always wears a suit. “I am a very serious person,” he often says.

You can almost hear Bowles wanting to add a "NARRATOR VOICE" joke here.